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Landslide Lyndon
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« on: January 31, 2016, 06:39:18 PM »

Despicable. Let's hope that loyal Democrats will crush the socialist codger from Vermont for his attempts to denigrate the greatest President of the last 50 years.

https://politicalwire.com/2016/01/31/is-sanders-running-against-obama/

Sen. Bernie Sanders endorsed a new book out this week: Buyer’s Remorse: How Obama Let Progressives Down by Bill Press.
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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2016, 06:42:54 PM »

This has been responded to MANY times today. He said 4 times that he respects the president and said nothing about the book being accurate of the President.
https://youtu.be/YA35TeKiK-U?t=7m28s
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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2016, 06:45:29 PM »

Obama is not the greatest president of the last 50 years. Any Republican will tell you otherwise. Any independent will tell you otherwise. Any sane, non-hackish Democrat will tell you otherwise. And frankly, Sanders distancing himself from Obama makes him more electable than Hillary "I'll just be Obama's third term!" Clinton.
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2016, 06:50:13 PM »

"Loyalist" Democrats are ridiculous. There's nothing wrong with not supporting all of the Party, or even not supporting it at all. The Party is a mechanism for advancing progressive and liberal principles, not vica versa.

As for Obama, let's be clear: he was okay. He can even be said to have been good, but he is not great, he is no visionary, and idealizing him to support your ideas is not helpful to liberalism or the Party. Just because Obama is the president and is a Democrat doesn't mean everything he touches turns to gold.
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2016, 06:51:12 PM »

Obama is not the greatest president of the last 50 years. Any Republican will tell you otherwise. Any independent will tell you otherwise. Any sane, non-hackish Democrat will tell you otherwise. And frankly, Sanders distancing himself from Obama makes him more electable than Hillary "I'll just be Obama's third term!" Clinton.

You may think this, but polls show that real Democrats disagree.  Obama is very popular with Democratic voters.  Sanders is in an awkward position where he is running an anti-establishment campaign while a President that most of his supporters like is in office and so far he has toed the line very carefully.
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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2016, 06:51:39 PM »

Ignoring his Vietnam problem, LBJ was by far the greatest President of the last 50 years.
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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2016, 06:52:25 PM »

Ignoring his Vietnam problem, LBJ was by far the greatest President of the last 50 years.

LBJ was only in office until 1968. That is not 'the last 50 years'.
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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2016, 06:53:11 PM »

Sanders disliking of Obama shows exactly how he'd handle power; badly. The Obama Presidency shows perfectly how on issues like Trade, and national security there's a big difference between what you say on the campaign trail, and what you do in office.

Sanders doesn't understand the Presidency, and is simply hoping to build momentum for a candidate in 2020 (In the same way that Dean did for Obama in 2004)
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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2016, 07:01:26 PM »

Does it get tiring doing your shtick, Landslide?
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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2016, 07:10:19 PM »

Despicable. Let's hope that loyal Democrats will crush the socialist codger from Vermont for his attempts to denigrate the greatest President of the last 50 years.

https://politicalwire.com/2016/01/31/is-sanders-running-against-obama/

Sen. Bernie Sanders endorsed a new book out this week: Buyer’s Remorse: How Obama Let Progressives Down by Bill Press.

I thought you were a good poster back in the day.  Guess you've always been a hack.
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« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2016, 07:50:55 PM »

Ignoring his Vietnam problem, LBJ was by far the greatest President of the last 50 years.

LBJ was only in office until 1968. That is not 'the last 50 years'.
Yes he was president in "the last 50 years" aka 1966 - now.
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« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2016, 07:59:10 PM »

Your hate towards Sanders is pretty sad.
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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2016, 08:01:30 PM »

He is campaigning w Cornell West. Bernie is running the "I don't hate Obama but don't really like him either"
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« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2016, 08:38:36 PM »

He is campaigning w Cornell West. Bernie is running the "I don't hate Obama but don't really like him either"

Exactly. If Sanders was a real progressive and not a phony one he should have rejected and denounced the endorsement of that hateful racist who called the President a "Rockeffeler Republican in blackface".
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« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2016, 08:43:17 PM »

The anti-Bernie hackery on this forum is reaching grotesque proportions.
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« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2016, 08:44:26 PM »

The anti-Bernie hackery on this forum is reaching grotesque proportions.

Hey now, I've toned it down a bit at least.  Though the hilarious overreaction in this thread is making me reconsider.
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« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2016, 08:44:51 PM »

The anti-Bernie hackery on this forum is reaching grotesque proportions.

On a related note, I hereby endorse Bernie Sanders for the Democratic nomination. Not because I actually support him, I just want to see the Hillary hacks' reaction when their 'inevitable' candidate turns out not to be so inevitable.
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« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2016, 08:47:34 PM »

The anti-Bernie hackery on this forum is reaching grotesque proportions.

On a related note, I hereby endorse Bernie Sanders for the Democratic nomination. Not because I actually support him, I just want to see the Hillary hacks' reaction when their 'inevitable' candidate turns out not to be so inevitable.

I'm sure that Sanders appreciates the endorsement of a 13 year old hack on an internet forum.
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« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2016, 05:04:15 AM »

It would be more accurate to say that Sanders is attempting to evoke the insurgent spirit of Obama's 2008 campaign.  He cannot run as Obama's favored successor because that is clearly Clinton.

The interview Obama gave a week before the Iowa Caucus was a thinly-veiled endorsement of Clinton and an indirect diss of Sanders.

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Sanders really owes no loyalty to Obama -- the two have not been close in the past.  Obama is obviously going to (quietly) favor the woman who once served as his Secretary of State over a politician who technically isn't even in the president's party.







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« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2016, 05:07:49 AM »

The anti-Bernie hackery on this forum is reaching grotesque proportions.
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« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2016, 06:21:56 AM »

Obama is not the greatest president of the last 50 years. Any Republican will tell you otherwise. Any independent will tell you otherwise. Any sane, non-hackish Democrat will tell you otherwise. And frankly, Sanders distancing himself from Obama makes him more electable than Hillary "I'll just be Obama's third term!" Clinton.

Yup. Agreed.
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« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2016, 07:48:27 AM »

Sanders said he needs sweep Iowa, NV & NH to stay viable for Super Tues, that he's not gonna get. DEM Superdelegates in House & Senate doesnt feel he can win the 270 votes needed to win. And Pelosi shot down single payer.
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« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2016, 07:57:16 AM »

Sanders said he needs sweep Iowa, NV & NH to stay viable for Super Tues, that he's not gonna get. DEM Superdelegates in House & Senate doesnt feel he can win the 270 votes needed to win. And Pelosi shot down single payer.

Voters are not going to listen to what Pelosi has to say.
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« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2016, 08:28:45 AM »

Obama is not the greatest president of the last 50 years. Any Republican will tell you otherwise. Any independent will tell you otherwise. Any sane, non-hackish Democrat will tell you otherwise. And frankly, Sanders distancing himself from Obama makes him more electable than Hillary "I'll just be Obama's third term!" Clinton.

What a silly statement. Do you think Low Energy George HW Bush's single useless term was better or something?
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