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« on: January 29, 2016, 06:48:07 PM »

Obviously this is geared mostly towards Republicans and Democrats, but other people can try, too.

For me, it's the death penalty, immigration, and gay marriage.
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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2016, 06:58:38 PM »

Death penalty, gay marriage, inmigration, gun control, crime, environment, energy, health care and just about every economic initiative most importantly.
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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2016, 06:59:27 PM »

Death penalty, gay marriage, inmigration, gun control, crime, environment, energy, health care and just about every economic initiative most importantly.

You must REALLY care about abortion, LOL.
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2016, 07:55:12 PM »

Immigration is the big one. A variety of economic issues too, but I don't agree with the Democrats on those either so it's a wash.
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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2016, 08:02:28 PM »

GOP: Healthcare and Social Security mainly. Some aspects of taxation

Canadian Tories: Canada Pension Plan, Non-action on abortion.

Like TJ with the GOP, the other parties are worse on pensions and abortion, so I'll stick with the Tories.
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2016, 08:06:07 PM »

GOP: Gay Marriage, Gun Control, Environment, Healthcare
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2016, 08:23:53 PM »

I mean, I disagree with my party while still broadly agreeing with them (e.g., I am weary and skeptical of excessive gun control, but I think the GOP is too far right on the issue and pretty much talking heads for the NRA, which I don't like), but I'll keep it simple:

Gay marriage
Abortion (but I find it disturbing when people don't support a cutoff where it's no longer available)
Immigration (but I'm more conservative on it than I used to be)
Environmental regulation
Minimum wage (only to the extent that I support indexing it to inflation ... I'm nowhere near the $15 crowd)
General churchy stuff (my religion is kind of private for me, and I prefer candidates who don't overdo it, like Rubio last night)
Flat tax (I don't know if this is RNC-sanctioned, but I support working to lower taxes within the progressive income tax structure)

Other than that, I'm more or less your traditional pro-business conservative ... which is why calling me a RINO over some hot button issues is truly stupid (hence my tongue-in-cheek username).
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2016, 09:11:54 PM »

Oh my, 7 straight Republicans?

Well,

-Abortion. But even then they aren't as far left as the Democrats.
-Electoral reform, maybe? They don't seem to talk about it too much, but it should be a big issue for every third party.
-Not really the death penalty, but I think they should take a harder stance against it.

Uh, and I guess some nuance-y things. I'm probably more moderate on a few things. Some libertarians are probably more conservative than me. Maybe I get pissed off at some things they only get mildly annoyed by, and mildly annoyed by some things most libertarians get pissed off at. But really, I agree with almost all of the LP's policies.

That's a great thing about third parties, guys, you don't have to swallow all the crap they need to get 50% of the vote every two years. Also, they don't need you. Republicans don't need me to win Georgia. If Georgia's in play, they're screwed with or without me. Even if I lived in a swing state, I don't buy the "lesser of two evils" argument.
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2016, 09:16:30 PM »


Well, you see, when you are a Democrat without a 100% ideological purity, you tend to get called out as a horrible human being no matter how rational your arguments are and how caring you are on the other issues, as we saw yesterday.
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2016, 10:03:18 PM »

Trade, some aspects of Gun Control, Corporate Welfare, Electoral Reform, but most of this depends on who you ask.
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2016, 10:07:26 PM »

Death penalty, gay marriage, inmigration, gun control, crime, environment, energy, health care and just about every economic initiative most importantly.
Just out of curiosity, what exactly makes you a Republican?
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2016, 10:10:52 PM »

Gay Marriage and the drug war, mainly.
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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2016, 10:15:26 PM »

Nothing, except the few issues where I am to the right of the GOP (i.e. that income tax should be abolished, the government should have no role in the economy, abortion should be considered just as bad of a crime as shooting somebody in the street, etc.)

Now, I disagree with the Trump wing on a bunch of stuff: the feasibility of a wall, populism, a Muslim ban, and a lack of perfectly free trade
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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2016, 10:23:21 PM »

Death penalty, gay marriage, immigration, gun control, crime, environment, energy, health care and just about every economic initiative most importantly.
Just out of curiosity, what exactly makes you a Republican?

Pro-life, extremely traditionalist and perhaps reactionary on most off-the-cuff issues (as you can see from my re-post of Hagrid into the Simple Truths mine, I agree strongly that conservatism is a feeling, a gut reaction to certain matters rather than a set of views. So at the heart of the matter, I am still conservative despite my political stances.), finding PC people utterly detestable to the point I refuse to associate. Some segments of the left are just so wimpy, it's truly an abomination and a stain on our greatness.

