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« on: February 03, 2016, 09:03:43 PM »

Just reported on MSNBC, full poll tomorrow

Trump 25
Cruz 21
Rubio 21
Carson 11
Jebra 5
Kasich 5
Rand 5
Christie 3
Fiorina 3
Gilmore 1
Santorum 0
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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2016, 09:04:12 PM »

Rubio at 21? Not good, not good.

But GILMOREMENTUM???
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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2016, 09:05:19 PM »

PPP did not do a great job at all projecting the Iowa caucuses; I suspect overcompensation may be at play, especially in light of the fact that other polls like Morning Consult do not appear to project this kind of movement.
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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2016, 09:05:46 PM »

The Trump may be on the verge of getting Stumped
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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2016, 09:06:33 PM »

Rubio at 21? Not good, not good.

But GILMOREMENTUM???

fixed

Seriously, I hope this is true.
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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2016, 09:12:19 PM »

And suddenly the Trump people around here are speechless.

I wonder what one of the lines will be at the next debate. "Wonder why you decided to show up?"
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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2016, 09:13:49 PM »

From TRUMP to trump
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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2016, 09:14:35 PM »

Uh... he's still ahead. And PPP is the kind of poll especially susceptible to swings like this. As long as he wins NH, he'll be fine.
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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2016, 09:14:53 PM »

We'll see what other polls say, but this seems more likely than the Morning Consult poll showing literally no change at all.

Also, lol at Gilmore beating Santorum.
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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2016, 09:15:18 PM »

I am SHOOK.
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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2016, 09:16:17 PM »

GLORIOUS POLL
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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2016, 09:18:41 PM »

Trump 30%
Cruz 30%
Christie 9%
Rubio 8%
Bush 2%
Paul 2%
Kasich 2%
Fiorina 2%
(Carson, Huckabee, Santorum out)

Well I was far off...
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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2016, 09:19:59 PM »

TRUMP
YUGE
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
LOW-ENERGY LOSERS
TRUMP
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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2016, 09:20:58 PM »
« Edited: February 03, 2016, 09:23:03 PM by #TheShadowyAbyss »

If this is the actual poll then the change from last PPP poll is:

Trump -9
Cruz +3
Rubio +8
Carson +5
Bush -2
Rand (out) +3
Christie -2
Fiorina -1
Gilmore +1
Santorum -1
Huckabee -4 (he was at 4%)
Jindal -2 (he was at 2%)
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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2016, 09:21:08 PM »

Abandon ship!
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« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2016, 09:28:52 PM »

If this is the actual poll then the change from last PPP poll is:

Trump -9
Cruz +3
Rubio +8
Carson +5
Bush -2
Rand (out) +3
Christie -2
Fiorina -1
Gilmore +1
Santorum -1
Huckabee -4 (he was at 4%)
Jindal -2 (he was at 2%)


lolwut?
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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2016, 09:33:02 PM »

and so it begins...
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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2016, 09:36:02 PM »

We'll see what other polls say, but this seems more likely than the Morning Consult poll showing literally no change at all.

Also, lol at Gilmore beating Santorum.

Morning Consult show a 3 points drop.  Morning Consult also sucks over all.
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« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2016, 09:37:55 PM »

I wonder where does Rand's 5% go to.
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« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2016, 09:41:13 PM »

PPP didn't do very well in Iowa. Also LOL at Paul finally getting some momentum when he drops out.
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« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2016, 09:41:46 PM »

I wonder where does Rand's 5% go to.

Most to Cruz most likely.
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« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2016, 09:42:06 PM »
« Edited: February 03, 2016, 09:44:59 PM by EliteLX »

What a beautiful, beautiful way to end my night.

Told you Morning Consult (a very average pollster with a history of yuuuuuge inaccuracy and outliers in this cycle's primary polls) was a bunch of fuss.
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« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2016, 09:42:42 PM »

Remember that the supposedly sh**te pollsters were more accurate in Iowa than respected ones such as PPP and Selzer.

Still, this still shows almost 6 in 10 supporting the anti-establishment trio of TRUMP/Cruz/Carson...
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« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2016, 09:44:52 PM »

PPP didn't do very well in Iowa. Also LOL at Paul finally getting some momentum when he drops out.

I think Trump is in decline... but I really don't trust PPPs national polls in particular, their track record is pretty bad.
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« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2016, 09:59:13 PM »

PPP is inaccurate, but the way they are inaccurate is consistent. If one candidate is polling unusually high, they will continue to poll unusually high in every poll.

People theorize that PPP is overcompensating the Trump lead due to their mistakes, but that would be assuming that they are fudging the numbers. So yes, Trump is in decline.

And why is Carson rising? PPP polls show that Carson is the Trump supporters' second choice. Here's an interesting scenario: Trump loses New Hampshire and calls it quits. At this point, Carson would become relevant again.
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