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« on: February 09, 2016, 12:58:42 PM »
« edited: February 09, 2016, 01:00:18 PM by ChanDan »

Candidates must meet one of the following criteria:

1) Place among the top five candidates ranked according to the popular vote in the New Hampshire Republican primary on Feb. 9, 2016;

2) have placed among the top three candidates ranked according to the popular vote in the Iowa Republican caucuses on Feb. 2, 2016;

3) place among the top five candidates in an average of national and South Carolina Republican presidential polls conducted over a four-week period starting on Jan. 15, 2016 and recognized by CBS News; and receive a minimum of 3 percent in the Iowa, New Hampshire results or the South Carolina or national polls. To be included, polls must be conducted and released to the public before 12 p.m. ET on Feb. 12, 2016.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/criteria-for-cbs-news-republican-debate/

So this means Trump, Cruz, and Rubio are definitely in. Kasich and Bush are probably in. Ben Carson might be in if he doesn't collapse in South Carolina after tonight. But Christie could very well be out? Fiorina and Gilmore, screwed once again.
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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2016, 01:11:35 PM »

Looks like Ms. Fiorina got a bit ahead of herself on twitter earlier today:

https://twitter.com/CarlyFiorina/status/697084563139358720


So Cruz, Trump, and Rubio are automatically in for their Iowa finishes. Kasich and Bush are likely to join them after NH so unless Carly/Christie/Carson surge in SC polling, they are likely out.
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2016, 01:19:18 PM »

Carson should be good. He's in fifth in SC with around 9%, and over 6 points clear of Christie.
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2016, 01:30:20 PM »
« Edited: February 09, 2016, 01:33:55 PM by darthpi »

"place among the top five candidates in an average of national and South Carolina Republican presidential polls"

I don't understand what this means. Do they mean top five in either the national average OR the South Carolina average, or do they actually mean that they are going to average the national AND South Carolina polls together? If it is the latter, then that is absurd.

Edit: I suppose they could also mean top five in both averages individually, rather than either/or.
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2016, 01:48:10 PM »

"place among the top five candidates in an average of national and South Carolina Republican presidential polls"

I don't understand what this means. Do they mean top five in either the national average OR the South Carolina average, or do they actually mean that they are going to average the national AND South Carolina polls together? If it is the latter, then that is absurd.

Edit: I suppose they could also mean top five in both averages individually, rather than either/or.

Sounds like they are averaging them together.  It's a bit weird, especially if there happen to be more national than South Carolina polls.  Maybe they average the averages?
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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2016, 01:49:26 PM »

Good, iCarly can stay home that day
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2016, 01:57:39 PM »

Candidates must meet one of the following criteria:

1) Place among the top five candidates ranked according to the popular vote in the New Hampshire Republican primary on Feb. 9, 2016;

2) have placed among the top three candidates ranked according to the popular vote in the Iowa Republican caucuses on Feb. 2, 2016;

3) place among the top five candidates in an average of national and South Carolina Republican presidential polls conducted over a four-week period starting on Jan. 15, 2016 and recognized by CBS News; and receive a minimum of 3 percent in the Iowa, New Hampshire results or the South Carolina or national polls. To be included, polls must be conducted and released to the public before 12 p.m. ET on Feb. 12, 2016.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/criteria-for-cbs-news-republican-debate/

So this means Trump, Cruz, and Rubio are definitely in. Kasich and Bush are probably in. Ben Carson might be in if he doesn't collapse in South Carolina after tonight. But Christie could very well be out? Fiorina and Gilmore, screwed once again.

If I correctly undestand, they will include candidates who got >3% in NH. So I think Christie, Fiorina and Carson are pretty safe.
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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2016, 02:02:55 PM »

Candidates must meet one of the following criteria:

1) Place among the top five candidates ranked according to the popular vote in the New Hampshire Republican primary on Feb. 9, 2016;

2) have placed among the top three candidates ranked according to the popular vote in the Iowa Republican caucuses on Feb. 2, 2016;

3) place among the top five candidates in an average of national and South Carolina Republican presidential polls conducted over a four-week period starting on Jan. 15, 2016 and recognized by CBS News; and receive a minimum of 3 percent in the Iowa, New Hampshire results or the South Carolina or national polls. To be included, polls must be conducted and released to the public before 12 p.m. ET on Feb. 12, 2016.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/criteria-for-cbs-news-republican-debate/

So this means Trump, Cruz, and Rubio are definitely in. Kasich and Bush are probably in. Ben Carson might be in if he doesn't collapse in South Carolina after tonight. But Christie could very well be out? Fiorina and Gilmore, screwed once again.

If I correctly undestand, they will include candidates who got >3% in NH. So I think Christie, Fiorina and Carson are pretty safe.

It sounds like a candidate needs to be top 5 in the poll average AND get >3% in NH or Iowa or those polls.  So getting 3% alone won't cut it, nor would being 5th in the poll average if you don't get over 3% in NH, Iowa or the polls.  That would exclude Gilmore if all but 4 candidates drop out.
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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2016, 02:04:28 PM »

p ^ q here so you have to get top 5 in polling and >3% in NH
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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2016, 09:23:55 PM »

So it'll be Trump Cruz, Rubio, Kasich, Bush and THAT FACE if I get this right.

Poor Carson.
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« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2016, 10:20:04 PM »

So:

IA Top 3: Cruz, Trump, Rubio
NH Top 5 not in IA Top 3: Kasich, Jebra

Alternative method:

Part 1: Get 3% in IA, NH, SC Polls OR National Polls (Gilmore Eliminated)
Part 2: Top five nationally and in South Carolina (Fiorina, Christie Eliminated)

Carson qualifies, he is 4th nationally and 5th in SC per RCP
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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2016, 10:30:07 PM »

Less candidates thank god
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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2016, 12:28:58 AM »

More simply put, since many don't seem to understand, these are the criteria.


