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« on: January 18, 2016, 07:37:22 PM »

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-01-19/republican-operatives-are-trying-to-help-bernie-sanders
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It's clear which candidate the Republicans are more afraid of facing, and it's not the crazy old man from Vermont who wants to raise everyone's taxes and double the size of the budget.
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2016, 07:38:10 PM »

Or maybe they're trying to hurt him knowing that their "support" is the best way to hurt him.
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2016, 07:40:28 PM »

We did the same thing supporting Obams in the primaries.
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2016, 08:05:16 PM »

We did the same thing supporting Obams in the primaries.
Talk about a backfire Tongue.
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2016, 08:07:06 PM »

We did the same thing supporting Obams in the primaries.
I remember there being an 'operation chaos' movement late in the primaries, getting people to vote for Clinton to drag out the race.
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2016, 08:45:21 PM »

If Trump is the Republican nominee, I'm fairly certain that he'll lose no matter who the Democrats nominate.
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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2016, 09:01:58 PM »

Sanders is much easier to beat.
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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2016, 09:21:59 PM »


Saunders has a better approval rating then Clinton among General Election Voters (see link http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trump-is-really-unpopular-with-general-election-voters/, their is a table with Dem.  approval ratings). I suspect the GOP wants the Dem. Primaries to last a couple months, even if Clinton wins she will have spent more of her campaign fund.

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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2016, 09:24:13 PM »


Saunders has a better approval rating then Clinton among General Election Voters (see link http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trump-is-really-unpopular-with-general-election-voters/, their is a table with Dem.  approval ratings). I suspect the GOP wants the Dem. Primaries to last a couple months, even if Clinton wins she will have spent more of her campaign fund.



Don't worry about Invisible Obama. He might be the biggest Hillary hack on this entire subforum.
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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2016, 09:25:11 PM »


Saunders has a better approval rating then Clinton among General Election Voters (see link http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trump-is-really-unpopular-with-general-election-voters/, their is a table with Dem.  approval ratings). I suspect the GOP wants the Dem. Primaries to last a couple months, even if Clinton wins she will have spent more of her campaign fund.



You can't tell Sanders would be lucky to get 100 EV votes by watching him and the fact he's from VT? Other than Clinton presidents in this era come from big states. Plus his idiotic attacks.
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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2016, 09:32:17 PM »


Saunders has a better approval rating then Clinton among General Election Voters (see link http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trump-is-really-unpopular-with-general-election-voters/, their is a table with Dem.  approval ratings). I suspect the GOP wants the Dem. Primaries to last a couple months, even if Clinton wins she will have spent more of her campaign fund.



Approval ratings at this stage mean almost nothing, though. Sanders could easily be driven into the ground if he won the nomination. But, I agree that Republicans are trying to drag the primary more than anything else.
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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2016, 09:33:09 PM »


Saunders has a better approval rating then Clinton among General Election Voters (see link http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trump-is-really-unpopular-with-general-election-voters/, their is a table with Dem.  approval ratings). I suspect the GOP wants the Dem. Primaries to last a couple months, even if Clinton wins she will have spent more of her campaign fund.



Approval ratings at this stage mean almost nothing, though. Sanders could easily be driven into the ground if he won the nomination. But, I agree that Republicans are trying to drag the primary more than anything else.
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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2016, 09:56:28 PM »


Saunders has a better approval rating then Clinton among General Election Voters (see link http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trump-is-really-unpopular-with-general-election-voters/, their is a table with Dem.  approval ratings). I suspect the GOP wants the Dem. Primaries to last a couple months, even if Clinton wins she will have spent more of her campaign fund.



Approval ratings at this stage mean almost nothing, though. Sanders could easily be driven into the ground if he won the nomination. But, I agree that Republicans are trying to drag the primary more than anything else.

The only approval ratings for Bernie are 83-13, the highest approvals of any Senator.

http://morningconsult.com/2015/11/bernie-sanders-is-the-most-popular-senator-in-america/
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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2016, 09:57:43 PM »


Saunders has a better approval rating then Clinton among General Election Voters (see link http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trump-is-really-unpopular-with-general-election-voters/, their is a table with Dem.  approval ratings). I suspect the GOP wants the Dem. Primaries to last a couple months, even if Clinton wins she will have spent more of her campaign fund.



Approval ratings at this stage mean almost nothing, though. Sanders could easily be driven into the ground if he won the nomination. But, I agree that Republicans are trying to drag the primary more than anything else.

