ABC Feb 6 GOP Debate Criteria - UPDATE: Lineup announced

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If they are basing this on Iowa, here's the stage lineup:

Christie Bush Rubio Cruz Trump Carson Kasich

[HilLarry]

Is Carson even going to be in NH for this or is he still going to be doing his "laundry"??

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Is Carson even going to be in NH for this or is he still going to be doing his "laundry"??

Ya gotta have clean clothes for the debate.

[HilLarry]

Is Carson even going to be in NH for this or is he still going to be doing his "laundry"??

Ya gotta have clean clothes for the debate.

LOL but honestly does anyone know if he's actually gonna show?

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Is Carson even going to be in NH for this or is he still going to be doing his "laundry"??

Ya gotta have clean clothes for the debate.

LOL but honestly does anyone know if he's actually gonna show?

Probably; he outperformed the media's expectations in Iowa.

[Attorney General & Senator Dwarven Dragon]

If they don't include Fiorina, they are nothing but a sexist network. 8 candidate debates work just fine.

[Mr. Morden]

Is Carson even going to be in NH for this or is he still going to be doing his "laundry"??

Ya gotta have clean clothes for the debate.

LOL but honestly does anyone know if he's actually gonna show?

He says he will participate in the debate, yes.  He actually has no plans to campaign in New Hampshire today, tomorrow, or Friday though.  His next NH campaign event is Saturday, and then he'll debate that evening:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/ben-carson-press-conference-fresh-clothes-218702

I still think he might stay in the race longer than many of you guys seem to think, but switch to a slow paced campaign, where he only does about one or two events a week (plus debates).  What else is he going to do if not run for president?

[Mr. Morden]

Fiorina's complaining about the selection criteria:

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2016/02/03/carly-fiorina-rips-republicans-debate-process-after-she-gets-left-out/7JBmithSleFcoesqPpolBM/story.html

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[IceSpear]

At first I was happy they got rid of the undercard, but now I'm kind of upset.

Imagine a Sneed vs. Gilmore one on one debate. LOL

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At first I was happy they got rid of the undercard, but now I'm kind of upset.

Imagine a Sneed vs. Gilmore one on one debate. LOL

Exactly. Gilmore would move ahead of somebody in the polls finally.

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At first I was happy they got rid of the undercard, but now I'm kind of upset.

Imagine a Sneed vs. Gilmore one on one debate. LOL

Exactly. Gilmore would move ahead of somebody in the polls finally.
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The Peoples' Gil would destroy iSneed and amplify #GILMENTUM going into NH -- a state that he has invested precious resources in, to the tune of several thousand dollars![

[Likely Voter]

I did quick averages using only live phone polls...

USA
1   Trump   35.22
2   Cruz   19.44
3   Rubio   10.89
4   Carson   8.22
5   Bush   4.78
6   Christie   3.22
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7   Kasich   2.33
8   Fiorina   2.22
9   Gilmore   0.11
      
NH
1   Trump   31.88
2   Cruz   11.82
3   Rubio   11.47
4   Kasich   11.35
5   Bush   8.35
6   Christie   7.41
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7   Fiorina   3.59
8   Carson   3.29
9   Gilmore   0.00

So basically everyone but Fiorina and Gilmore qualifies. There really is no reasonable poll selection to they could do to put Fiorina in unless they changed their criteria.  Perhaps a reasonable criteria instead of 'top 3' in IA would be 'won a delegate or more in IA'...with that she would qualify. Christie would not but he is still in top 6 in US and NH polling.

[Maxwell]

The debate will be 100% better if Fiorina isn't there, so she can whine all she wants but she should stay there.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

Fiorina would just interrupt everyone like she always does.

[Attorney General & Senator Dwarven Dragon]

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SEXIST!

[Illiniwek]

Shoot me if Fiorina is there.

[Attorney General & Senator Dwarven Dragon]

Fiorina's twitter reveals that Romney, Gingrich and Cruz among others are pressuring ABC to quit it with the sexism.

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Fiorina's twitter reveals that Romney, Gingrich and Cruz among others are pressuring ABC to quit it with the sexism.

Any respect I had for them left is gone.

[Likely Voter]

ABC makes it official, no Carly. Looks like they are using national polls to determine podium position.


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/abc-news-announces-hampshire-republican-debate-candidate-lineup/story?id=36721505

[yankeesfan]

I don't understand why they use national polls for podium position.  Actual votes have been cast, and delegates have been won.

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SEXISM

[Blue3]

Who's excluded from the debate? Is it just Fiorina and Gilmore now?

[Attorney General & Senator Dwarven Dragon]

Who's excluded from the debate? Is it just Fiorina and Gilmore now?

Yes. Gilmore I could care less about, but excluding Fiorina is clear sexism that ABC should be ashamed of.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

Who's excluded from the debate? Is it just Fiorina and Gilmore now?

Yes. Gilmore I could care less about, but excluding Fiorina is clear sexism that ABC should be ashamed of.

No it isn't. She's not doing well enough either nationally or in New Hampshire.

[Attorney General & Senator Dwarven Dragon]

Who's excluded from the debate? Is it just Fiorina and Gilmore now?

Yes. Gilmore I could care less about, but excluding Fiorina is clear sexism that ABC should be ashamed of.

No it isn't. She's not doing well enough either nationally or in New Hampshire.

Yeah, they put out criteria. But it's not like there was a real mystery as to what that criteria would produce at the time of its release. ABC news knew it would likely exclude Fiorina.

Look, with only 8/9 candidates running, there's really no reason to have anything more than minimal criteria. You can fit 8 or 9 candidates on the stage just fine. Fiorina is an important voice as the only woman, and had Romney, Gingrich, Ayotte, Cruz, and Carson saying she should be included. For ABC to design the criteria it did and stick to it is Sexism - the only reason the criteria existed was to create an excuse to avoid a lawsuit.