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« Reply #800 on: February 02, 2016, 02:31:59 AM »

What were the stats for Hillary voters that snubbed Obama in the general? I see Sanders' college voters going well over that number.

LOL, keep dreaming. 2008 primary was way more brutal than this year's.  

The dynamic is a bit different though with the more moderate candidate being favored to win this time. Bitter Clinton supporters defected to McCain (see Arkansas), while Bitter Sanders supporters would either vote Stein, or abstain, with maybe a few going to Trump if he makes the general. I can't say how that would change the results, but it wouldn't be exactly the same.

Clinton rans on a pretty liberal platform. It's just that she advocates realism instead of wild promises about a revolution that will upend the status quo.
When the ghost of a TRUMP or Cruz presidency appears they will vote enthusiastically for Hillary.  
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« Reply #801 on: February 02, 2016, 02:33:33 AM »

Boone County - Rural Precinct 1 results in a Clinton-Sanders tie.
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« Reply #802 on: February 02, 2016, 02:35:57 AM »

What were the stats for Hillary voters that snubbed Obama in the general? I see Sanders' college voters going well over that number.

LOL, keep dreaming. 2008 primary was way more brutal than this year's.  

The dynamic is a bit different though with the more moderate candidate being favored to win this time. Bitter Clinton supporters defected to McCain (see Arkansas), while Bitter Sanders supporters would either vote Stein, or abstain, with maybe a few going to Trump if he makes the general. I can't say how that would change the results, but it wouldn't be exactly the same.

The PUMA effect looked bigger initially, but the economic collapse and Palin scared them back into the arms of Obama for the most part. I think Arkansas would've swung by a similar margin against Obama even if he ran uncontested.
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« Reply #803 on: February 02, 2016, 02:37:16 AM »

lol at all the frustrated, delusional Bernie assholes trying to pretend Bernie beat expectations and never had a chance in Iowa.
CNN had Bernie up 9 in Iowa, and the polls have been MOE for the last month.
Just 12 hours ago these kids were saying Bernie was going to easily win because of the enthusiasm gap.  Now they hope we've all forgotten.  Steve McQueen remembers.



Nope, and it looks like she won just because she got lucky with coin flips.

"THE COINS WERE RIGGED!  CHECK THEM OUT - THEY HAD HEADS ON BOTH SIDES!!!"
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« Reply #804 on: February 02, 2016, 02:37:25 AM »

Having dug into the results by CD, it seems that Clinton wins CD 3 convincingly (54-46), winning one of the two actually contested delegates in the state.  The remaining one will depend on the statewide winner.

Pledged Delegate count out of Iowa: Clinton 22 - Sanders 21 - Too Close to Call 1
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« Reply #805 on: February 02, 2016, 02:37:54 AM »

How many delegates are still left to allocate?
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« Reply #806 on: February 02, 2016, 02:37:59 AM »

Boone County - Rural Precinct 1 results in a Clinton-Sanders tie.

Does that mean the magic heads Hillary wins, tails Bernie loses coin comes out to play again?

It's like Hillary is back to betting on cattle futures again, drawing to 1.5625% by going 6-for-6 per the Des Moines Register.
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« Reply #807 on: February 02, 2016, 02:43:55 AM »

How many delegates are still left to allocate?

State or national delegates?


Unrelated: anyone know where to find the results of the tele-caucus and any satellite caucuses?  I guess I can figure it out by subtracting all the county results, but it would be a good cross-check to have the results independently.
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« Reply #808 on: February 02, 2016, 02:48:30 AM »

How many delegates are still left to allocate?

State or national delegates?


Unrelated: anyone know where to find the results of the tele-caucus and any satellite caucuses?  I guess I can figure it out by subtracting all the county results, but it would be a good cross-check to have the results independently.

State.
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« Reply #809 on: February 02, 2016, 02:52:02 AM »

O'Malley may be out of the race, but he did elect some number of delegates to the County Conventions. His supporters could still play a role, and even get a delegate or two elected to the State Convention.

He did not hit 15% in any county, but came close in two: Crawford and Monroe.  Each gets an odd number of delegates to the State Convention (5 and 3, respectively), so it may be in the trailing candidate's interest to help O'Malley hit viability in each of these counties.  This may even occur in other counties with just a handful of O'Malley delegates, or alternatively the few O'Malley delegates may make a difference in the ultimate allocation.
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« Reply #810 on: February 02, 2016, 02:54:43 AM »

Here's the current county map Atlas-style minus counties with precincts still outstanding. It looks like Sanders was able to consolidate basically the entire Ron Paul supporter demographic in Jefferson county, interestingly enough, looking at the Republican results and seeing nothing unusual there.

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« Reply #811 on: February 02, 2016, 02:56:59 AM »

Bernie's mega-coatails among young white males carried the Paulites in Jefferson county?
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« Reply #812 on: February 02, 2016, 02:59:36 AM »

Here's the same map with the leading candidates filled in in the incomplete counties:

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« Reply #813 on: February 02, 2016, 02:59:55 AM »

Here's the current county map Atlas-style minus counties with precincts still outstanding. It looks like Sanders was able to consolidate basically the entire Ron Paul supporter demographic in Jefferson county, interestingly enough, looking at the Republican results and seeing nothing unusual there.



