Changing ideologies and growing older...

[A18]

I could bore myself to sleep reading one of your posts. Thankfully I usually skip them.

[migrendel]

I confess that I don't read all of yours either, but I find it hard to keep up with your daily 50 post output.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

The election was decided mainly on social issues.

[angus]

 I always hear that on the tv as well, but I can't say I really believe it.

what's the little exercise in pointillism all about?  or is that neoimpressionism.  I confess I get the two styles confused, like dadism and cubism.  One day I'll sit down and learn to discuss amorphous blobs of paint intelligently.

[Redefeatbush04]

The election was decided mainly on social issues.

Anybody know where this image is from. I can't remember.

[angus]

One time at the MFA Boston they did an exhibit called George Seurat:  The Early Years, or something like that.  I went with this Japanese chick I'd been seeing at the time.  If you look very very closely at the fat woman's ass in La Grande Jatte you'll see that it was ripped off from that work.

[Gabu]

The election was decided mainly on social issues.

Anybody know where this image is from. I can't remember.

It's from that OK Cupid political test, the one that also had the pictures of various figures.

[opebo]

when you get that first 75 thousand dollar a year job

Only a very tiny minority of people ever have a job like that.

Not true.  Maybe only a tiny minority of people YOU hang out with, but in general, that isn't true.

No, the median income is about $35,000.  A $75,000 per year job is quite unusual.

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Really, don't be stupid.  Its either voting communists (Democrats) or voting for some moderates (Republicans), although some tend to be rather authoritarian.  However, Republicans are the ones that would leave me alone.

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Your representations of the two parties are rather fanciful, and bear little relation to their reality.  In fact of course the Democrats are moderate Center-Rightists, and the Republicans quite extreme.  Be careful, because as a homosexual you are risking a lot voting for Theocracy in return for a few points off the top tax rate.

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Only for the working class.  For the beneficiaries of the system (the owners), life is a hedonistic cruise.[/quote]

[opebo]

Many people grow more and more conservative as they grow older.  It seems the mental disorder of liberalism wanes as you get life experience, knowledge, wisdom, and social skills.  Why is that?  Why is it that almost no one gets the disease at an older age, unless something very drastic happens in their life?

Old people have given up - they're bitter, and have little to live for.  Naturally they resent that anyone else have any fun.  Also, they are weak and cowardly, and fearing death, they become religious. 

There are few things sadder than people in their 20's and 30's toiling at some job, saving for their 'retirement'.  The epitomy of our mad culture.

You belong in a f***ing nuthouse.

Think about it for just a moment.  Why the emotional reaction?  I'm saying that it is madness for people in their 20's and 30's to toil, wasting their precious good years in misery, in order to save for their post-65 years - years that are almost invariably lived in pain and suffering. 

The world of Logans Run is more rational by comparison:
 

[Gabu]

No, the median income is about $35,000.  A $75,000 per year job is quite unusual.

According to CNN's exit poll, 32% of people who voted make $75,000 per year or more.  Even if we assume that nobody who didn't vote makes $75,000 per year or more, that still means that roughly 18% of the population makes $75,000 per year or more.

[opebo]

No, the median income is about $35,000.  A $75,000 per year job is quite unusual.

According to CNN's exit poll, 32% of people who voted make $75,000 per year or more.  Even if we assume that nobody who didn't vote makes $75,000 per year or more, that still means that roughly 18% of the population makes $75,000 per year or more.

Sounds reasonable.  As I said, it is an atypical income.  The median is about $35,000.

[Gabu]

No, the median income is about $35,000.  A $75,000 per year job is quite unusual.

According to CNN's exit poll, 32% of people who voted make $75,000 per year or more.  Even if we assume that nobody who didn't vote makes $75,000 per year or more, that still means that roughly 18% of the population makes $75,000 per year or more.

Sounds reasonable.  As I said, it is an atypical income.  The median is about $35,000.

18% means that a little under 1 in 5 people makes $75,000 per year.  If I had a 1 in 5 chance to win something, that would be one hell of a good set of odds.

[Richard]

No, the median income is about $35,000.  A $75,000 per year job is quite unusual.

Lovely.  That means half the population makes less, and half makes more.  Now account for all the high school kids and students, and you're a whole lot closer to $75,000.

Please don't argue statistics with me.

