Iowa poll (Loras, landlines +cellphone): Clinton 59%, Sanders 30%)
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« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2016, 03:01:18 PM »

Loras is a joke pollster. The Hillary people will be in shock and awe mode once the results come in because they see that she'll finally be sent into retirement. I will accept my chocolates later.

Oh, be quiet, child.
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« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2016, 03:04:11 PM »

Loras is a joke pollster. The Hillary people will be in shock and awe mode once the results come in because they see that she'll finally be sent into retirement. I will accept my chocolates later.

Oh, be quiet, child.
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« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2016, 03:04:54 PM »

Dude, a literal fascist party is in first place in your country.

In polling, not in charge of the country.

You might soon elect a real fascist as President (or nominee).

That's why I'm warning you.
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« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2016, 03:05:48 PM »

Hmm, you have newish/jokish Gravis and Loras showing her up by 20 or more.

And battle-tested Selzer, Quinnipiac, CNN, PPP etc. all showing a close race.

With which polls would you rather go ?

Do you think Clinton's lead in this poll is so high because they polled too many Blaxicasians?

The point is you're going with subpar college polls over more reputable companies just because you like the results of the subpar college polls better. When PPP, pro-Hillary house effect and all, shows a six point race, it's pretty clear that this poll is anything but accurate. Seriously, stop clouding yourself in fantasy land and realize that Hillary is AT BEST a 60% favorite (chance of winning) in IA, and is HIGHLY UNLIKELY to win NH.

Ok, but nowhere in this thread did I ever say "I believe this poll!" so..?
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« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2016, 03:06:59 PM »

Loras is a joke pollster. The Hillary people will be in shock and awe mode once the results come in because they see that she'll finally be sent into retirement. I will accept my chocolates later.

Oh, be quiet, child.
#Believingapollsolelybecauseyouliketheresults

I think it's pretty clear that the methodology and the sampling on this poll are way, way ahead of CNN's.
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« Reply #30 on: January 22, 2016, 03:08:19 PM »

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« Reply #31 on: January 22, 2016, 03:08:34 PM »

Hmm, you have newish/jokish Gravis and Loras showing her up by 20 or more.

And battle-tested Selzer, Quinnipiac, CNN, PPP etc. all showing a close race.

With which polls would you rather go ?

Do you think Clinton's lead in this poll is so high because they polled too many Blaxicasians?

The point is you're going with subpar college polls over more reputable companies just because you like the results of the subpar college polls better. When PPP, pro-Hillary house effect and all, shows a six point race, it's pretty clear that this poll is anything but accurate. Seriously, stop clouding yourself in fantasy land and realize that Hillary is AT BEST a 60% favorite (chance of winning) in IA, and is HIGHLY UNLIKELY to win NH.

Ok, but nowhere in this thread did I ever say "I believe this poll!" so..?

The combination of these two posts comes pretty close:

I wonder if this race will go the way of 2000, where Bradley campaigned vigorously and was within 2-3% of Gore in the polls before caucus day... only to be trashed.

Straight into the trashcan with this one ...

Just close your eyes, cover your ears, it'll all be over soon. Smiley


Loras is a joke pollster. The Hillary people will be in shock and awe mode once the results come in because they see that she'll finally be sent into retirement. I will accept my chocolates later.

Oh, be quiet, child.
#Believingapollsolelybecauseyouliketheresults

I think it's pretty clear that the methodology and the sampling on this poll are way, way ahead of CNN's.

This is literally the ONLY pollster showing this margin. Even PPP has it fairly tight now.....
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« Reply #32 on: January 22, 2016, 03:20:39 PM »

I have a feeling that Sanders' RCP average is going to drop like a rock next week.
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« Reply #33 on: January 22, 2016, 03:29:28 PM »

Hmm, you have newish/jokish Gravis and Loras showing her up by 20 or more.

And battle-tested Selzer, Quinnipiac, CNN, PPP etc. all showing a close race.

With which polls would you rather go ?

Do you think Clinton's lead in this poll is so high because they polled too many Blaxicasians?

