How will Sandernistas react once Clinton gets the nomination?
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Take it easily and support Hillary
 
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Angry, but will support Hillary
 
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Foam at the mouth and rage and then vote Stein
 
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Go into a clinical depression and stay home
 
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Riot and begin the Revolution without Bernie
 
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« Reply #50 on: February 07, 2016, 04:06:56 PM »

I feel like these threads are created to incite drama.
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« Reply #51 on: February 07, 2016, 04:07:02 PM »
« Edited: February 07, 2016, 04:09:16 PM by Averroës »

I will vote for the Democratic nominee, but I would be lying if I didn't admit that certain things about Clinton give me serious pause. I am extremely apprehensive about what she might do if elected, although I know that the Republican Party will not offer me any real choice.

I thought it was extremely telling to see her touting Kissinger's endorsement at the most recent debate, for instance. I've held a low opinion of Clinton throughout my entire adult life, and this primary campaign has only worsened it. I'm bothered by her substantive record, I doubt her integrity, I believe that she is captive to interest groups whose agendas are at odds with those of poor and working class Americans, and I've never been convinced that she shares my values.

It doesn't help that I expect that Clinton will lose unless the Republicans totally sabotage themselves (and she has a strong chance of losing even if they do). I am very pessimistic about November; Clinton's favorability rating is currently about as low as any recent major party nominee - winning or losing - and I do not expect it to improve. I am skeptical about whether she would win a more heavily contested Democratic primary, e.g. if she were facing opponents with broader appeal like Biden, Warren, or Gillibrand. But she locked up so much institutional support prior to early 2015 that Democratic voters were denied that choice, and we may have a historically weak nominee as a result.

My only real hope, in terms of the general election, is that Democrats successfully defend all of their seats in the Senate and House and improve on their abysmal recent results in state-level races.
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« Reply #52 on: February 07, 2016, 04:11:04 PM »

I will vote for the Democratic nominee, but I would be lying if I didn't admit that certain things about Clinton give me serious pause. I am extremely apprehensive about what she might do if elected, although I know that the Republican Party will not offer me any real choice.

I thought it was extremely telling to see her touting Kissinger's endorsement at the most recent debate, for instance. I've held a low opinion of Clinton throughout my entire adult life, and this primary campaign has only worsened it. I'm bothered by her substantive record, I doubt her integrity, I believe that she is captive to interest groups whose agendas are at odds with those of poor and working class Americans, and I've never been convinced that she shares my values.

It doesn't help that I expect that Clinton will lose unless the Republicans totally sabotage themselves (and she has a strong chance of losing even if they do). I am very pessimistic about November; Clinton's favorability rating is currently about as low as any recent major party nominee - winning or losing - and I do not expect it to improve. I am skeptical about whether she would win a more heavily contested Democratic primary, e.g. if she were facing opponents with broader appeal like Biden, Warren, or Gillibrand. But she locked up so much institutional support prior to early 2015 that Democratic voters were denied that choice, and we may have a historically weak nominee as a result.

My only real hope, in terms of the general election, is that Democrats don't lose any additional seats in the Senate and House and improve on their abysmal recent results in state-level races.

If the Democrats lose the White House in November 2016, they'll win the midterms of 2018 (and, quite possibly, flip the U.S. House and/or U.S. Senate) under a Republican president who drives down party support and turns up opposition party motivation (as is typically the case with midterm elections). And if I'm wrong about 2018, that will be because the 2016 Republican presidential pickup winner gets re-elected in 2020 (and that it would be 2022, Year #06, for those Democratic pickups; remember: the House flips from the president's party first).
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« Reply #53 on: February 07, 2016, 04:16:51 PM »

Vote for Jill Stein
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« Reply #54 on: February 07, 2016, 04:44:53 PM »

At least three quarters of them will support Hillary Clinton -the remaining bitter-enders will likely join the Green Party instead. 
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« Reply #55 on: February 07, 2016, 04:47:35 PM »

If the Democrats lose the White House in November 2016, they'll win the midterms of 2018 (and, quite possibly, flip the U.S. House and/or U.S. Senate) under a Republican president who drives down party support and turns up opposition party motivation (as is typically the case with midterm elections). And if I'm wrong about 2018, that will be because the 2016 Republican presidential pickup winner gets re-elected in 2020 (and that it would be 2022, Year #06, for those Democratic pickups; remember: the House flips from the president's party first).

I agree with that logic, but in 2018, Democrats would still working off of a really hostile Senate map, and a massive deficit in the House. If things are going really badly for the GOP, I guess taking back the House would be in the realm of possibility, but in the Senate, the only plausible pickups seem to be Nevada and maybe Arizona, while they'll have to defend Montana, ND, Missouri, etc. (Ofc, the Democrats winning 2016 sets up an absolute bloodbath in the Senate in 2018.)
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« Reply #56 on: February 07, 2016, 04:48:30 PM »

I personally will start at option 2 before shifting to option 1.
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« Reply #57 on: February 07, 2016, 04:50:32 PM »

The Democrats will by and large grumble and then get in line, much the way Hillary supporters did in 2008. The non-Democrats will do a combination of staying home, voting Stein, voting Trump (if he's the nominee) and attempting to disrupt the convention as radicals do.
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« Reply #58 on: February 07, 2016, 05:04:15 PM »

They'll be angry, but they will vote for Hillary. Some of them will vote for Stein or some other socialist.
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« Reply #59 on: February 07, 2016, 05:06:05 PM »

A third will vote for Hillary, a third will vote Green (and possibly try to get Stein to pick Sanders as VP), a third will just stay home.
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« Reply #60 on: February 07, 2016, 07:32:25 PM »

The Democrats will by and large grumble and then get in line, much the way Hillary supporters did in 2008. The non-Democrats will do a combination of staying home, voting Stein, voting Trump (if he's the nominee) and attempting to disrupt the convention as radicals do.

When you get a two-party presidential vote typically 98 or 99 percent, it mathematically looks that way.

If the Democrats lose the White House, with Hillary Clinton as the party's nominee for 2016, it will be in part because she [and the party] didn't hold up the numbers of self-identified Democrats as well as the Republican presidential pickup winners held his party's self-identified supporters.

Typically, with such an occurrence, some centrist Democrats (calling themselves progressives) will go on speaking tours to issue blame for the party's failures on … The Left.
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« Reply #61 on: February 07, 2016, 07:46:21 PM »

Since I don't live in a battleground state, I have the luxury of voting my conscience without fear of effecting the outcome.

I'll vote Stein.
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« Reply #62 on: February 07, 2016, 07:48:43 PM »

A third will vote for Hillary, a third will vote Green (and possibly try to get Stein to pick Sanders as VP), a third will just stay home.

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« Reply #63 on: February 07, 2016, 08:23:48 PM »

For me it depends on whether Clinton and the Dem establishment have shifted to the left in response to the primary. If they do, I won't feel bad at all. (unless it was a superdelegate coronation - in that case I'd be pissed off)
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