I'd also add that I'm not a socialist by any means, so don't be thinking of me in those terms - full-on capitalist. I'm pretty close to the middle, lean-Dem like most sane people, but that's mostly because the Republican Party has simply begun putting forth ridiculous proposals that no self-respecting person should take seriously. In decades past, that lean would be smaller.
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2016, 10:43:20 PM »
« Edited: January 30, 2016, 05:53:59 PM by Intell »

- Disagree with Obsession about 'freedom' and 'liberty'
- Disagree with the concept of Liberalism and Individual Rights
- Support NSA and every government agency for the sake of the community
- Pro-Life and deeply so
- Support Private, Religous and Charter schools funded by the government
- Oppose Euthanasia, unless under extreme scenarios.
- Even if I support Marijuana Legislation, I still disagree with the concept the Democrats have, that a person has the freedom to consume whatever they like, with no regards to their society.
- I support the Death Penalty, though I believe it should be restricted.
- By Ideology I am Wilsonian and support wars and institutions and agreements to further freedom, rights and democracy around the world, even if I disagree with how America goes on about it.
- I have sympathies towards communism, and during the cold war, I would have sided with the Soviet Union and most 3rd world revolutions against the US.
- Oppose Affirmative Action, as it is dis-advantageous to poor whites.
- Would like to drill and further exploit national resources in a controlled by manner, with natural resources being nationalised by the government.
- I oppose the Fed, and would like to audit it, and if possible I would be fine to abolish it.
- I would like the nationalisation of the banking system to be controlled by the workers and people.
- I oppose the judiciary, and would like to have it elected.
- I am opposed to the restrictive ways of 'PC culture', as well as the obsession with sex and drugs by the 'hippe or liberal' culture.
- By my philosophy, I am reactionary and traditionalist until I am proven wrong.
- I support having non-mandatory praying days in school, as well as people saying the pledge of the allegiance.
- I oppose Tariffs, while still not liking 'free trade' for corporations.
- I oppose illegal immigration, and would not accept illegal immigrant in the country, to have citizenship, and for them to only work if there is a labour shortage.
- I believe it is Immoral to continue with accepting illegal immigrants, when at this stage legal workers, are under paid and there is still quite high unemployment.
- I oppose Femenism and SJW and oppose 'equal pay for equal work', as skill does pay in part to do that.
- I oppose Common Core, and this education focused learning, which does little to prepare you for life, which is why to an extent I oppose Sanders policy for Free College, which students will use for whatever, black studies or whatever other BS subject there is.
- I would abolish standardized testing, and return education back to the local government and have funds go to the Department of Education, which allocated the money to local school, with full control.
- I want to check immigrants that come into the US, especially refugees from Syria and other third world conturies.
- I support assimilation of immigrants, while retaning aspects from their own culture.
- I support banning the burqa and niqab in public places.
- I support banning barbaric practice of hilal meat.
- I support remaning and further involving religion and god in government and society.

That's all I think for now.

Not only to the democratic party, but in general the Left.
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« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2016, 10:46:11 PM »

GOP:  aspects of immigration (favor limiting future immigration but want amnesty for those here already), R&D and infrastructure funding
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« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2016, 11:17:31 PM »

Well, you see, when you are a Democrat without a 100% ideological purity, you tend to get called out as a horrible human being no matter how rational your arguments are and how caring you are on the other issues, as we saw yesterday.
This is a very accurate and insightful critique of the Democratic Party. Remember how, back in 2012, every Democratic candidate for president refused a hypothetical 10:1 ratio of spending cuts to tax increases for fear of angering the grassroots? Or how Democrats responded to their humiliating loss in the presidential election by arguing that their candidate was too moderate? Or how Democratic primary voters ousted one of their most respected senators for compromising too much (in favor of a candidate who claimed that rape is the will of God)? Or how the rabidly partisan Democratic Majority Leader in the House of Representatives lost a primary race to an inexperienced college professor because he wasn't ideologically pure enough? Or how the Democrats refused to let a bipartisan immigration reform bill come to a vote in the House of Representatives? Or how the Democratic primary has become such a hyper-partisan litmus test that the one-time frontrunner for the presidential nomination argued that to win the general election, he had to be prepared to loose the primary?