Fulfill one of the following three criteria:

1. Finish in the top 3 in Iowa.

2. Finish in the top 5 in New Hampshire.

3. Poll in the top 5 in South Carolina and fulfill one of the following four sub-criteria:
a. Poll 3% or higher nationally.
b. Finish 3% or higher in Iowa.
c. Finish 3% or higher in New Hampshire.
d. Poll 3% or higher in South Carolina.

Making the contenders:
Trump (1, 2, 3a, 3b, 3c, 3d)
Rubio (1, 2, 3a, 3b, 3c, 3d)
Cruz (1, 2, 3a, 3b, 3c, 3d)
Bush (2, 3a, 3c, 3d)
Carson (3a, 3b, 3d)
Kasich (2)
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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2016, 01:11:15 AM »

More simply put, since many don't seem to understand, these are the criteria.


Fulfill one of the following three criteria:

1. Finish in the top 3 in Iowa.

2. Finish in the top 5 in New Hampshire.

3. Poll in the top 5 in South Carolina and fulfill one of the following four sub-criteria:
a. Poll 3% or higher nationally.
b. Finish 3% or higher in Iowa.
c. Finish 3% or higher in New Hampshire.
d. Poll 3% or higher in South Carolina.

Making the contenders:
Trump (1, 2, 3a, 3b, 3c, 3d)
Rubio (1, 2, 3a, 3b, 3c, 3d)
Cruz (1, 2, 3a, 3b, 3c, 3d)
Bush (2, 3a, 3c, 3d)
Carson (3a, 3b, 3d)
Kasich (2)

Option three is poll in the top 5 in an average of national and South Carolina polls and fulfill one of a-d.  It's not just South Carolina polls that will be taken into account.
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« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2016, 01:15:33 AM »

lol Ben Carson just gonna keep showing up to debates (and siphoning just enough evangelicals from Cruz so TRUMP wins South Carolina, wow!).
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« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2016, 01:18:32 AM »

These criteria are waaaay too complicated. Should have been simple like "won a delegate in IA or NH" or just top 5 in IA or NH.    .
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« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2016, 01:21:36 AM »

These criteria are waaaay too complicated. Should have been simple like "won a delegate in IA or NH" or just top 5 in IA or NH.    .

No. Fiorina participation will not be tolerated.
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« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2016, 01:22:19 AM »

These criteria are waaaay too complicated. Should have been simple like "won a delegate in IA or NH" or just top 5 in IA or NH.    .

With the latter of those, they'd have to battle accusations of racism, as it would exclude Carson.
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« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2016, 01:27:49 AM »

These criteria are waaaay too complicated. Should have been simple like "won a delegate in IA or NH" or just top 5 in IA or NH.    .

With the latter of those, they'd have to battle accusations of racism, as it would exclude Carson.

Carson was 4th in IA and won delegates.   
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« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2016, 01:29:41 AM »

We're at the point now where networks don't have to be all careful and avoid stepping on candidates' toes. They could just say "you all are in, and the rest of you losers aren't viable - bye". There are five candidates remaining. At most, there were 6 before tonight.

These criteria are waaaay too complicated. Should have been simple like "won a delegate in IA or NH" or just top 5 in IA or NH.    .

With the latter of those, they'd have to battle accusations of racism, as it would exclude Carson.

Meh, they already shut the woman out of the process. This is the next logical step; I think everybody knew that once the GOP had its foray into "see we're totally not racist and no, we didn't hate Obama for his skin color - we're supporting the black guy" and got it out of its system, that we'd end up with an all-white, all-male field. It's just the "marketplace of ideas" in the GOP at work!
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« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2016, 02:04:48 AM »

More simply put, since many don't seem to understand, these are the criteria.


Fulfill one of the following three criteria:

1. Finish in the top 3 in Iowa.

2. Finish in the top 5 in New Hampshire.

3. Poll in the top 5 in South Carolina and fulfill one of the following four sub-criteria:
a. Poll 3% or higher nationally.
b. Finish 3% or higher in Iowa.
c. Finish 3% or higher in New Hampshire.
d. Poll 3% or higher in South Carolina.

Making the contenders:
Trump (1, 2, 3a, 3b, 3c, 3d)
Rubio (1, 2, 3a, 3b, 3c, 3d)
Cruz (1, 2, 3a, 3b, 3c, 3d)
Bush (2, 3a, 3c, 3d)
Carson (3a, 3b, 3d)
Kasich (2)

Option three is poll in the top 5 in an average of national and South Carolina polls and fulfill one of a-d.  It's not just South Carolina polls that will be taken into account.

Yes, I missed the national part.

Fulfill one of the following three criteria:

1. Finish in the top 3 in Iowa.

2. Finish in the top 5 in New Hampshire.

3. Poll in the top 5 in a mix of South Carolina and national polls and fulfill one of the following four sub-criteria:
a. Poll 3% or higher nationally.
b. Finish 3% or higher in Iowa.
c. Finish 3% or higher in New Hampshire.
d. Poll 3% or higher in South Carolina.

Making the contenders:
Trump (1, 2, 3a, 3b, 3c, 3d)
Rubio (1, 2, 3a, 3b, 3c, 3d)
Cruz (1, 2, 3a, 3b, 3c, 3d)
Bush (2, 3a, 3c, 3d)
Carson (3a, 3b, 3d)
Kasich (2)
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« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2016, 10:22:14 AM »

So no Christie, iSneed or Gilmore?
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« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2016, 12:36:36 PM »

Next debate will be these 6 i guess:

Trump
Cruz
Rubio
Kasich
Bush
Carson (zzzzzzzzz)
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