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A18
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« on: May 24, 2005, 03:56:21 PM »

Populism is a dead ideology that no one I've ever met supports.
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A18
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E: 9.23, S: -6.35

« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2005, 01:01:57 PM »

Hah, I see thefactor is still living in his dream world.

The GOP is doing nothing but moving right economically, and staying in place socially.

They have not moved "left" on any issue except spending, and that is a short term phenomenon.
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A18
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E: 9.23, S: -6.35

« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2005, 02:13:51 PM »

Not relative to the Democrats, but okay, I see your point. They have gone spending crazy in the short term.
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A18
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E: 9.23, S: -6.35

« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2005, 08:29:41 PM »

Bush is still going around the country pushing for privatization, and plenty of senators support the idea. In the long term, it will pass, and your assertion that we'll drop it is baseless, much like this joke about us eroding civil liberties by temporarily expanding search and seizure powers.
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A18
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E: 9.23, S: -6.35

« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2005, 08:25:49 PM »

Uh, no, more like 2007 or 2009.

Explain to me how the Republicans could have passed it long ago when you need 60 votes to achieve cloture, and they haven't had 60 votes since the 1920s, if then? They couldn't, and you have no clue at all what you're talking about.

Terrorism is not a civil liberty. Prosecuting libel is not a dictatorial tactic. Sorry, your dictators are Lincoln, Wilson, and FDR.
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A18
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E: 9.23, S: -6.35

« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2005, 08:42:46 PM »

No, that would be after the midterm elections in which the GOP can get enough seats and momentum to pass this thing.

This is what I get for talking to a ing idiot who thinks he knows everything. Maybe you should go get a clue before you act like an arrogant prick. Reid rallied the Democrats behind him, saying they'll filibuster any change to Social Security that includes private accounts.

Yeah. Checking library records is far more dictatorial than censoring the press, throwing thousands of Americans in internment camps, suspending the writ of habeas corpus unconstitutionally, and placing states under martial law. Oh, and burning cities to the ground in a place you insist never left the union.

In 10 years, the war is over.
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A18
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Posts: 23,794
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E: 9.23, S: -6.35

« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2005, 09:01:53 PM »

I said 2007 or 2009, as in the GOP will win one or the other.

It's hilarious, though, to get your definition of fascism. I'll keep that in mind the next time you say Bush is becoming a dictator, and go ahead and skip over it.

This is EXACTLY the kind of thing I'm talking about. You don't even know what a filibuster is. You need 60 votes for cloture. The GOP has 55 senators, a few of which are RINOs. Reid has 44 senators, which means there are only 56 votes left in the Senate. No cloture, no up or down vote, no Social Security reform.

The reason the GOP can get other things done is because the Democrats haven't filibustered everything. If the parties did that, nothing would have passed since, what, the 60s?
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A18
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E: 9.23, S: -6.35

« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2005, 10:41:35 PM »

Just weeks ago a poll showed GOP congressmen have higher approval ratings than the Democrats.

Polls have shown support, opposition, and neutrality towards a rule change regarding the filibuster.

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Wrong, pay attention to the news, or don't talk about. The Democrats wrote it off right away, and rallied against it. Reid says he has 45 votes (Jeffords is in on it) against any change to Social Security that includes person accounts.
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A18
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E: 9.23, S: -6.35

« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2005, 10:48:44 PM »

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2005/Judicial%20Nominations--May%2014.htm

57% of Americans say that "Senate rules should be changed so that a vote must be taken on every person the President nominates to become a judge."
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A18
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E: 9.23, S: -6.35

« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2005, 10:51:33 PM »

Well, he also asked, "If Rules are Changed, Should Democrats Shut Down Senate?"

So it would be kind of weird for someone to think that...
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