Oh, wait... it was the Republicans who did all that? Huh.
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« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2016, 12:11:01 AM »

-Abortion: I am centrist on this issue, and lean towards supporting a 20 week ban.
-Assisted Suicide/Euthanasia: I strongly oppose making this legal.
-Prostitution: I think it should remain illegal, but johns should be punished as opposed to the women who sell their bodies.
-Marijuana: I favor shifting from imprisonment to a fine based system, but oppose medical and/or legalization.
-References to God: I don't really care for removing references to God from public places.
-Reducing nuclear weapons stockpiles: I believe the US should maintain a large nuclear arsenal for deterrence purposes.
-NSA/Patriot Act: I don't oppose surveillance per se, but I do think there should be a few more safeguards against profiling and the like. Otherwise, I don't have anything to hide so I don't really care so long as it keeps us safe.
-'Free' Trade: I lean protectionist on trade issues, while most Democrats these days have embraced neoliberalism.
-High Speed Rail: I think this is a ridiculous waste of money.
-Car Emissions Regulation: I think we've gone too far on this...
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« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2016, 12:12:29 AM »


Well, you see, when you are a Democrat without a 100% ideological purity, you tend to get called out as a horrible human being no matter how rational your arguments are and how caring you are on the other issues, as we saw yesterday.

Kirkpatrick, Tester, etc. get away with being anti-gun control....
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« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2016, 12:30:45 AM »

Well, you see, when you are a Democrat without a 100% ideological purity, you tend to get called out as a horrible human being no matter how rational your arguments are and how caring you are on the other issues, as we saw yesterday.
This is a very accurate and insightful critique of the Democratic Party. Remember how, back in 2012, every Democratic candidate for president refused a hypothetical 10:1 ratio of spending cuts to tax increases for fear of angering the grassroots? Or how Democrats responded to their humiliating loss in the presidential election by arguing that their candidate was too moderate? Or how Democratic primary voters ousted one of their most respected senators for compromising too much (in favor of a candidate who claimed that rape is the will of God)? Or how the rabidly partisan Democratic Majority Leader in the House of Representatives lost a primary race to an inexperienced college professor because he wasn't ideologically pure enough? Or how the Democrats refused to let a bipartisan immigration reform bill come to a vote in the House of Representatives? Or how the Democratic primary has become such a hyper-partisan litmus test that the one-time frontrunner for the presidential nomination argued that to win the general election, he had to be prepared to loose the primary?

Oh, wait... it was the Republicans who did all that? Huh.

I'm very aware of how reality works. I'm talking about on this forum, where what I stated is a well-accepted fact.
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« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2016, 01:23:03 AM »

- Surveillance: Pretty heavily against domestic surveillance and the many loopholes and bs justifications they use to get around restrictions
- Gun control: The 2nd amendment does actually exist, and I think we owe it to the people to only implement control policies that actually reduce gun violence. So I'm for gun control, but not knee-jerk policies like banning assault rifles just to please the base, despite the fact that it probably will not really help
- Drug policy: Prohibition doesn't work and only empowers cartels and gangs. If we can't get a handle on the problem any other way, then legalize it all and pour all the enforcement money into treatment/drug-specific vaccines for people who want to quit
- Trade: I'm not very supportive at all of these 'free trade' agreements from the past 20 years, notably TPP. Needs to be more focus on workers and less on greedy multinationals

Those are my main ones (or at least the ones that I think of most often)
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« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2016, 01:51:01 AM »

Using the Democrats for now: Abortion, general relative prioritization of issues, a variety of economic issues on which I disagree from the left.
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« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2016, 02:33:24 AM »

