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« on: February 01, 2016, 01:30:40 AM »

How well would Trump do he if ran as a Democrat instead?
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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2016, 01:32:00 AM »

Badly.
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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2016, 01:33:57 AM »

I think he's purposely trying to sabotage the Republican party.
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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2016, 01:34:41 AM »

With all due respect, the Republican Party sabotaged themselves decades ago.
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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2016, 01:36:56 AM »

With all due respect, the Republican Party sabotaged themselves decades ago.
The 1980s decade disagrees with you.
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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2016, 01:39:26 AM »

With all due respect, the Republican Party sabotaged themselves decades ago.
The 1980s decade disagrees with you.

That's exactly the decade when Republicans decided for short term gains over long term stability. When they decided to be the party of church over state, the party of the John Birch Society and whatever fear mongering far right groups came after it, the party of hating immigrants, peddling abortion, and being "antigovernment". That's when the seeds of TRUMPism were planted.
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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2016, 01:44:42 AM »

With all due respect, the Republican Party sabotaged themselves decades ago.
The 1980s decade disagrees with you.

That's exactly the decade when Republicans decided for short term gains over long term stability. When they decided to be the party of church over state, the party of the John Birch Society and whatever fear mongering far right groups came after it, the party of hating immigrants, peddling abortion, and being "antigovernment". That's when the seeds of TRUMPism were planted.

I must have missed the time when Republicans weren't fairly anti-immigrant...
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« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2016, 01:53:36 AM »

TRUMP's success in this campaign has had a lot to do with his strong stance on a wedge issue (immigration) that divides the GOP elites from its rank and file supporters.  Romney was able to prevent his opponents from exploiting this wedge in 2012 by taking the hardest stance on this issue.  In 2016, Bush and Rubio were both associated with amnesty and it was really low hanging fruit for TRUMP.  From there popularity has been converted into media coverage and media coverage into popularity, aided by a frankly brilliant campaign by a brilliant man.  

I really don't think Democrats would give him the same treatment.  Is there really a single wedge issue he could exploit on the Democratic side of the aisle.  Sanders has managed to largely build his campaign off a single issue (income inequality) but TRUMP obviously would not be taken as seriously addressing this issue.  And his attacks on other candidates would not be received as well in a party where most people actually like each other.  

I think his ceiling would be John Edwards 2008.
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« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2016, 02:06:45 AM »

With all due respect, the Republican Party sabotaged themselves decades ago.
The 1980s decade disagrees with you.

That's exactly the decade when Republicans decided for short term gains over long term stability. When they decided to be the party of church over state, the party of the John Birch Society and whatever fear mongering far right groups came after it, the party of hating immigrants, peddling abortion, and being "antigovernment". That's when the seeds of TRUMPism were planted.

Abortion - Republicans never had being pro-choice as the sort of litmus test the democrats have it as. It's more of a change from the party being divided on the issue to a litmus test to be pro-life.
Hating Immigrants - Uh, Reagan was pro-amnesty........

The rest is legitimate though.
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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2016, 02:12:04 AM »

With all due respect, the Republican Party sabotaged themselves decades ago.
The 1980s decade disagrees with you.

That's exactly the decade when Republicans decided for short term gains over long term stability. When they decided to be the party of church over state, the party of the John Birch Society and whatever fear mongering far right groups came after it, the party of hating immigrants, peddling abortion, and being "antigovernment". That's when the seeds of TRUMPism were planted.

Abortion - Republicans never had being pro-choice as the sort of litmus test the democrats have it as. It's more of a change from the party being divided on the issue to a litmus test to be pro-life.
Hating Immigrants - Uh, Reagan was pro-amnesty........

