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« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2016, 04:30:26 PM »

Clinton 80%
Sanders 20%

Trump 40%
Cruz 25%
Rubio 20%
Bush 10%
Kasich 4%
Carson 1%
Gilmore 0%
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« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2016, 04:36:58 PM »

Clinton: 80% (+0 from my 1/15 odds)
Sanders: 20% (+0)

Trump: 55% (+10)
Cruz: 40% (+10)
Field: 5% (-20)
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« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2016, 07:43:25 PM »

Deferring to my pre-Iowa calculus:
Just pulling some assumptions out of my rear end:
  • Any candidate that wins both Iowa and New Hampshire has a ~90% chance of being the nominee.
  • The establishment may eventually gets its act together and rally around its most viable candidate.
    • in the event of a Cruz/Trump early state split, odds would be roughly a four-way split between Trump, Cruz, establishment candidate, and some pre-convention deal.
    • In the event of a establishment/Cruz or Trump early state split, odds would be roughly 60-30-10 between Trump or Cruz, establishment candidate, and some pre-convention deal.

That leaves us with roughly:
Trump ~45%
Cruz ~25%
Rubio ~10%
Christie ~10%
Smoke-Filled Room ~5%
Bush ~2%
Kasich ~2%



For the Democrats, I would not be as generous to Bernie should he win both early states; let's say that such an event makes the nomination a 50-40-10 affair between Clinton, Bernie, and a pre-convention deal; splitting the early states gives Clinton a 90% chance, and sweeping the early states gives her a lock. That reduces to:

Clinton ~75%
Sanders ~20%
Smoke-filled Room ~5%


I have significantly lowered Cruz's odds of winning any scenario, along with raising Rubio's odds (given that with his dubious third place finish in Iowa he can duel with any of the Bush/Christie/Kasich trifecta for the establishment mantle if any of them place in New Hampshire.) That leaves me with roughly this:

Rubio ~30%
Cruz ~25%
Trump ~20%
Smoke-Filled Room 15%
Kasich ~5%
Bush ~3%

Christie ~2%

Democratic odds remain unaffected since the Iowa outcome was essentially Schrodinger's election.

Update:
Trump 2:1
Cruz 3:1
Smoke-Filled Room 5:1
Rubio 6:1
Kasich 14:1
Bush 25:1
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« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2016, 07:46:34 PM »

Clinton 65
Sanders 35

Cruz 45
TRUMP 40
Rubio 10
Brokered Convention 5
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« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2016, 09:16:25 PM »

REP: Toss-up/Tilt Trump
Trump 35%
Cruz 30%
Rubio 18%
Kasich 10%
Christie 5%
Bush 2%

DEM: Likely Clinton
Clinton 80%
Sanders 20%


Post-NH update:

REP: Lean Trump
Trump 45%
Cruz 30%
Rubio/Bush/Kasich 20%
Other (brokered convention?) 5%

DEM: Likely Clinton
Clinton 75%
Sanders 25%
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« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2016, 11:13:29 PM »

Clinton 65
Sanders 35

Cruz 45
TRUMP 40
Rubio 10
Brokered Convention 5

Hey, you're actually giving Bernie better and Trump worse odds than I do? Huh
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« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2016, 11:19:28 PM »

DEM:
Sanders 50
Clinton 50

REP:
Trump 45
Kasich 15
Rubio 15
Cruz 10
Bush 10
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« Reply #32 on: February 21, 2016, 02:05:53 PM »

Clinton: 85% (+5)
Sanders: 15% (-5)

Trump: 75% (+5)
Rubio: 15% (+10)
Cruz: 10% (-10)
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« Reply #33 on: February 21, 2016, 02:06:57 PM »

95% Clinton
5% Sanders

90% Trump
5% Rubio
2% Kasich
1% Cruz
2% Convention
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« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2016, 02:08:28 PM »

Hillary 98%
Hillary Dies, Replaced at convention 2%

TRUMP 85%
Rubio 12%
Cruz 3%
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« Reply #35 on: February 21, 2016, 02:15:16 PM »

Clinton 65
Sanders 35

Cruz 45
TRUMP 40
Rubio 10
Brokered Convention 5

Update following yesterday's failed stumpings on both sides:

Clinton 90
Sanders 5
Other 5

TRUMP 60
Rubio 35
Other 5
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« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2016, 02:25:55 PM »

Dem:

80% Hillary
20% Bernie


GOP:

35% Trump
30% Cruz
10% Rubio
8% Christie
7% Kasich
5% Bush
5% Someone else

Dem:

75% Hillary
25% Bernie


GOP:

55% Trump
25% Cruz
10% Kasich
5% Bush
5% Someone else

Dem:

90% Hillary
10% Bernie


GOP:

70% Trump
20% Rubio
5% Cruz
5% Someone else
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« Reply #37 on: February 21, 2016, 02:27:47 PM »

