Sanders' campaign manager floats voter fraud conspiracy theory

[IceSpear]

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/sanders-campaign-cites-alarming-signs-clinton-020552922.html

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Sad. Never thought they'd sink that low. But if this doesn't tell you who is behind, nothing will. The damage control has begun.

[Lief 🗽]

It's pretty clear that wide segments of Bernie's base will be alleging voter fraud tomorrow night when he loses.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

Stop with these stupid pointless treads against Sanders.

[IceSpear]

Stop with these stupid pointless treads against Sanders.

How is it pointless? Sanders' campaign manager literally said he is concerned that Clinton's campaign is rigging the caucuses based off no evidence, even admitting he wasn't familiar with the rules. It's actually a big deal and a huge accusation.

Go read the article before you comment.

[Virginiá]

Damn it Sanders, this is exactly what Republicans do! Cry about non-existent voter fraud (which they know doesn't exist).

Given the nature of Sanders' supporters, I'd actually be more likely to think they were trying this than Hillary.

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The Hillary campaign was claiming voter fraud, so whatever, dude.

[DrScholl]

I remember that Clinton's campaign in 2008 made a similar claim against Obama in 2008 and we know how that cycle ended. Sanders' campaign is doing pre-emptive damage control.

[YPestis25]

I really like Sanders, but my god, some of the stuff his campaign has done is ridiculous. Weaver needs to just stop talking.

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Weaver is like the David Brock of the Sanders campaign. If you guys take him seriously, I strongly encourage our Sandernistas here to take everything that comes out of David Brock's mouth completely seriously.

[IceSpear]

Weaver is like the David Brock of the Sanders campaign. If you guys take him seriously, I strongly encourage our Sandernistas here to take everything that comes out of David Brock's mouth completely seriously.

Really? David Brock runs an independent Super PAC, he is not part of Hillary's campaign. In fact, it would be illegal for the campaign to tell him what to do. Jeff Weaver is the campaign manager of Sanders for President.

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Weaver is like the David Brock of the Sanders campaign. If you guys take him seriously, I strongly encourage our Sandernistas here to take everything that comes out of David Brock's mouth completely seriously.

Really? David Brock runs an independent Super PAC, he is not part of Hillary's campaign. In fact, it would be illegal for the campaign to tell him what to do. Jeff Weaver is the campaign manager of Sanders for President.

Ah. I was unaware of this.

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Weaver is like the David Brock of the Sanders campaign. If you guys take him seriously, I strongly encourage our Sandernistas here to take everything that comes out of David Brock's mouth completely seriously.

Really? David Brock runs an independent Super PAC, he is not part of Hillary's campaign. In fact, it would be illegal for the campaign to tell him what to do. Jeff Weaver is the campaign manager of Sanders for President.

Actually, they're coordinating.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/05/12/how-a-super-pac-plans-to-coordinate-directly-with-hillary-clintons-campaign/

[Ebsy]

Yes, Brock's Super PAC and the Clinton campaign do coordinate. However, Brock is not the CAMPAIGN MANAGER, so the analogy sort of falls apart.

My main concern is that precinct captains are routinely from out of state, and I am wondering if Sanders even has captains for every precinct if his campaign manager isn't even aware of this fact.

[psychprofessor]

Yes, Brock's Super PAC and the Clinton campaign do coordinate. However, Brock is not the CAMPAIGN MANAGER, so the analogy sort of falls apart.

My main concern is that precinct captains are routinely from out of state, and I am wondering if Sanders even has captains for every precinct if his campaign manager isn't even aware of this fact.

Sanders campaign is no where near as organized as Clinton's in Iowa. Robby Mook and Joel Beneson both gave interviews where they seemed confident and assured that their metrics look good. Sanders operatives are screaming fraud, shenanigans and dirty tricks...that gives you an idea of where the campaigns feel the state of the race is.

[Shadows]

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/sanders-campaign-cites-alarming-signs-clinton-020552922.html

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Sad. Never thought they'd sink that low. But if this doesn't tell you who is behind, nothing will. The damage control has begun.

Given how morally bankrupt & corrupt Clinton is, I wouldn't put it past her to try this. Obviously Weaver has received reports from the ground, otherwise he would not be seeing this.

Clinton guys are filled with Obama people & strategies, whether it about giving votes to O Malley or not. This could entirely be plausible for Clinton

[Maxwell]

Found a picture of the Bernie Sanders campaign atm:



I can't believe that voting hasn't started and #BernieBroExtraordinare Jeff Weaver is already finding excuses for why they lost. I'm amazed.

[Ebsy]

Clinton guys are filled with Obama people & strategies, whether it about giving votes to O Malley or not. This could entirely be plausible for Clinton

I mean, what's being alleged isn't taboo at all. Every candidate brings in muscle from out of state to do battle in Iowa, and it is not uncommon for every precinct captain in a precinct to be from out of state. The journalist and Weaver and implying some sort of nefarious intent on the part of the Clinton campaign, like Clinton should be ashamed of trying to win the caucus through legitimate means.

[Landslide Lyndon]

More disgraceful smearing by the flailing campaign of the socialist codger from Vermont.
Let's hope the good people of Iowa give him the kick in the nuts he deserves.

[Shadows]

What about the letter which a Clinton supporter received. Till proven false, there is strong ground of suspicion, given how dishonest & corrupt Hillary is!

It is a legitimate concern & the media should really look into it & see if there is any ground for such claims. And this forum is filled with a bunch of trolls who really very little common sense!

[Ebsy]

What about the letter which a Clinton supporter received. Till proven false, there is strong ground of suspicion, given how dishonest & corrupt Hillary is!

It is a legitimate concern & the media should really look into it & see if there is any ground for such claims. And this forum is filled with a bunch of trolls who really very little common sense!

No.

[IceSpear]

What about the letter which a Clinton supporter received. Till proven false, there is strong ground of suspicion, given how dishonest & corrupt Hillary is!

It is a legitimate concern & the media should really look into it & see if there is any ground for such claims. And this forum is filled with a bunch of trolls who really very little common sense!

1) You clearly didn't read the article

2) The burden of proof is on the accuser

[Tender Branson]

More disgraceful smearing by the flailing campaign of the socialist codger from Vermont.
Let's hope the good people of Iowa give him the kick in the nuts he deserves.

What do you mean with "flailing campaign of the socialist codger" ?

Sanders has gone from being 50% behind in IA a few months ago to a statistical tie.

The only campaign that's "flailing" and collapsing are the ones of Hillary and unidentified third man.

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Hopefully, there are no irregularities tonight. But considering how incompetent the US is in handling elections (even 16 years after Florida's fiasco), you never know ...

[Lyin' Steve]

Bill and Hill had the same idea back in 2008.  They thought Obama was bussing people in from Illinois next door.

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2) The burden of proof is on the accuser

Unless it's Hillary making up sh**t, then the burden of proof is on the accused.