Could the U.S. purchase the northern Mexico states?
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
March 28, 2024, 09:22:57 AM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  General Politics
  U.S. General Discussion (Moderators: The Dowager Mod, Chancellor Tanterterg)
  Could the U.S. purchase the northern Mexico states?
« previous next »
Pages: 1 2 [3]
Poll
Question: Could the U.S. purchase the northern Mexico states?
#1
Yes
 
#2
No
 
#3
Maybe
 
Show Pie Chart
Partisan results

Total Voters: 49

Author Topic: Could the U.S. purchase the northern Mexico states?  (Read 4318 times)
○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└
jfern
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 53,611


Political Matrix
E: -7.38, S: -8.36

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #50 on: January 22, 2016, 04:40:35 AM »

The border states are the richest states besides Mexico city and the Yucatan peninsula.
Logged
Middle-aged Europe
Old Europe
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 17,178
Ukraine


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #51 on: January 22, 2016, 04:59:47 AM »

Since Mexico is organized as a federation I'm pretty sure that it would be unconstitutional for the Mexican federal government to sell states.
Logged
Zioneer
PioneerProgress
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 7,451
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #52 on: January 22, 2016, 11:15:49 AM »

Since Mexico is organized as a federation I'm pretty sure that it would be unconstitutional for the Mexican federal government to sell states.

But would it be unconstitutional for the individual states to have an independence or annexation vote, and then for Mexico to be financially compensated by the US afterwards?
Logged
Virginiá
Virginia
Administratrix
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 18,856
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.97, S: -5.91

WWW Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #53 on: January 22, 2016, 12:53:01 PM »

But would it be unconstitutional for the individual states to have an independence or annexation vote, and then for Mexico to be financially compensated by the US afterwards?

I'm willing to bet that if Mexico legitimately wanted to do this and it was unconstitutional, they would just get an amendment passed to make it constitutional. It's not likely a situation would arise without a significant amount of support.

But for the record, the idea itself is ridiculous.
Logged
ag
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 12,828


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #54 on: January 22, 2016, 04:23:28 PM »

Since Mexico is organized as a federation I'm pretty sure that it would be unconstitutional for the Mexican federal government to sell states.

But would it be unconstitutional for the individual states to have an independence or annexation vote, and then for Mexico to be financially compensated by the US afterwards?

Aside from this, of course, being entirely unconstitutional (Article 2 of the Constitution "The Mexican Nation is one and indivisible"), there is simply no chance in hell such an initiative could win in any democratic vote, be that legislative or popular - unless, of course, it is preceded by a major population removal beforehand. Anybody who thinks otherwise highly underestimates the degree of nationalism south of the border.

Let us be very clear: the necessary pre-condition for any Mexican government to consider something like that is the US military first occupying Mexico City by force.
Logged
ag
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 12,828


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #55 on: January 22, 2016, 04:30:46 PM »

But would it be unconstitutional for the individual states to have an independence or annexation vote, and then for Mexico to be financially compensated by the US afterwards?

I'm willing to bet that if Mexico legitimately wanted to do this and it was unconstitutional, they would just get an amendment passed to make it constitutional. It's not likely a situation would arise without a significant amount of support.

But for the record, the idea itself is ridiculous.

Yeah, ammending the consitution is not a problem: it is done every year. The problem is the content of the ammendment: no Mexican political force can simultaneously advocate such an ammendment and have a chance to have any of its members elected a dogcatcher anywhere in the country.
Logged
TheDeadFlagBlues
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,990
Canada
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #56 on: January 22, 2016, 05:52:20 PM »

Why would the U.S. want to purchase the most culturally bland part of Mexico? Trust me guys, you do not want Monterrey or Chihuahua, neither of these cities have any charm that extends beyond the beauty of the surrounding landscape. Then there's the case of Ciudad Juarez and Tijuana, which would certainly be net negatives to America.

Look, if you're interested in conquering Mexico, at least go after the regions that have value. Plant the American flag on the top of the Pyramid of the Moon or Chapultepec, don't plant it on the top of a maquiladora. Also: do you really want to take in the parts of Mexico where the worst variant of folkloric Mexican music is popular? Unless you're into polka, I'd strongly advise you to be opposed to forcibly annexing anything north of Saltillo.
Logged
Filuwaúrdjan
Realpolitik
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 67,609
United Kingdom


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #57 on: January 22, 2016, 06:03:29 PM »

Then there's the case of Ciudad Juarez and Tijuana, which would certainly be net negatives to America.

Yes, that's rather like wanting desperately to annex a toxic waste dump next to your house isn't it.
Logged
Pages: 1 2 [3]  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.036 seconds with 14 queries.