The only approval ratings for Bernie are 83-13, the highest approvals of any Senator.

http://morningconsult.com/2015/11/bernie-sanders-is-the-most-popular-senator-in-america/

Sounds like he has 3 EV from VT in the bag.
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« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2016, 09:59:02 PM »

I'm not arguing that the RNC doesn't think Sanders is the weaker opponent (they probably do), but it's also advantageous for them to cast Clinton as dishonest.  It's her single greatest electoral liability, and this is an attention-grabbing way for them to spotlight it.  Even if they think Sanders is equally strong (again, probably not), this is reasonable for them to do if they expect Clinton to be the nominee (which they do).
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« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2016, 10:04:53 PM »


Saunders has a better approval rating then Clinton among General Election Voters (see link http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trump-is-really-unpopular-with-general-election-voters/, their is a table with Dem.  approval ratings). I suspect the GOP wants the Dem. Primaries to last a couple months, even if Clinton wins she will have spent more of her campaign fund.



Approval ratings at this stage mean almost nothing, though. Sanders could easily be driven into the ground if he won the nomination. But, I agree that Republicans are trying to drag the primary more than anything else.

The only approval ratings for Bernie are 83-13, the highest approvals of any Senator.

http://morningconsult.com/2015/11/bernie-sanders-is-the-most-popular-senator-in-america/

Not surprising within his own home state. I won't argue that his approval will always be high in Vermont, because he's been elected statewide for 25 years. In general election campaign for president, there is no way he would sport an approval like that nationwide or in key swing states.
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« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2016, 10:29:06 PM »

I'm not arguing that the RNC doesn't think Sanders is the weaker opponent (they probably do), but it's also advantageous for them to cast Clinton as dishonest.  It's her single greatest electoral liability, and this is an attention-grabbing way for them to spotlight it.  Even if they think Sanders is equally strong (again, probably not), this is reasonable for them to do if they expect Clinton to be the nominee (which they do).

Yup. Nice summary of what's going on...
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« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2016, 10:30:22 PM »

Be careful what you wish for...
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« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2016, 10:37:56 PM »


Saunders has a better approval rating then Clinton among General Election Voters (see link http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trump-is-really-unpopular-with-general-election-voters/, their is a table with Dem.  approval ratings). I suspect the GOP wants the Dem. Primaries to last a couple months, even if Clinton wins she will have spent more of her campaign fund.


Regardless his policy of raising middle class taxes isn't electable
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« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2016, 10:39:51 PM »


Saunders has a better approval rating then Clinton among General Election Voters (see link http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trump-is-really-unpopular-with-general-election-voters/, their is a table with Dem.  approval ratings). I suspect the GOP wants the Dem. Primaries to last a couple months, even if Clinton wins she will have spent more of her campaign fund.


Regardless his policy of raising middle class taxes isn't electable

If only his party considered that when they believe polls now will reflect the election.
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« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2016, 10:40:41 PM »


Saunders has a better approval rating then Clinton among General Election Voters (see link http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trump-is-really-unpopular-with-general-election-voters/, their is a table with Dem.  approval ratings). I suspect the GOP wants the Dem. Primaries to last a couple months, even if Clinton wins she will have spent more of her campaign fund.



Approval ratings at this stage mean almost nothing, though. Sanders could easily be driven into the ground if he won the nomination. But, I agree that Republicans are trying to drag the primary more than anything else.

The only approval ratings for Bernie are 83-13, the highest approvals of any Senator.

http://morningconsult.com/2015/11/bernie-sanders-is-the-most-popular-senator-in-america/

In Vermont. I support Sanders but let's not get too hackish here.
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« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2016, 12:28:34 AM »

I agree that Republicans should be careful what we wish for, but there's a certain amount of historical revisionism going on in this thread. Republicans were encouraged in 2008, after our own nominating process had wrapped up, to cross over and vote for Hillary, because at that time the Republicans saw an Obama nomination as inevitable and wanted to drag it out. Very, very few Repubs crossed over and voted for Obama in the primaries, and when they did so it was of their own accord.
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« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2016, 01:25:35 AM »

Bernie will probably be easier to beat--Hillary has much more appeal to moderates and probably won't lose too many Bernie fans (unless, of course, it's a dirty, drawn-out campaign). The Gop definitely thinks that Bernie will be easier to beat--so that's why they'd rather face them.

But I do agree with the analysis that this is mostly to extend the race, and another chance to bash Hillary.

Let me just say, though, that the Republican Party literally sending out emails backing Bernie Sanders is a bit too, uh, on the nose.
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« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2016, 01:36:06 AM »

Remember when Bin Laden "opposed" Bush for the 2004 election with that video he released right before the election? Of course he knew that would help Bush and he didn't want someone who'd have the basic competence to hunt him down. By having the incompetent Bush re-elected, Bin Laden got to live until the next Presidential term, when Obama took him down.
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« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2016, 02:04:27 AM »

Remember when Bin Laden "opposed" Bush for the 2004 election with that video he released right before the election? Of course he knew that would help Bush and he didn't want someone who'd have the basic competence to hunt him down. By having the incompetent Bush re-elected, Bin Laden got to live until the next Presidential term, when Obama took him down.

You're right, if only we would have elected John Kerry we could have gotten Bin Laden sooner. You are so out of touch with reality it's fascinating.
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