The rest is legitimate though.
Trump being pro-choice doesn't bother me much...... compared to his eminent domain, ethanol subsidizes, single player health care plan and other things. If he defunds PPP and made it completely free market driven, then I'm OK with that.
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« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2016, 02:32:44 AM »

He'd do amazingly on that side of the isle too. He's a genius when it comes to marketing and selling himself, which is why I can't rule him out in a general election. He could adopt sane policies once he is nominated and his supporters would stick with him
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« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2016, 02:55:34 AM »

Most Democrats don't feel like they're losing culturally. Most of Trump's supporters do, which is why they support him. They think he's a human Delorean who's going to take America back to the 1950's.
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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2016, 03:04:20 AM »

I assume if Trump ran as a Democrat, he wouldn't hold the positions that he does, and therefore, I can see him doing decently. His main problem, I imagine, would be that he'd be a billionaire in a party that's grown much less fond of them in the last eight years.
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« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2016, 03:25:51 AM »

That depends on which platform he runs and which other candidates are running.
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« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2016, 03:27:36 AM »

With all due respect, the Republican Party sabotaged themselves decades ago.
The 1980s decade disagrees with you.

That's exactly the decade when Republicans decided for short term gains over long term stability. When they decided to be the party of church over state, the party of the John Birch Society and whatever fear mongering far right groups came after it, the party of hating immigrants, peddling abortion, and being "antigovernment". That's when the seeds of TRUMPism were planted.

Nope i believe it was the Gingrich revoultion what destroyed it
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« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2016, 04:08:25 AM »

He'd do amazingly on that side of the isle too. He's a genius when it comes to marketing and selling himself, which is why I can't rule him out in a general election. He could adopt sane policies once he is nominated and his supporters would stick with him

Agreed. And most of Trump's positions, especially on social issues, appear to be quite moderate, much to the chagrin of those on the far right. The point is that Trump and Sanders have tapped into real unrest among members of the electorate, and I believe the popularity of both men comes from the same place, and that is a fundamental distrust of status quo politics.
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« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2016, 09:04:07 AM »

If Trump campaigned as obnoxiously for exaggerated  liberal positions as he currently does for exaggerated conservative ones, there would be more than enough liberal rubes to keep him viable in a Democratic primary. Imagine Trump insulting southerners or Christians in the same manner he insults brown people and Muslims—the left would eat it up.
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« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2016, 09:09:49 AM »

He'd be doing a better job than Jim Webb at appealing to the remaining white, blue collar voters. 
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« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2016, 09:29:36 AM »

I think he would have had an easier time winning the nomination. Even though he is the favorite on the pubs side based on the polls. Just would have been less competition and on social issues he could have just backed liberal positions if he ran as a dem.
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« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2016, 09:49:16 AM »

If Trump campaigned as obnoxiously for exaggerated  liberal positions as he currently does for exaggerated conservative ones, there would be more than enough liberal rubes to keep him viable in a Democratic primary. Imagine Trump insulting southerners or Christians in the same manner he insults brown people and Muslims—the left would eat it up.

I've been giggling off and on for the past hour at the idea of "Democrat Trump", imagining this montage of insults being directed in the way you described.
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« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2016, 11:10:11 AM »

Nope i believe it was the Gingrich revoultion what destroyed it

Gingrich certainly helped extend the Republican's taste for nastiness into the 21st century, but people like Lee Atwater were throwing bombs years before then. But it's not just these people. The ending of the Fairness Doctrine by Reagan, the start of 24 hour news and the rise of conservative talk radio especially served to really poison the well long-term. Anyone who has listened to people like Limbaugh, Hannity, etc drone on and on about whatever should understand just how badly that can change the electorate when they are listened to by millions of people with little knowledge of anything politics for decades. They should have found a way to get those people in line years ago.
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« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2016, 11:48:15 AM »

He'd do as well as Alan Grayson is currently doing in his Democratic primary - so potentially pretty well, considering Grayson is still tied or ahead of his opponent.
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« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2016, 12:25:09 PM »

Given that the thing he was most well known for in politics before 2015 was his peddling of a conspiracy theory that President Obama isn't a legitimate president, and given that President Obama is still well-liked by most Democrats, I can't imagine that Trump would have done well in a Democratic primary. Maybe he would have gotten a decent bit of support in states like Kentucky and West Virginia where there are a lot of Democrats who usually vote Republican but have never officially changed their party registration, but in the rest of the country he would be doing terribly.

If he had never gotten into the birther stuff, then maybe he could have had broader viability.
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« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2016, 01:24:39 PM »

Judging by many of the Democrats on this forum, he'd do pretty well.
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« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2016, 01:25:31 PM »

There have been several polls with Trump having higher favorables with Dems than Republicans.
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