Clinton: 90%
Bernie: 10%


Trump: 90%
Rubio: 2%
Kasich: 2%
Cruz: 2%
Convention: 4%
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« Reply #38 on: February 21, 2016, 02:41:16 PM »

DEM:
Clinton 80%
Sanders 20%

REP:
Rubio 99%
trump 0.9%
"field" 0.1%
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« Reply #39 on: February 21, 2016, 03:04:38 PM »

Democratic Nomination:

Clinton - 90%
Sanders - 10%



Republican Nomination:

Trump - 40%
Rubio - 40%
Cruz - 10%
Kasich - 10%
Carson - 0%



Chances in General Election (if nominated)Sad

Clinton - 65%
Rubio - 55%
Kasich - 55%
Sanders - 50%
Trump - 20%
Cruz - 10%
Carson - 10%

Chances at Being Next President (Nomination Chances x GE Chances)Sad

Clinton - 58.5%
Rubio - 22%
Trump - 8%
Kasich - 5.5%
Sanders - 5%
Cruz - 1%
Carson - 0%



Party of Next President:

Democrat - 63.5%
Republican - 36.5%
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« Reply #40 on: February 21, 2016, 03:26:10 PM »

Deferring to my pre-Iowa calculus:
Just pulling some assumptions out of my rear end:
  • Any candidate that wins both Iowa and New Hampshire has a ~90% chance of being the nominee.
  • The establishment may eventually gets its act together and rally around its most viable candidate.
    • in the event of a Cruz/Trump early state split, odds would be roughly a four-way split between Trump, Cruz, establishment candidate, and some pre-convention deal.
    • In the event of a establishment/Cruz or Trump early state split, odds would be roughly 60-30-10 between Trump or Cruz, establishment candidate, and some pre-convention deal.

That leaves us with roughly:
Trump ~45%
Cruz ~25%
Rubio ~10%
Christie ~10%
Smoke-Filled Room ~5%
Bush ~2%
Kasich ~2%



For the Democrats, I would not be as generous to Bernie should he win both early states; let's say that such an event makes the nomination a 50-40-10 affair between Clinton, Bernie, and a pre-convention deal; splitting the early states gives Clinton a 90% chance, and sweeping the early states gives her a lock. That reduces to:

Clinton ~75%
Sanders ~20%
Smoke-filled Room ~5%


I have significantly lowered Cruz's odds of winning any scenario, along with raising Rubio's odds (given that with his dubious third place finish in Iowa he can duel with any of the Bush/Christie/Kasich trifecta for the establishment mantle if any of them place in New Hampshire.) That leaves me with roughly this:

Rubio ~30%
Cruz ~25%
Trump ~20%
Smoke-Filled Room 15%
Kasich ~5%
Bush ~3%

Christie ~2%

Democratic odds remain unaffected since the Iowa outcome was essentially Schrodinger's election.

Update:
Trump 2:1
Cruz 3:1
Smoke-Filled Room 5:1
Rubio 6:1
Kasich 14:1
Bush 25:1


Democrats:
Clinton 1:6
Smoke-Filled Room 9:1

Sanders 19:1

Republicans:
Trump 2.5:1
Rubio 3:1

Smoke-Filled Room 5:1
Cruz 9:1
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« Reply #41 on: February 21, 2016, 09:00:51 PM »

KING TRUMP 46
Rubio 25
Cruz 20
Kasich 8
Carson 1

Clinton 87
Sanders 13
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« Reply #42 on: February 21, 2016, 09:21:00 PM »

Rubio 60
Trump 25
Cruz 10
Other 5 (likely Romney or Ryan)

Clinton 98
Sanders 1
Other 1
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« Reply #43 on: February 22, 2016, 01:55:43 AM »

Trump 45
Rubio 30
Cruz 20
Kasich 4
Carson 1

Clinton 80
Sanders 20
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« Reply #44 on: February 22, 2016, 01:58:26 AM »

Trump 50
Rubio 30
Cruz 19
Kasich 1

Clinton 85
Sanders 15
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« Reply #45 on: February 24, 2016, 05:28:51 PM »

Post-Nevada

Trump: 80% (+5)
Rubio: 12% (-3)
Cruz: 8% (-2)
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« Reply #46 on: February 24, 2016, 05:30:43 PM »

Post Nevada:

Rubio- 55%
Trump- 30%
Ryan/Other- 10%
Cruz- 5%
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« Reply #47 on: February 24, 2016, 05:36:16 PM »

Post-Nevada

93% Trump
2% Rubio
2% Kasich
1% Cruz
2% WTF BROKERED CONVENTION
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« Reply #48 on: February 24, 2016, 05:41:25 PM »

at this point
85% clinton
15% sanders

75% trump
15% rubio
5% cruz
5% ?
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« Reply #49 on: February 24, 2016, 06:47:02 PM »

62 % Clinton
35 % Sanders
3 % Other (Clinton indicted late on)

92.7 % Trump
4.4 % Rubio
0.8 % Cruz
0.2 % Kasich
1.9 % Brokered Convention
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