Why does Bernie refer to Hillary as "The secretary"?
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« on: February 07, 2016, 09:03:35 AM »
Is it because she's a woman? That's kind of sexist.
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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2016, 09:11:53 AM »
Not sure how serious this is. It's because she was Secretary of State.
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2016, 09:21:29 AM »
Well, because her last post was SoS.

And you cannot refer to her as "First Lady, Senator & SoS".

That would be too long.
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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2016, 09:23:20 AM »
Quote from: Assemblyman Smith (I-MA) on February 07, 2016, 09:11:53 AM
Not sure how serious this is. It's because she was Secretary of State.

Then why doesn't he called her "Secretary of State" Clinton? That's like calling David Cameron "Prime Cameron".

You can't just omit words willy-nilly.
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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2016, 09:29:34 AM »
Quote from: Vox Populi on February 07, 2016, 09:23:20 AM
Quote from: Assemblyman Smith (I-MA) on February 07, 2016, 09:11:53 AM
Not sure how serious this is. It's because she was Secretary of State.

Then why doesn't he called her "Secretary of State" Clinton? That's like calling David Cameron "Prime Cameron".

You can't just omit words willy-nilly.

Please check first if Sanders and other people have referred to John Kerry, Condi Rice etc. as "secretary" or "secretary of state" and then we can talk about it again.
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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2016, 09:30:11 AM »
Quote from: Vox Populi on February 07, 2016, 09:23:20 AM
Quote from: Assemblyman Smith (I-MA) on February 07, 2016, 09:11:53 AM
Not sure how serious this is. It's because she was Secretary of State.

Then why doesn't he called her "Secretary of State" Clinton? That's like calling David Cameron "Prime Cameron".

You can't just omit words willy-nilly.

Comparing apples to oranges. "Secretary of State" can definitely be shortened to "Secretary", as Hillary Clinton was the Secretary of the Department of State.
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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2016, 09:33:37 AM »
What an insanely stupid thread? Thread of the year.

Hello, it's not Bernie it is everyone. The whole media, all the moderators call her Madam Secretary or Secretary Clinton
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« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2016, 09:34:19 AM »
It's the same situation as "Speaker of the House".
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« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2016, 09:37:32 AM »
The point is that secretaries tend to be female jobs. So by referring to Hillary as a secretary, he is implying she should stick to more "woman" roles.
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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2016, 09:39:17 AM »
Quote from: Vox Populi on February 07, 2016, 09:37:32 AM
The point is that secretaries tend to be female jobs. So by referring to Hillary as a secretary, he is implying she should stick to more "woman" roles.

In Obama's current cabinet, male secretaries outnumber female secretaries almost 4 to 1. Where are you trying to go with this?
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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2016, 09:46:27 AM »
Quote from: Assemblyman Smith (I-MA) on February 07, 2016, 09:39:17 AM
Quote from: Vox Populi on February 07, 2016, 09:37:32 AM
The point is that secretaries tend to be female jobs. So by referring to Hillary as a secretary, he is implying she should stick to more "woman" roles.

In Obama's current cabinet, male secretaries outnumber female secretaries almost 4 to 1. Where are you trying to go with this?

96% of secretaries are female.
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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2016, 09:47:10 AM »
Quote from: Vox Populi on February 07, 2016, 09:46:27 AM
Quote from: Assemblyman Smith (I-MA) on February 07, 2016, 09:39:17 AM
Quote from: Vox Populi on February 07, 2016, 09:37:32 AM
The point is that secretaries tend to be female jobs. So by referring to Hillary as a secretary, he is implying she should stick to more "woman" roles.

In Obama's current cabinet, male secretaries outnumber female secretaries almost 4 to 1. Where are you trying to go with this?

96% of secretaries are female.

The definition of 'secretary' you're using and the definition of 'secretary' used in the term "Secretary of State" mean two very different things.
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« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2016, 09:47:37 AM »
This thread has triggered me.
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« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2016, 09:48:19 AM »
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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2016, 09:50:54 AM »
Quote from: Assemblyman Smith (I-MA) on February 07, 2016, 09:47:10 AM
Quote from: Vox Populi on February 07, 2016, 09:46:27 AM
Quote from: Assemblyman Smith (I-MA) on February 07, 2016, 09:39:17 AM
Quote from: Vox Populi on February 07, 2016, 09:37:32 AM
The point is that secretaries tend to be female jobs. So by referring to Hillary as a secretary, he is implying she should stick to more "woman" roles.

In Obama's current cabinet, male secretaries outnumber female secretaries almost 4 to 1. Where are you trying to go with this?

96% of secretaries are female.

The definition of 'secretary' you're using and the definition of 'secretary' used in the term "Secretary of State" mean two very different things.

Bernie just says "secretary" when referring to Clinton. That's no bueno.
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« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2016, 10:34:52 AM »
As Madam Secretary he reaffirms that she is tied to Obama admin.
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« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2016, 10:39:58 AM »
I think it'd be great if we returned to the days where people were recognized by their full titles. The State of the Union, for example, would begin with: "Mr. Congressional Speaker of the House of Representatives of the United States of America, the President of the United States of America Barack Obama, the Second of His Name, King of Illinois, King of the Senate and the Congress and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Regions, Protector of the Realm, Khalesar of the Great Chicago Sea, called Barack "The Rock" Brobama, the Unburnt, Father of Democrats."
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« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2016, 12:19:59 PM »
This is SO lame
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« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2016, 02:51:24 PM »
"Prime Cameron" sounds pretty badass actually.
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« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2016, 02:52:30 PM »
STOP FEEDING THE TROLL
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« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2016, 02:56:48 PM »
It's her highest ranking title.
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« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2016, 02:59:11 PM »

That's sad. Even Carly Fiorina graduated beyond that. You don't see Trump resorting to call her Secretary Fiorina.
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« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2016, 02:19:50 AM »

sounds like something you'd order at a restaurant.
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« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2016, 02:25:47 AM »
Prime Cameron makes him seem like a comic book character. He fights against Labour Party leader Cameron of Earth 3, Nazi Minister of Anglo Affairs Cameron of Earth 10, and Grand Vizer Cameron of the Anglo Caliphate of Earth 69.
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« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2016, 10:33:35 AM »

This. Pretty much standard etiquette.
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