- Disagree with Obsession about 'freedom' and 'liberty'
- Disagree with the concept of Liberalism and Individual Rights
- Support NSA and every government agency for the sake of the community
- Pro-Life and deeply so
- Support Private, Religous and Charter schools funded by the government
- Oppose Euthanasia, unless under extreme scenarios.
- Even if I support Marijuana Legislation, I still disagree with the concept the Democrats have, that a person has the freedom to consume whatever they like, with no regards to their society.
- I support the Death Penalty, though I believe it should be restricted.
- By Ideology I am Wilsonian and support wars and institutions and agreements to further freedom, rights and democracy around the world, even if I disagree with how America goes on about it.
- I have sympathies towards communism, and during the cold war, I would have sided with the Soviet Union and most 3rd world revolutions against the US.
- Oppose Affirmative Action, as it is dis-advantageous to poor whites.
- Would like to drill and further exploit national resources in a controlled by, with natural resources being nationalised by the government.
- I oppose the Fed, and would like to audit it, and if possible I would be fine to abolish it.
- I would like the nationalisation of the banking system to be controlled by the workers and people.
- I oppose the judiciary, and would like to have it elected.
- I am opposed to the restrictive ways of 'PC culture', as well as the obsession with sex and drugs by the 'hippe or liberal' culture.
- By my philosophy, I am reactionary and traditionalist until I am proven wrong.
- I support having non-mandatory praying days in school, as well as people saying the pledge of the allegiance.
- I oppose Tariffs, while still not liking 'free trade' for corporations.
- I oppose illegal immigration, and would not accept illegal immigrant in the country, to have citizenship, and for them to only work if there is a labour shortage.
- I believe it is Immoral to continue with accepting illegal immigrants, when at this stage legal workers, are under paid and there is still quite high unemployment.
- I oppose Femenism and SJW and oppose 'equal pay for equal work', as skill does pay in part to do that.
- I oppose Common Core, and this education focused learning, which does little to prepare you for life, which is why to an extent I oppose Sanders policy for Free College, which students will use for whatever, black studies or whatever other BS subject there is.
- I would abolish standardized testing, and return education back to the local government and have funds go to the Department of Education, which allocated the money to local school, with full control.
- I want to check immigrants that come into the US, especially refugees from Syria and other third world conturies.
- I support assimilation of immigrants, while retaning aspects from their own culture.
- I support banning the burqa and niqab in public places.
- I support banning barbaric practice of hilal meat.
- I support renaming religion and god in government and society.

That's all I think for now.

Not only to the democratic party, but in general the Left.

So you are basically a William Jennings Bryan Democrat
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« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2016, 04:19:54 AM »

- Disagree with Obsession about 'freedom' and 'liberty'
- Disagree with the concept of Liberalism and Individual Rights
- Support NSA and every government agency for the sake of the community
- Pro-Life and deeply so
- Support Private, Religous and Charter schools funded by the government
- Oppose Euthanasia, unless under extreme scenarios.
- Even if I support Marijuana Legislation, I still disagree with the concept the Democrats have, that a person has the freedom to consume whatever they like, with no regards to their society.
- I support the Death Penalty, though I believe it should be restricted.
- By Ideology I am Wilsonian and support wars and institutions and agreements to further freedom, rights and democracy around the world, even if I disagree with how America goes on about it.
- I have sympathies towards communism, and during the cold war, I would have sided with the Soviet Union and most 3rd world revolutions against the US.
- Oppose Affirmative Action, as it is dis-advantageous to poor whites.
- Would like to drill and further exploit national resources in a controlled by, with natural resources being nationalised by the government.
- I oppose the Fed, and would like to audit it, and if possible I would be fine to abolish it.
- I would like the nationalisation of the banking system to be controlled by the workers and people.
- I oppose the judiciary, and would like to have it elected.
- I am opposed to the restrictive ways of 'PC culture', as well as the obsession with sex and drugs by the 'hippe or liberal' culture.
- By my philosophy, I am reactionary and traditionalist until I am proven wrong.
- I support having non-mandatory praying days in school, as well as people saying the pledge of the allegiance.
- I oppose Tariffs, while still not liking 'free trade' for corporations.
- I oppose illegal immigration, and would not accept illegal immigrant in the country, to have citizenship, and for them to only work if there is a labour shortage.
- I believe it is Immoral to continue with accepting illegal immigrants, when at this stage legal workers, are under paid and there is still quite high unemployment.
- I oppose Femenism and SJW and oppose 'equal pay for equal work', as skill does pay in part to do that.
- I oppose Common Core, and this education focused learning, which does little to prepare you for life, which is why to an extent I oppose Sanders policy for Free College, which students will use for whatever, black studies or whatever other BS subject there is.
- I would abolish standardized testing, and return education back to the local government and have funds go to the Department of Education, which allocated the money to local school, with full control.
- I want to check immigrants that come into the US, especially refugees from Syria and other third world conturies.
- I support assimilation of immigrants, while retaning aspects from their own culture.
- I support banning the burqa and niqab in public places.
- I support banning barbaric practice of hilal meat.
- I support renaming religion and god in government and society.

That's all I think for now.

Not only to the democratic party, but in general the Left.

So you are basically a William Jennings Bryan Democrat

Basically but also Humphrey, Casey Sr. and old school union democrats.
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« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2016, 07:36:04 AM »
« Edited: January 30, 2016, 08:10:18 AM by Battenberg »

Not my party, but Corbyn's views on the Falklands make me uncomfortable.
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