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« on: January 23, 2016, 06:01:24 PM »

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/editorials/endorsement/2016/01/23/des-moines-register-caucus-endorsement-hillary-clinton/79240238/

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/editorials/endorsement/2016/01/23/des-moines-register-iowa-caucus-endorsement-marco-rubio/79240264/?hootPostID=05953172c27bf26915d970e8b0332521

As expected.
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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2016, 06:02:10 PM »

DMR is trying to bury Rubio's breaking gay sex scandal. I pray they are not successful.
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2016, 06:02:20 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2016, 06:04:46 PM »

They endorsed Braley in '14, Romney in '12, and Clinton in '08. Has never endorsed the eventual Democratic nominee.
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2016, 06:05:30 PM »

I'm actually pretty surprised by Rubio. I thought they'd go with a more moderate establishment candidate.
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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2016, 06:05:47 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2016, 06:07:02 PM »

I'm actually pretty surprised by Rubio. I thought they'd go with a more moderate establishment candidate.

Yeah, like Trump.
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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2016, 06:07:31 PM »

I was expecting Bush, but Rubio makes sense as well.
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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2016, 06:08:27 PM »
« Edited: January 23, 2016, 06:10:00 PM by Torie »

It's interesting that in discussing Bernie, they did not diss his ideas, but rather just that none of them could get passed, absent a massive reeducation of the voters, so that a majority of Congress become Bernie types, so he might prove ineffective as it were, but not that his ideas are unrealistic in all events, even if they could get passed, because they just won't work, and cannot be prudently afforded. And that suggests the ideological orientation of the DMR. It's pretty far left.

I suspect Rubio made a more effective presentation to DMR that Kasich or Bush, and he's more in the hunt for the nomination still than the latter two anyway, and particularly in Iowa.
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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2016, 06:08:42 PM »

Glad they went with Clinton and highlighted the feebleness of the Sanders campaign
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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2016, 06:10:11 PM »

It's interesting that in discussing Bernie, they did not diss his ideas, but rather just that none of them could get passed, absent a massive reeducation of the voters, so that a majority of Congress become Bernie types, so he might prove ineffective as it were, but not that his ideas are unrealistic in all events, even if they could get passed, because they just won't work, and cannot be prudently afforded. And that suggests the ideological orientation of the DMR. It's pretty far left.
I guess Romney must be pretty far left as well.
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« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2016, 06:11:50 PM »

Yes, Republicans will love to work with Hillary who she branded as her 'enemies'.
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« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2016, 06:12:05 PM »

It's interesting that in discussing Bernie, they did not diss his ideas, but rather just that none of them could get passed, absent a massive reeducation of the voters, so that a majority of Congress become Bernie types, so he might prove ineffective as it were, but not that his ideas are unrealistic in all events, even if they could get passed, because they just won't work, and cannot be prudently afforded. And that suggests the ideological orientation of the DMR. It's pretty far left.
I guess Romney must be pretty far left as well.

He's a Pub honey. They don't agree much with any of the Pubs really. You pick from what you got, who seems to be in the game.
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« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2016, 06:12:51 PM »

It's interesting that in discussing Bernie, they did not diss his ideas, but rather just that none of them could get passed, absent a massive reeducation of the voters, so that a majority of Congress become Bernie types, so he might prove ineffective as it were, but not that his ideas are unrealistic in all events, even if they could get passed, because they just won't work, and cannot be prudently afforded. And that suggests the ideological orientation of the DMR. It's pretty far left.
I guess Romney must be pretty far left as well.

He's a Pub honey. They don't agree much with any of the Pubs really. You pick from what you got, who seems to be in the game.

I'm pretty sure they endorsed Romney in the general.
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« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2016, 06:15:02 PM »

It's interesting that in discussing Bernie, they did not diss his ideas, but rather just that none of them could get passed, absent a massive reeducation of the voters, so that a majority of Congress become Bernie types, so he might prove ineffective as it were, but not that his ideas are unrealistic in all events, even if they could get passed, because they just won't work, and cannot be prudently afforded. And that suggests the ideological orientation of the DMR. It's pretty far left.
I guess Romney must be pretty far left as well.

He's a Pub honey. They don't agree much with any of the Pubs really. You pick from what you got, who seems to be in the game.

I'm pretty sure they endorsed Romney in the general.

Against Obama? That's interesting.
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« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2016, 06:16:18 PM »

It was a pretty big deal in 2012 when they endorsed Romney.
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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2016, 06:17:39 PM »

It was a pretty big deal in 2012 when they endorsed Romney.

I wonder what estranged them from Obama.
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« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2016, 06:19:16 PM »

And yeah, they also endorsed Braley over Ernest in 2014, but anyone with a brain would've done so. The Iowa electorate momentarily lost their mind on election day 2014.
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« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2016, 06:21:35 PM »
« Edited: January 23, 2016, 07:21:54 PM by Averroës »

The Rubio endorsement is hilariously grudging. You get a strong sense that even the editors who wrote the piece don't really believe in the argument that they're making on Rubio's behalf.
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« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2016, 06:22:05 PM »

Glad they went with Clinton and highlighted the feebleness of the Sanders campaign

They endorsed her when she lost 8 years ago.
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« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2016, 06:22:35 PM »

Glad they went with Clinton and highlighted the feebleness of the Sanders campaign

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« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2016, 06:29:41 PM »
« Edited: January 23, 2016, 06:31:22 PM by VPH »

Remember, the Des Moines Register endorsed Paul Simon in 1988, Bill Bradley in 2000, John Edwards in 2004, and Hillary Clinton in 2008. All of those candidates have something in common; none of them won the nomination, or even Iowa!
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« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2016, 06:30:07 PM »

Remember, the Des Moines Register endorsed Paul Simon in 1988, Bill Bradley in 2000, John Edwards in 2004, and Hillary Clinton in 2004. All of those candidates have something in common; none of them won the nomination, or even Iowa!

Also, one didn't even run in the year in which they were endorsed.
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« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2016, 06:46:00 PM »

Remember, the Des Moines Register endorsed Paul Simon in 1988, Bill Bradley in 2000, John Edwards in 2004, and Hillary Clinton in 2008. All of those candidates have something in common; none of them won the nomination, or even Iowa!

The John Edwards endorsement seems a particularly glaring example of poor judgment. I mean, that guy was facially a con artist, spewing BS.
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« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2016, 06:52:54 PM »

I'm actually pretty surprised by Rubio. I thought they'd go with a more moderate establishment candidate.

How much of it is just that they don't want to endorse a candidate who's downplaying Iowa and putting all their chips in New Hampshire, as Bush and Kasich now appear to be doing?
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