The point is you're going with subpar college polls over more reputable companies just because you like the results of the subpar college polls better. When PPP, pro-Hillary house effect and all, shows a six point race, it's pretty clear that this poll is anything but accurate. Seriously, stop clouding yourself in fantasy land and realize that Hillary is AT BEST a 60% favorite (chance of winning) in IA, and is HIGHLY UNLIKELY to win NH.

When it comes to Iowa, CNN isn't reputable. Prove it.
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« Reply #34 on: January 22, 2016, 03:35:56 PM »

The only polls showing a Sanders lead here are a deeply methodologically suspect CNN poll, a junk uni poll (Quinnipiac) and ARG.
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« Reply #35 on: January 22, 2016, 03:36:19 PM »

Ugh just let Iowa come already so we can be done with all these insane polls all over the place.
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« Reply #36 on: January 22, 2016, 04:03:59 PM »

The only polls showing a Sanders lead here are a deeply methodologically suspect CNN poll, a junk uni poll (Quinnipiac) and ARG.

Nobody said Sanders was leading. They just said that there is no way that Clinton leads with almost 30 points.
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« Reply #37 on: January 22, 2016, 04:04:58 PM »

Yeah, this outfit also had Clinton up by nearly 40 in October. Let's all just wait on DMR and hold our horses.
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« Reply #38 on: January 22, 2016, 04:07:02 PM »

That's more like it!
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« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2016, 07:53:58 PM »

How can you be a Sanders supporter and also be stupid enough to own a fu ck ing landline? 

JUNK POLL!
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« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2016, 08:00:00 PM »

How can you be a Sanders supporter and also be stupid enough to own a fu ck ing landline? 

JUNK POLL!

Tell 'em!
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« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2016, 08:04:15 PM »

How can you be a Sanders supporter and also be stupid enough to own a fu ck ing landline? 

JUNK POLL!

Tell 'em!

I will.  The Hillbots are clinging to a poll of grandmas with landlines.  I'm also convinced they are the only Hillbots on the planet, because who the  can get excited for vote for Hillary Clinton? 
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« Reply #42 on: January 22, 2016, 08:06:57 PM »

How can you be a Sanders supporter and also be stupid enough to own a fu ck ing landline? 

JUNK POLL!

Tell 'em!

I will.  The Hillbots are clinging to a poll of grandmas with landlines.  I'm also convinced they are the only Hillbots on the planet, because who the  can get excited for vote for Hillary Clinton? 

Grandmas were the only line of defense against Senator Joni Ernest in 2014! And they'll be back in 10 days. They're always back.
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« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2016, 09:05:16 PM »

Grandmas, especially sassy black grandmas, are the heart and soul of the Democratic Party.
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« Reply #44 on: January 22, 2016, 09:22:54 PM »

Looks like an outlier when compared with other polls. I highly doubt this.
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« Reply #45 on: January 22, 2016, 10:08:45 PM »

Loras is a joke pollster. The Hillary people will be in shock and awe mode once the results come in because they see that she'll finally be sent into retirement. I will accept my chocolates later.

Oh, be quiet, child.
#Believingapollsolelybecauseyouliketheresults

#Discardingapollsolelybecauseyoudisliketheresults
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« Reply #46 on: January 22, 2016, 10:48:08 PM »

I agree that CNN's methodology is problematic and if IA is 55% male then Hillary is f***ed. I don't think Hillary is leading by this much, but I do think her lead is probably slightly larger than the polling suggests.
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« Reply #47 on: January 22, 2016, 11:25:53 PM »

These polls are all over the place. Sanders by 8 or Clinton by 29. My lord. Just vote already!
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« Reply #48 on: January 22, 2016, 11:27:07 PM »

These polls are all over the place. Sanders by 8 or Clinton by 29. My lord. Just vote already!

I agree there's only one poll that matters.
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« Reply #49 on: January 23, 2016, 04:39:48 AM »

Yeah, this outfit also had Clinton up by nearly 40 in October. Let's all just wait on DMR and hold our horses.
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