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Morons that advocate the New Deal are not Center-Rightists.  People that advocate stealing from people to give to the lazy and parasitic people are not Center-Rightists.  Those morons that yell and scream about what a bad thing it is that Saddam was captured isn't Center-Rightists.  Maybe Center-Right for YOU, but then, you have a mental issue.  I really don't know what it is, but I'm sure it will be incredibly hard to pronounce.

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Like you?  How about you help a working class person (like myself) by sending me lots of money as proof of you actually believing the dribble you spew about "the system" and "classes."

[opebo]

No, the median income is about $35,000.  A $75,000 per year job is quite unusual.

According to CNN's exit poll, 32% of people who voted make $75,000 per year or more.  Even if we assume that nobody who didn't vote makes $75,000 per year or more, that still means that roughly 18% of the population makes $75,000 per year or more.

Sounds reasonable.  As I said, it is an atypical income.  The median is about $35,000.

18% means that a little under 1 in 5 people makes $75,000 per year.  If I had a 1 in 5 chance to win something, that would be one hell of a good set of odds.

No it isn't.  You're odds would be 80% of being payed less that.  Hence $75,000 is an unlikely outcome.

[opebo]

No, the median income is about $35,000.  A $75,000 per year job is quite unusual.

Lovely.  That means half the population makes less, and half makes more.  Now account for all the high school kids and students, and you're a whole lot closer to $75,000.

Please don't argue statistics with me.

Why not?  Your vague assertion about students is hardly intimidating.

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Well, so far yes.   

[Richard]

No it isn't.  You're odds would be 80% of being payed less that.  Hence $75,000 is an unlikely outcome.

Please dude, try, just try, to fire an additional neuron once in a while if you can spare it.  Think for a second here.  We have a normal distribution curve.  As people age, they earn more and more.  You're saying my odds would be 80% of being paid less than that.  Correct.  But, I'm 22.  As you age, the odds go up... sharply.  The fact that there is a 1 in 5 chance that covers the ENTIRE CURVE, from young uns to older people just shows you how amazing the United States is.  In Europe, your chances would be 1 in 50 instead.

[opebo]

No it isn't.  You're odds would be 80% of being payed less that.  Hence $75,000 is an unlikely outcome.

As you age, the odds go up... sharply.

Ah, so what you're saying is that a larger percentage of people make this income for a very brief period of their lives - the fabled 'top of their game' or pinnacle of their career.  That hardly seems a recommendation of the United States or the economic system.  And it does not refute my assertion that $75,000 a year jobs are quite unusual, and not at all the norm.

A side note - the owners make ever growing incomes regardless of their age, generational transferrs, whether they do anything or not, etc. 

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

I guess I have become more conservative as I have grown older.  I still consider myself a socialist, but more of a "democratic socialist" rather than someone who wants a revolutionary upheaval of all of our existing social and political structures.  I suppose I have just gradually come to understand the natural desire for having a family and a normal life.  And of course, there are a lot more career opportunities within the Democratic party than in trying to join or start some fringe movement.  

But I hope to God I don't sell out any more than I already have.

[Smash255]

No, the median income is about $35,000.  A $75,000 per year job is quite unusual.

According to CNN's exit poll, 32% of people who voted make $75,000 per year or more.  Even if we assume that nobody who didn't vote makes $75,000 per year or more, that still means that roughly 18% of the population makes $75,000 per year or more.

Was that personal income or household income??

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

The election was decided mainly on social issues.

Anybody know where this image is from. I can't remember.

Okcupid. Economic liberal is down, social liberal is right.

[Beet]

The election was decided mainly on social issues.

Anybody know where this image is from. I can't remember.

It's from that OK Cupid political test, the one that also had the pictures of various figures.

What is the population for this graphic? Is each dot supposed to be a representative voter?

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

The election was decided mainly on social issues.

Anybody know where this image is from. I can't remember.

It's from that OK Cupid political test, the one that also had the pictures of various figures.

What is the population for this graphic? Is each dot supposed to be a representative voter?

Each dot is at least 1 voter.

[Beet]

Ok, but how did they generate it? Exit poll results?

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Ok, but how did they generate it? Exit poll results?

It's a test like the Political Compass test.

[Gabu]

Ok, but how did they generate it? Exit poll results?

It's a test like the Political Compass test.

I think what he's asking is how they knew where every single voter stands on the political compass.