Will people still argue that Bernie hasn't poached a significant portion of Paulbots?
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« Reply #814 on: February 02, 2016, 03:03:55 AM »

lol at all the frustrated, delusional Bernie assholes trying to pretend Bernie beat expectations and never had a chance in Iowa.
CNN had Bernie up 9 in Iowa, and the polls have been MOE for the last month.
Just 12 hours ago these kids were saying Bernie was going to easily win because of the enthusiasm gap.  Now they hope we've all forgotten.  Steve McQueen remembers.



Nope, and it looks like she won just because she got lucky with coin flips.

"THE COINS WERE RIGGED!  CHECK THEM OUT - THEY HAD HEADS ON BOTH SIDES!!!"

How did the Sanders people want a dead-tie precinct to be decided?
If they just handed it to Sanders the count would be 695-693 Clinton.

That's ok.  Clinton people have a president.  Bernie people have a childish little sob story about how the election was stolen from them by a coin flip that they can annoy people with for the next few months.
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« Reply #815 on: February 02, 2016, 03:20:01 AM »

It looks like Kossuth, Hancock, Fremont, Tama, and Muscatine Counties are now all 100% reported. Clinton up by 3, but I really can't see Sanders making up that difference with what's left.
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« Reply #816 on: February 02, 2016, 03:20:46 AM »

lol at all the frustrated, delusional Bernie assholes trying to pretend Bernie beat expectations and never had a chance in Iowa.
CNN had Bernie up 9 in Iowa, and the polls have been MOE for the last month.
Just 12 hours ago these kids were saying Bernie was going to easily win because of the enthusiasm gap.  Now they hope we've all forgotten.  Steve McQueen remembers.



Nope, and it looks like she won just because she got lucky with coin flips.

"THE COINS WERE RIGGED!  CHECK THEM OUT - THEY HAD HEADS ON BOTH SIDES!!!"

How did the Sanders people want a dead-tie precinct to be decided?
If they just handed it to Sanders the count would be 695-693 Clinton.

That's ok.  Clinton people have a president.  Bernie people have a childish little sob story about how the election was stolen from them by a coin flip that they can annoy people with for the next few months.

I'm just going to drop the 'Clinton supporter' act for a while here. These recent posts of yours might be the most unintentionally hilarious, and worst posts I've seen in quite a while. Just the writing style in them makes it impossible to take them seriously.
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« Reply #817 on: February 02, 2016, 03:21:26 AM »

It looks like Kossuth, Hancock, Fremont, Tama, and Muscatine Counties are now all 100% reported. Clinton up by 3, but I really can't see Sanders making up that difference with what's left.

Where are you getting the results from? The NYT currently has 698-694.
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« Reply #818 on: February 02, 2016, 03:23:48 AM »

It looks like Kossuth, Hancock, Fremont, Tama, and Muscatine Counties are now all 100% reported. Clinton up by 3, but I really can't see Sanders making up that difference with what's left.

Where are you getting the results from? The NYT currently has 698-694.

Politico. It's now showing everything in but Polk County and Clinton up 700-695 with 99.9% of precincts reporting.
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« Reply #819 on: February 02, 2016, 03:24:19 AM »

Hillary by 5, waiting on one precinct. Barring something drastic, it looks like she's won. And a win is a win.
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« Reply #820 on: February 02, 2016, 03:27:48 AM »

Hillary by 5, waiting on one precinct. Barring something drastic, it looks like she's won. And a win is a win.

Yay! Congrats Hilldawg! Finally a Clinton has won Iowa!

On a side note, Bernie's really going to be in trouble once we start getting to closed primaries. Even in Iowa, Hillary walloped him among registered Dems.
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« Reply #821 on: February 02, 2016, 03:28:07 AM »

CNN reporting that only Polk country, which is Clinton territory, left to report.
Not clear whether that's a single precinct or a single county with several precincts.  Either way, looks like it's time to call this for Clinton.
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« Reply #822 on: February 02, 2016, 03:28:46 AM »

Thank God our 45th president won over Communist $anders.
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« Reply #823 on: February 02, 2016, 03:32:34 AM »

Hillary by 5, waiting on one precinct. Barring something drastic, it looks like she's won. And a win is a win.

Yay! Congrats Hilldawg! Finally a Clinton has won Iowa!

On a side note, Bernie's really going to be in trouble once we start getting to closed primaries. Even in Iowa, Hillary walloped him among registered Dems.

And Clinton has no chance of winning the general seeing people who get independents are the one's who win. Coupled up with Clinton's low approval rating & disconnect with the young, looks incredibly dark for her.

A moderate GOP Candidate is very likely to win against her.
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« Reply #824 on: February 02, 2016, 03:38:22 AM »

There is indeed only one precinct left to report, which appears to be in West Des Moines. Hard to tell which way it'll go based on those around it.
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