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« on: January 21, 2016, 04:04:48 PM »

He's not a true conservative (sorry, Sarah) and has no real loyalty to the Republican party.  He has very recently been pro-abortion, so with the looming retirement of RBG and other justices would he appoint conservative or liberal justices?
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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2016, 04:05:44 PM »

He would appoint very moderate judges just like he does with everything else.
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2016, 04:43:50 PM »

He would probably appoint members of his own family tbh
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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2016, 04:49:09 PM »
« Edited: January 21, 2016, 04:58:39 PM by OC »

He already said Scalia & Alito judges were his allies & Roberts was a big mistake. So, he will put another one of them on, to get rid of Roe v Wade.

This is what this election hinges on, RBG retirement.
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2016, 06:20:58 PM »

He would probably appoint members of his own family tbh

His sister is a judge on the 3rd circuit, but she's 78 and on senior status.
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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2016, 06:57:07 PM »

I have two horrifying words to answer this question: Justice Palin
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2016, 06:59:33 PM »

I have two horrifying words to answer this question: Justice Palin

Oof, I hadn't thought of that.  She's still young, too.  Gulp.
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2016, 08:03:18 PM »

He would appoint very moderate judges just like he does with everything else.
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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2016, 01:20:09 AM »

I have two horrifying words to answer this question: Justice Palin

Oof, I hadn't thought of that.  She's still young, too.  Gulp.

She's not a lawyer.  You can relax.

Trump may well nominate the most qualified Justices, almost regardless of ideology.  That's actually how it used to be before the GOP blocked the nomination of Abe Fortas to be Chief Justice.  This was the start of the ideological confirmation fights.  It was Herbert Hoover who appointed Louis Brandeis, a liberal jurist, and it was FDR who appointed Felix Frankfurter, who was a Strict Constructionalist.  Truman appointed the moderates Fred Vinson and Tom Clark, while Eisenhower appointed liberals Earl Warren and William Brennan as well as centrist Potter Stewart.  JFK appointed the liberal Arthur Goldberg, but he also appointed the surprisingly conservative Byron White.
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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2016, 02:47:35 AM »

Felix Frankfurter, joined with Liberal Robert H Jackson & moderate GOPer Burton( appointed by Truman) in unanimous verdict of Brown. Brandeis, Frankfurter, and Cardoza were Jewish thats why they were appointed by different party prez.

Trump said no more Roberts, but want more smart judges like Scalia.
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2016, 03:07:22 AM »

He's not a true conservative (sorry, Sarah) and has no real loyalty to the Republican party.

Is loyalty to the Republican Party an important factor for you, Bushie?
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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2016, 07:00:25 AM »

He's not a true conservative (sorry, Sarah) and has no real loyalty to the Republican party.

Is loyalty to the Republican Party an important factor for you, Bushie?

Not necessarily since I'm not even sure I will vote for Trump if he is the nominee thanks to discussions with some friends over on Facebook (discussions having to do with him not being a Christian), I was just asking the question since this is the Atlas Forum and it would have been brought up eventually.
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2016, 07:40:32 AM »

I have two horrifying words to answer this question: Justice Palin

Oof, I hadn't thought of that.  She's still young, too.  Gulp.

She's not a lawyer.  You can relax.

Trump may well nominate the most qualified Justices, almost regardless of ideology.  That's actually how it used to be before the GOP blocked the nomination of Abe Fortas to be Chief Justice.  This was the start of the ideological confirmation fights.  It was Herbert Hoover who appointed Louis Brandeis, a liberal jurist, and it was FDR who appointed Felix Frankfurter, who was a Strict Constructionalist.  Truman appointed the moderates Fred Vinson and Tom Clark, while Eisenhower appointed liberals Earl Warren and William Brennan as well as centrist Potter Stewart.  JFK appointed the liberal Arthur Goldberg, but he also appointed the surprisingly conservative Byron White.

Wasn't Forbas a LBJ hack who had serious ethical issues?
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2016, 08:50:50 AM »

Trump may well nominate the most qualified Justices, almost regardless of ideology.  That's actually how it used to be before the GOP blocked the nomination of Abe Fortas to be Chief Justice.  This was the start of the ideological confirmation fights.  It was Herbert Hoover who appointed Louis Brandeis, a liberal jurist, and it was FDR who appointed Felix Frankfurter, who was a Strict Constructionalist.  Truman appointed the moderates Fred Vinson and Tom Clark, while Eisenhower appointed liberals Earl Warren and William Brennan as well as centrist Potter Stewart.  JFK appointed the liberal Arthur Goldberg, but he also appointed the surprisingly conservative Byron White.

