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« on: February 02, 2016, 11:49:40 AM »

Rubio will wipe the floor with Clinton. It won't be pretty for the Democrats- at all.
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2016, 11:53:29 AM »

Clinton, but by a small margin. I don't think Rubio has power to rally the base that Trump or even Cruz have.
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2016, 11:55:45 AM »

Clinton, by closer margin than against Cruz or Trump.
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2016, 12:01:42 PM »

Rubio's an empty suit - like a right-wing parody of Obama. Hillary would easily crush him - even Bernie would have a good shot.
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2016, 12:02:23 PM »

With Obama's approvals and the advantage that the Dems have in the electoral college I can't see it ever being a wipeout, however the more I think about it the more I sadly believe that Rubio will squeeze out a win in a Bush vs Gore fashion, especially if this whole email nonsense isn't resolved by then.
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2016, 12:07:18 PM »

I think it could be relatively competitive, but Democrats definitely have some structural/demographic advantages going into the election.
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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2016, 12:07:52 PM »

This would be the worst election in US history. I'm really dreading tge thought of having to watch this. Ugh, hopefully Hillary.
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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2016, 12:08:01 PM »
« Edited: February 02, 2016, 12:09:53 PM by Governor Illiniwek »

Rubio's an empty suit - like a right-wing parody of Obama. Hillary would easily crush him - even Bernie would have a good shot.
Think about the debates... It would be a bloodbath.

It comes down to the emails. If a bombshell drops, then Rubio could write the narrative. If no bombshell drops, then Americans will be sick of hearing about the emails and Hillary can write the narrative. I truly believe there will be no bombshell, and then I think we will have a 2012 repeat. Hillary will run as Obama's third term with steady progress, and Rubio will run as a less impressive Romney.
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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2016, 12:08:06 PM »

Rubio's an empty suit - like a right-wing parody of Obama. Hillary would easily crush him - even Bernie would have a good shot.
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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2016, 12:09:20 PM »

Rubio's an empty suit - like a right-wing parody of Obama.

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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2016, 12:10:00 PM »

Rubio will flip Ohio, Virginia, and Florida. From there, Rubio needs any of: IA, CO, PA, NV, or NH. In other words, he could pick Barbara Comstock to solidify Virginia, Ernst, Gardner, Christie/Kasich, Sandoval, or Ayotte/Baker/Collins.
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« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2016, 12:25:40 PM »

Rubio is about as anodyne as it gets for a Republican. He negates the whole "party of old white guys" narrative and stays on message (read: says nothing of consequence) like a pro. If Obama's approval in November 2016 is above water, Rubio loses. If it's tanking for whatever reason, Rubio wins.
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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2016, 12:27:59 PM »

Rubio's an empty suit - like a right-wing parody of Obama.

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« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2016, 12:38:38 PM »

Rubio is a child. I am more afraid of Christie than Rubio.
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« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2016, 12:40:00 PM »

Rubio is a child. I am more afraid of Christie than Rubio.

Rubio's age should work in his advantage in an year of the insurgent, especially against someone of Clinton's age.
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« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2016, 01:04:41 PM »

Rubio is a child. I am more afraid of Christie than Rubio.

Rubio's age should work in his advantage in an year of the insurgent, especially against someone of Clinton's age.

That actually works against him than for him.
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« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2016, 01:32:09 PM »

I see shades of 2000.  Low unemployment, strong economy, everything pointing to the incumbent party winning.  But in American politics people just don't get excited about giving the established party three straight terms in power.  It's only happened once since WWII, and that was because Reagan was universally admired in 1988, and Dukakis was a pathetic candidate who ran a completely inept campaign.

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The Republicans have a women problem.  They have a culture problem.  They have a demographics problem.  Rubio would absolutely destroy Clinton with the 2004 electorate.  He'd carry WI, MI, PA, FL, OH, CO, MN... it would be ugly.  He'd win fairly easily in 2008.  In 2016?  With people born 1990-1998 now a substantial voting bloc?  People who grew up with gay rights as a fact of life?  People who were children when 9/11 happened, or are too young to even remember?

I graduated high school in 1995.  When I was in college, evangelical college republicans were a thing.  There were a LOT of them, and they mattered in elections.  Today I know a lot of millennials.  They are the bulk of my friends, and not one of them cares a whit for the GOP.  They are highly political and highly energized, and they are doing their best to elect Democrats.  In Indiana.

So, who knows?
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« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2016, 01:34:08 PM »

I see shades of 2000.  Low unemployment, strong economy, everything pointing to the incumbent party winning.  But in American politics people just don't get excited about giving the established party three straight terms in power.  It's only happened once since WWII, and that was because Reagan was universally admired in 1988, and Dukakis was a pathetic candidate who ran a completely inept campaign.

However.

The Republicans have a women problem.  They have a culture problem.  They have a demographics problem.  Rubio would absolutely destroy Clinton with the 2004 electorate.  He'd carry WI, MI, PA, FL, OH, CO, MN... it would be ugly.  He'd win fairly easily in 2008.  In 2016?  With people born 1990-1998 now a substantial voting bloc?  People who grew up with gay rights as a fact of life?  People who were children when 9/11 happened, or are too young to even remember?

I graduated high school in 1995.  When I was in college, evangelical college republicans were a thing.  There were a LOT of them, and they mattered in elections.  Today I know a lot of millennials.  They are the bulk of my friends, and not one of them cares a whit for the GOP.  They are highly political and highly energized, and they are doing their best to elect Democrats.  In Indiana.

So, who knows?

Uh, no. Not even close.
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« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2016, 01:37:55 PM »

Rubio would win no doubt. Atlas is letting it's personal preference cloud it's judgement
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« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2016, 01:56:41 PM »


I admit to hyperbole.  My mom told me back then he should be put on trial for war crimes.

And today she's a Republican.
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« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2016, 02:13:52 PM »

One thing for sure....Rubio is no Reagan.
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« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2016, 02:15:02 PM »

Rubio is young and charismatic. Clinton is more or less simply a political robot. I think it's obvious who would win.
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« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2016, 02:27:13 PM »

Rubio is young and charismatic. Clinton is more or less simply a political robot. I think it's obvious who would win.
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« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2016, 02:31:04 PM »

One thing for sure....Rubio is no Reagan.
He is no Jack Kennedy either. However, it would be interesting to see how he does considering how young he is. Cruz isn't much older, of course.
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« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2016, 02:38:00 PM »

Both are awful establishment candidates. But, if it will come to that matchup in the end
RUBIO will win this. Take my word.

Florida, Ohio, Colorado, Nevada will go (R).
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