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« on: February 03, 2016, 11:15:39 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2016, 11:38:16 AM »
« Edited: February 05, 2016, 03:00:40 PM by Dorko Julio »

Sanders: 61%

Hillary: 39%

Let me think about the Reps for a second

Trump: 25%

Rubio: 21%

Cruz: 15%

Kasich: 11%

Christie: 10%

Jeb!: 8%

Fiorina: 6 %

Carson: 4%

Tricky Ricky: 1%

EDITED on 2/5/16 because I think the final margin will now be about 4%, not 3%.
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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2016, 11:39:21 AM »

Democratic Side:
54% Sanders
46% Hillary

Closer than the polls or the pundits predicted.

And I will not predict the GOP side until we get some polling.
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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2016, 11:42:26 AM »

Pubs:

Trump: 27%
Rubio: 18%
Cruz: 16%
Kasich: 12%
Bush: 10%
Christie: 9%
Carson: 6%
Fiorina: 2%

Fiorina, Carson, Christie and Kasich drop out. Leaving the republicans with 4 after NH: Cruz, Rubio, Trump and Bush (He will be gone before super Tuesday)

Dems:

Sanders: 60%
Clinton: 40%

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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2016, 11:44:08 AM »
« Edited: February 03, 2016, 12:22:02 PM by mencken »

Important things to note:
  • Iowa may have demonstrated that Trump's poll numbers may be inflated, but he still leads the field by 20 points
  • New Hampshire isn't a good state for extreme conservatives (a la Cruz), but they still typically get ~20% of the vote in the primaries.
  • Rubio's evangelical postering for Iowa will not play well in New Hampshire (although it might bleed a percent or two away from Cruz.
  • On the other hand, a handful of those Bush and Christie supporters are going to vote strategically, and it won't be for Trump or Cruz.
  • Kasich may be Huntsman 2.0, but Huntsman still got 17% here.
  • On the other hand, Huntsman was lucky enough to have an unopposed Democratic primary.
    (EDIT: On second thought, this is likely to hurt Trump as well as Kasich, as I would bet that a non-insignificant amount of Trump's crossover support is troll votes.)
  • Speaking of Democrats, an incredibly narrow Sanders loss in Iowa might be better at getting his voters to turn out than a decisive Obama victory was in 2008.

Best guess as to how these play out:
Trump 29%
Rubio 23%
Cruz 17%
Kasich 15%
Bush 7%
Christie 5%
All others <2%

Once again, the media will make great hype about how a distant second is actually a victory.

Democrats:
Sanders 56%
Clinton 42%

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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2016, 11:46:19 AM »

Assuming he has some money left, I would think Carson would want to run in SC, if only to then leave having obtained a respectable percentage in some state. I wonder if Jeb will keep going, if his internal polls show him sucking wind in SC.
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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2016, 12:02:19 PM »
« Edited: February 03, 2016, 12:04:27 PM by Major Tom »

Trump: 25%
Rubio: 22%
Cruz: 14%
Bush: 13%
Carson: 11%
Kasich: 10%
Fiorina: 2%
Christie 2%
Santorum: 1%***
Gilmore: 0%***
all the many others: 0% although some of them may drop out, who really knows?

*** Santorum will drop out before March and therefore Carson 12%
*** Gilmore might drop out but doesn't matter

Clinton:    38.5%
Sanders: 61.5%

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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2016, 12:23:31 PM »

Why Christie at 2%? Why Carson at a whopping 11% (which is more than Iowa, his obvious natural home)?
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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2016, 01:27:11 PM »
« Edited: February 03, 2016, 01:29:01 PM by Broken System »

Rubio 25%
Trump 19%
Cruz 17%
Kasich 13%
Bush 7%
Fiorina 6%
Christie 5%
Carson 5%
Santorum 1%
Gilmore 0%

Sanders 60%
Clinton 38%
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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2016, 01:29:38 PM »
« Edited: February 03, 2016, 01:31:59 PM by Oakvale »

I'm not going to predict percentages until we have some non-terrible polls but as a rough order -


1. TRUMP
2. Jeb!
3. Ka$ick
4. Lavenous
5. Cruz
6. Christie
7. Sneed

Carson drops out before the primary.

I have faith in the good people of New Hampshire to defy Roger Alies and the media elite's attempt to rig this for their boy.
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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2016, 01:31:13 PM »

I too will add percentages in a bit, but my extremely early guesswork is:

1. TRUMP
2. Kasich
3. Bush
4. Cruz
5. Rubio
6. Christie
7. Carson
8. Fiorina
9. Santorum
10. Gilmore
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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2016, 01:38:32 PM »

Why Christie at 2%? Why Carson at a whopping 11% (which is more than Iowa, his obvious natural home)?
Well, first of all, I can edit my post between now and then, so I will look at the polls and if they don't agree with me I might, although there is also the margin for error.
Second, I always expect the unexpected and realize that any guess I make is going to be off. I don't have a good track record so far of guessing correctly, but giving the fluidity of this election it is hard to guess accurately. The polls were off vis a vis Trump in Iowa. I guessed Trump and Sanders would win in Iowa, and I was certaintly close about Sanders potential win.

