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Question: Which is more insulting to supporters?
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Trump's assertion that he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not loose votes.
 
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Clinton's  assertion that nobody cares about the security of messages on her private server.
 
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« on: February 01, 2016, 06:37:55 AM »

Both assertions are fairly insulting, when you get right down to it. Are they trying to say the same thing, which is "my supporters are dumb enough to support me, no matter what..."?
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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2016, 06:43:57 AM »

Um, one is largely borne out with facts, the other is a guy saying he could shoot someone and his supporters are such sheep that they wouldn't change their mind.

Come on.
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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2016, 06:51:55 AM »

Um, one is largely borne out with facts, the other is a guy saying he could shoot someone and his supporters are such sheep that they wouldn't change their mind.

Really? Ok, answer me this: is there any circumstance that would make you (or any other Clinton backer, for that matter) begin to question the former Secretary? No, really, is it the case that Clinton could have said the exact same thing that Trump did?
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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2016, 07:09:29 AM »

Um, one is largely borne out with facts, the other is a guy saying he could shoot someone and his supporters are such sheep that they wouldn't change their mind.

Really? Ok, answer me this: is there any circumstance that would make you (or any other Clinton backer, for that matter) begin to question the former Secretary? No, really, is it the case that Clinton could have said the exact same thing that Trump did?

This is a serious case of false-equivalence.

If Clinton said something even vaguely similar to Trump she'd be hounded out of the race, I'd be in the front of the line telling her to get out. You've got to realise that people supporting Clinton have actually come to this conclusion as rational and sensible adults. As in, not everyone who supports Hillary is a harping fan boy incapable of self-reflection... just because you don't like it or understand it isn't really the point. I can't see myself supporting Sanders for the nomination, but at least I understand why others do, even if I disagree with the conclusions.

Jesus.
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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2016, 07:36:16 AM »

Trump. Not even close.
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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2016, 07:37:41 AM »

SillyAmerican is silly.
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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2016, 07:55:51 AM »

Both are equally bad.
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« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2016, 10:27:36 AM »

Both are bad. But i think Trumps is obviously worse...i think.
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« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2016, 11:12:43 AM »

Um, one is largely borne out with facts, the other is a guy saying he could shoot someone and his supporters are such sheep that they wouldn't change their mind.
Come on.

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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2016, 11:17:05 AM »

Um, one is largely borne out with facts, the other is a guy saying he could shoot someone and his supporters are such sheep that they wouldn't change their mind.

Really? Ok, answer me this: is there any circumstance that would make you (or any other Clinton backer, for that matter) begin to question the former Secretary? No, really, is it the case that Clinton could have said the exact same thing that Trump did?

Did you just make this poll with 2 options in hopes that everyone would choose Clinton and you could bash her?
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« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2016, 01:01:07 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2016, 01:04:06 PM »

Neither is insulting. The first one is an honor. The second one is who care.
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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2016, 01:05:43 PM »

You're going to have a rough cycle.
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« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2016, 02:09:14 PM »

One would be homicide, another is a media faux scandal. Tough choice.
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« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2016, 03:16:22 PM »

One would be homicide, another is a media faux scandal. Tough choice.
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« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2016, 08:28:51 PM »

One would be homicide, another is a media faux scandal. Tough choice.

Yeah, unless some info in one of those messages led to the death of an asset overseas. Just sayin'...
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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2016, 04:12:11 AM »
« Edited: February 03, 2016, 04:23:34 AM by SillyAmerican »

Per an article Monday (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430597/hillary-clinton-email-server-former-intelligence-officers-havoc):

“If there really were SAP [special-access programs] material on her server, consider the implications,” a former U.S. intelligence officer tells me. He refers to the “several dozen” messages marked TOP SECRET/SAP that I. Charles McCullough III, inspector general for the intelligence community, reports were on the private server at Clinton’s home in Chappaqua, N.Y., 267 miles north of the State Department. Special-access programs are America’s most clandestine activities. Their revelation could damage national security severely and possibly get people killed.

This veteran thinks that Hillary Clinton cannot have it both ways: She’s either too brilliant to be as innocent as she asserts or too innocent to be as brilliant as she professes.
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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2016, 07:38:25 AM »

Sad to see so many "progressives" using right-wing talking points and smear tactics against a fellow "progressive," not that I would expect anything less. Never change, Atlas.
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