Did Republican troubles in the north start in the 70's?

[Hillary pays minimum wage]

Many states like VT, NH, and ME were already trending in the 70's. Some were close in 1980 too.  In the 80's they went red but so did just about all other states.  Since 1988 we really haven't been competitive except for NH and PA.

[Figueira]

What exactly do you mean by "the north"?

[RINO Tom]

Senator NC Yankee wrote an exhaustively excellent post regarding this in the (tongue-in-cheek) "When did the parties switch" thread.  I direct you there.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Yes, due to Vietnam War. The Solid Dems in North split with Nixon Dixiecrats in South and pushed through the War Powers Act. In opposition to Nixon and escalation of Vietnam.

As the RFK Dems were the ones pushing through the Legislatice Veto.

In addition to that, the Southern Dems were pushed out of party leadership, as cmtee chairs, and power was put back in Speaker during 1976 Reforms. Most of the remaining Dixiecrats like Richard Shelby & Phil Gramms of TX, joined the GOP, after Carter admin, as Brady Bill, passed in 1994, further divided the North from South

[Clark Kent]

New Hampshire was solid Republican in the 1980s. It was one of Reagan's best states both times and Bush Sr.'s second best.

[Orser67]

You could arguably go all the way back to 1928, when Democrats won Rhode Island and Massachusetts despite losing the popular vote by 17 points. Since that time, Republicans have gotten weaker and weaker in the Northeast (compared to the rest of the nation). But if we're going to use a more recent date, in 1968 Humphrey carried much of the Northeast despite losing the election. Republicans were still competitive in the Northeast until the 1990s, but Democrats generally did better in the region than in the rest of the country (except in 1976).

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Woodrow Wilson who was the predecessor of FDR and student of Bryan-Jennings put Karl Marx socialism to good use when they placed the Income tax on Wealthy, to each according to need, Transformed the Democrats to Labor movement, enroads in Philly, NYC

[Kingpoleon]

I'd say it started in 1968 and 1972 under Nixon. Ford, as a person, had a regional appeal to the north. He made it the last time the north(east of the Mississippi, north of the Potomac and Ohio) voted in majority for the Republicans and the South(AR, LA, MO, OK, TX, south of the Ohio and Potomac and east of the Mississippi) voted in majority for the Democrats.

[Hillary pays minimum wage]

New Hampshire was solid Republican in the 1980s. It was one of Reagan's best states both times and Bush Sr.'s second best.

NH is a good point but an exception to other northern states.  By north I mean northeast but MI and IL can apply.

[Orser67]

Ford, as a person, had a regional appeal to the north.

I'd imagine Carter also was probably relatively unappealing for a Democrat, being an evangelical from the Deep South

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Carter also supported nuclear disarmament of USSR, and was the only president we didnt have military combat. To his detriment of the hostages of Iran.
 

[RINO Tom]

Woodrow Wilson who was the predecessor of FDR and student of Bryan-Jennings put Karl Marx socialism to good use when they placed the Income tax on Wealthy, to each according to need, Transformed the Democrats to Labor movement, enroads in Philly, NYC

OC, seriously, what in the f^ck are you talking about?  LOLOLOL.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

The prior post was more accurate, as sentimemt towards Vietnam grew, the North began to merge from the South

As far as the income tax in 1916, the gap between rich and poor began to take effect and in 2008 realignmemt with Obama, as incomes fell, and no real wage growth, the North votes solid Democrat. And away from GOP.

[Hillary pays minimum wage]

The prior post was more accurate, as sentimemt towards Vietnam grew, the North began to merge from the South

As far as the income tax in 1916, the gap between rich and poor began to take effect and in 2008 realignmemt with Obama, as incomes fell, and no real wage growth, the North votes solid Democrat. And away from GOP.

Taxes reinforce income gaps?  Maybe it doesn't work then.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Yeah, Social Security has failed to keep up with the rich, as the cap on SSA tax  havent been raised and needs to, as Boomers retire.

[Hillary pays minimum wage]

Yeah, Social Security has failed to keep up with the rich, as the cap on SSA tax  havent been raised and needs to, as Boomers retire.