Third, as for your two questions. I could be right about Christie, he is sinking fast. I could be wrong about Carson, but he would be the most likely to beat expectations; on the other hand he could continue to sink and then I would be way off. Perhaps some of Santorum's support and Huckabee's support could go to him. There is also the uncertainty of undecideds and independents. Maybe crazy, but this is a crazy year.
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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2016, 01:48:59 PM »

Carson doesn't have much growing room, unless Cruz collapses, which is extremely unlikely between now and the primary. Carson has a ceiling of 8% on his luckiest day here.
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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2016, 01:53:05 PM »

Why Christie at 2%? Why Carson at a whopping 11% (which is more than Iowa, his obvious natural home)?
Well, first of all, I can edit my post between now and then, so I will look at the polls and if they don't agree with me I might, although there is also the margin for error.
Second, I always expect the unexpected and realize that any guess I make is going to be off. I don't have a good track record so far of guessing correctly, but giving the fluidity of this election it is hard to guess accurately. The polls were off vis a vis Trump in Iowa. I guessed Trump and Sanders would win in Iowa, and I was certaintly close about Sanders potential win.

Third, as for your two questions. I could be right about Christie, he is sinking fast. I could be wrong about Carson, but he would be the most likely to beat expectations; on the other hand he could continue to sink and then I would be way off. Perhaps some of Santorum's support and Huckabee's support could go to him. There is also the uncertainty of undecideds and independents. Maybe crazy, but this is a crazy year.

I mean it is pretty unpredictable - but I will point out that Santorum and Huckabee were both at 1% or 0% in New Hampshire.
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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2016, 01:57:45 PM »

Sanders 59
Clinton 41

Trump 25
Bush 20
Kasich 17
Cruz 13
Rubio 11
Fiorina 7
Christie 5
Carson 2
Santorum 0
Gilmore 0
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« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2016, 02:27:57 PM »

Which candidate will get Santorum's supporters? Will he endorse anyone and will it even matter?
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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2016, 02:34:21 PM »

Democrats:

Bernie feel the Bern Sanders: 56%
Hillary: 43%


Republicans:

Donald Trump: 32%
John Kasich: 15%
Rafael Eduardo Cruz: 14%
Marco Rubio: 14%
¿Jeb?: 10%
Chris Christie: 8%
Ben Carson: 4%
Carly Fiorina: 2%
Jim Gilmore: 0%
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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2016, 02:40:46 PM »

Sanders- 58%
Clinton- 42%

Rubio- 27%
Trump- 20%
Kasich- 16%
Cruz- 13%
Bush- 10%
Christie- 9%
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« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2016, 06:48:42 PM »

Dems:
Sanders 55%
Clinton 45%

GOP (no time to do %):
Trump
Rubio
Cruz
Kaisich
Bush
Fiorina
Carson
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« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2016, 08:36:58 PM »

DEM:
Sanders 54%
Clinton   46%

REP:

Trump   25%
Rubio    23%
Cruz      15%
Kasich   15%
Jeb!      10%
Christie  7%
Fiorina   3%
Carson   2%
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« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2016, 08:44:38 PM »
« Edited: February 03, 2016, 08:50:51 PM by Ronnie »

After reading an article that calls Trump's field operation there into question, I'll be bearish on his numbers in NH:

Trump 28%
Rubio 24%
Cruz 16%
Kasich 10%
Bush 9%
Christie 9%
Carson 2%
Fiorina 2%

Bernie 57%
Hillary 43%
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« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2016, 08:46:43 PM »

DEM:
Sander 58%
Clinton 42%

REP:
Trump 28%
Rubio 23%
Cruz 19%
Bush 11%
Christie 8%
Kasich 7%
Carson 3%
Fiorina 1%
Gilmore 0.0100000000000000!%
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« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2016, 08:47:38 PM »

Bernie - 66%
Hillz - 34%
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« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2016, 08:48:23 PM »

Sanders: 59%
Clinton: 41%

Trump: 27%
Rubio: 23%
Bush: 16%
Cruz: 14%
Kasich: 13%
Christie: 5%
Carson: 1%
Fiorina: .5%
Gilmore: .5%
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« Reply #24 on: February 04, 2016, 10:13:23 AM »
« Edited: February 04, 2016, 01:37:12 PM by Del Tachi »

Democrats:

Sanders - 55%
Clinton - 45%

Republicans

Rubio - 27%
Trump - 26%
Cruz - 15%
Kasich - 10%
Bush - 8%
Christie - 5%
Carson - 3%
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