Agreed. Which is why I'm actually considering voting for him, should he be the nominee.
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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2016, 08:57:23 AM »

Presidents shouldn't pick ideologue type Justices, it should be who is most qualified. This is a perfect example of hyper-polarization.
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« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2016, 09:02:18 AM »

Now that I think about it, he'll probably bring in celebs. Is Judge Judy doing much these days?
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« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2016, 09:30:01 AM »

I have two horrifying words to answer this question: Justice Palin

Oof, I hadn't thought of that.  She's still young, too.  Gulp.

She's not a lawyer.  You can relax.

Trump may well nominate the most qualified Justices, almost regardless of ideology.  That's actually how it used to be before the GOP blocked the nomination of Abe Fortas to be Chief Justice.  This was the start of the ideological confirmation fights.  It was Herbert Hoover who appointed Louis Brandeis, a liberal jurist, and it was FDR who appointed Felix Frankfurter, who was a Strict Constructionalist.  Truman appointed the moderates Fred Vinson and Tom Clark, while Eisenhower appointed liberals Earl Warren and William Brennan as well as centrist Potter Stewart.  JFK appointed the liberal Arthur Goldberg, but he also appointed the surprisingly conservative Byron White.

Wasn't Forbas a LBJ hack who had serious ethical issues?

Fortas was a top-flight jurist, who was rated "Near Great" at the time of his resignation from the bench.  He was described as "the most brilliant legal mind ever produced by Yale Law School", and his short career was full of substantial opinions.  He was also Clarence Earl Gideon's counsel before the SCOTUS in Gideon v. Wainwright, a landmark decision establishing the right of criminal defendants to legal counsel, regardless of ability to pay.  He was an LBJ appointee, and he was LBJ's attorney before the Federal Courts in the 1948 case that sealed his 87 vote "victory" against former Gov. Coke Stevenson in the 1948 Democratic Senate Primary (tantamount to the election), but his credentials as a jurist were without question.

Fortas's ethical issues did not surface during his 1968 nomination period.  His nomination was derailed by a coalition of Republicans and Dixiecrats; his rejection gave Nixon the motivation to nominate a Southerner to the Court solely because the nominee was a Southerner.  However, in 1969, it was revealed that Fortas, while a sitting SCOTUS Justice, accepted a $20K retainer from financier Louis Wolfson, while Wolfson was under investigation for Securities Law Violations.  (Wolfson would later be convicted of felonies and sentenced to prison.)  In return for unspecified "advice", Wolfson would pay $20K annually to Fortas for life, and continue to pay this money to Fortas's widow should he die first.  The allegation was that this money was obtained to induce Fortas to work to quash any indictment of Wolfson by LBJ's Justice Department, or to obtain a pardon for Wolfson from LBJ.  There is no evidence that Fortas intervened on Wolfson's behalf, but the ethical implications were overwhelming, and pressure for Fortas to resign came from some of his liberal SCOTUS colleagues in order to avoid impeachment proceedings.

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« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2016, 10:14:02 AM »

Presidents shouldn't pick ideologue type Justices, it should be who is most qualified. This is a perfect example of hyper-polarization.

Ironically Trump may the least likely to do just that whereas Ted Cruz has an extremist litmus test.
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« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2016, 03:15:12 PM »

Now that I think about it, he'll probably bring in celebs. Is Judge Judy doing much these days?

According to a recent study 10% of American college students think she is already on the bench...
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« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2016, 03:16:46 PM »

Now that I think about it, he'll probably bring in celebs. Is Judge Judy doing much these days?

According to a recent study 10% of American college students think she is already on the bench...

That seems low to me, but perhaps I am thinking of the high school numbers...those must be extravagant.
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« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2016, 03:38:57 PM »

According to a recent study 10% of American college students think she is already on the bench...

Yeah, but that's the same 10% that couldn't tell you the name of the Chief Justice. We're in sad shape...
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« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2016, 03:53:51 PM »

According to a recent study 10% of American college students think she is already on the bench...

Yeah, but that's the same 10% that couldn't tell you the name of the Chief Justice. We're in sad shape...

To be fair, not knowing the name of the Chief Justice is a little more forgivable than thinking Judge Judy of all people is a Supreme Court Justice.
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« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2016, 04:02:06 PM »

According to a recent study 10% of American college students think she is already on the bench...

Yeah, but that's the same 10% that couldn't tell you the name of the Chief Justice. We're in sad shape...

To be fair, not knowing the name of the Chief Justice is a little more forgivable than thinking Judge Judy of all people is a Supreme Court Justice.

They asked using her real name, not Judge Judy, which makes it more forgivable.
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« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2016, 04:06:17 PM »

According to a recent study 10% of American college students think she is already on the bench...

Yeah, but that's the same 10% that couldn't tell you the name of the Chief Justice. We're in sad shape...

To be fair, not knowing the name of the Chief Justice is a little more forgivable than thinking Judge Judy of all people is a Supreme Court Justice.

They asked using her real name, not Judge Judy, which makes it more forgivable.

Oh ok, that makes more sense.
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