Anti-rich jargon comes from Obama.  You are proof he's brainwashed over a third of our country.  Why do you think you're entitled to rich people's money when you're lucky just to be part of the U.S.?  Did you grow up getting everything handed to you from rich parents and now you just think everyone owes you their hard earned income?  Perhaps you just think you're better than everyone else.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

I didnt say that I am entitled to rich income. Poor people pay over 1/3rd of income in SSA, Rich people only a 1/4th. Boomers are taking all of SSA taxes. Our Generation isnt going come close to taking that type of money out of treasury.

[Hillary pays minimum wage]

I didnt say that I am entitled to rich income. Poor people pay over 1/3rd of income in SSA, Rich people only a 1/4th. Boomers are taking all of SSA taxes. Our Generation isnt going come close to taking that type of money out of treasury.

Define rich and poor.  Your generation will work until the day they die, yes.  What about it? It's not fair you can't retire and relax for the last 10-20 years of your life?

[hopper]

No I think it was 1992 when the GOP went right on the social issues. The North isn't conservative on social issues like the Deep South is. The trend wasn't as pronounced in the Upper Midwest as it was maybe still is in the Northeast. Republicans can still win Ohio and be competitive in WI for example. Dems win IL because of Cook County. MI-I think the GOP lost Oakland County because of social issues though on the Presidential Level. The County Commissioner has been the same Republican for years though.

[Hillary pays minimum wage]

No I think it was 1992 when the GOP went right on the social issues. The North isn't conservative on social issues like the Deep South is. The trend wasn't as pronounced in the Upper Midwest as it was maybe still is in the Northeast. Republicans can still win Ohio and be competitive in WI for example. Dems win IL because of Cook County. MI-I think the GOP lost Oakland County because of social issues though on the Presidential Level. The County Commissioner has been the same Republican for years though.

That's all true too.  I also meant by looking at the trends in the New England states throughout the 80's.  It's hard to see because of how much Reagan and even Bush won by, but there's a decline in their performances from the Eisenhower-Nixon era with the exceptions of 1964 and 1968.

[hopper]

No I think it was 1992 when the GOP went right on the social issues. The North isn't conservative on social issues like the Deep South is. The trend wasn't as pronounced in the Upper Midwest as it was maybe still is in the Northeast. Republicans can still win Ohio and be competitive in WI for example. Dems win IL because of Cook County. MI-I think the GOP lost Oakland County because of social issues though on the Presidential Level. The County Commissioner has been the same Republican for years though.

That's all true too.  I also meant by looking at the trends in the New England states throughout the 80's.  It's hard to see because of how much Reagan and even Bush won by, but there's a decline in their performances from the Eisenhower-Nixon era with the exceptions of 1964 and 1968.

Well New England-I think Vermont was trending D even if the GOP had not moved to the right on social issues. I do think Connecticut and Maine went D after the GOP went right on social issues in 1992. I don't think it made much of a difference in RI or MA. Carter did win RI in 1980 and MA went voted for "Their Favorite Son" Dukakis in 1988.

[Hillary pays minimum wage]

MA and RI have always been blue.  Other than NH we don't have much of a chance anywhere up there. I could see us getting ME if we won by enough with a low voter turnout. As for the mid-north, PA is our only other hope unless your governor starts making some magic happen haha.  Over the last few elections, MD and DE have gone pretty far to the left.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

The GOP has not trouble in North, but boarder South for exception of IN, without Kasich, they dont win the Potomac, like OH, and Trump has lost ground in OH. I think Clinton wins OH. 

[RRusso1982]

New Jersey didn't really swing left until after 1994.  That was after the Republican revolution and the GOP became dominated by Southern Christian conservatives.  NJ went Republican every time between 1968 and 1988 and only narrowly went to Clinton by 2 points in 1992.  In 1996 Clinton won the state by 17 points. 

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Woodrow Wilson who was the predecessor of FDR and student of Bryan-Jennings put Karl Marx socialism to good use when they placed the Income tax on Wealthy, to each according to need, Transformed the Democrats to Labor movement, enroads in Philly, NYC

OC, seriously, what in the f^ck are you talking about?  LOLOLOL.

The part that could make some sense is that the embracing of Progressivism by Bryan's heir Wilson, the sort of morphing of Democratic Populism into Democratic Progressivism, allowed the Democrats to take advantage of the demographic changes in the North in a way that Bryan never could.