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« on: February 10, 2016, 06:46:34 PM »

And just since the polls closed less than 24 hours ago, he's raised well over $6 million.

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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2016, 07:23:25 PM »

And he won the female vote.  ROFL at TN Vol.
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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2016, 07:29:26 PM »

And he won the female vote.  ROFL at TN Vol.
Tn Vol was likely trolling.
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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2016, 07:34:07 PM »


Well yeah, that's all he really does.  Does it make it any less annoying?
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« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2016, 07:34:23 PM »
« Edited: February 10, 2016, 07:36:20 PM by TN volunteer »


Here's my theory on where things stand in NH: I feel like the only way Sanders can win NH is if enough Democrats, err, Independents and angry women troll the GOP primary and vote for Trump or Cruz to make Hillary well-positioned for the general election. There will be a strong correlation between Sanders' and Trump's margin: The bigger Sanders' margin is (the fewer women vote for Clinton), the better Trump will do (because NH women have decided to troll the GOP primary). If Clinton wins NH (because of record-high women turnout), Trump will underperform massively. So this whole thing is going to come down to one question: What will be more important for NH Democrats/women/young voters: Voting against a black man or trolling the GOP primary?
There's no way that NH would vote for a man over a woman under normal circumstances, but those aren't normal circumstances by any means.

And he won the female vote.  ROFL at TN Vol.

He still lost angry women by a massive margin, though. And NH is still a solid blue state. Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2016, 07:40:30 PM »


Here's my theory on where things stand in NH: I feel like the only way Sanders can win NH is if enough Democrats, err, Independents and angry women troll the GOP primary and vote for Trump or Cruz to make Hillary well-positioned for the general election. There will be a strong correlation between Sanders' and Trump's margin: The bigger Sanders' margin is (the fewer women vote for Clinton), the better Trump will do (because NH women have decided to troll the GOP primary). If Clinton wins NH (because of record-high women turnout), Trump will underperform massively. So this whole thing is going to come down to one question: What will be more important for NH Democrats/women/young voters: Voting against a black man or trolling the GOP primary?
There's no way that NH would vote for a man over a woman under normal circumstances, but those aren't normal circumstances by any means.

And he won the female vote.  ROFL at TN Vol.

He still lost angry women by a massive margin, though. And NH is still a solid blue state. Smiley

More people voted in the GOP primary than the Democratic one.
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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2016, 08:17:04 PM »

Looks like it was around $6.5 million at the 24 hours since polls closed (8 PM ET) mark.
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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2016, 08:42:02 PM »


Here's my theory on where things stand in NH: I feel like the only way Sanders can win NH is if enough Democrats, err, Independents and angry women troll the GOP primary and vote for Trump or Cruz to make Hillary well-positioned for the general election. There will be a strong correlation between Sanders' and Trump's margin: The bigger Sanders' margin is (the fewer women vote for Clinton), the better Trump will do (because NH women have decided to troll the GOP primary). If Clinton wins NH (because of record-high women turnout), Trump will underperform massively. So this whole thing is going to come down to one question: What will be more important for NH Democrats/women/young voters: Voting against a black man or trolling the GOP primary?
There's no way that NH would vote for a man over a woman under normal circumstances, but those aren't normal circumstances by any means.

And he won the female vote.  ROFL at TN Vol.

He still lost angry women by a massive margin, though. And NH is still a solid blue state. Smiley

More people voted in the GOP primary than the Democratic one.

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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2016, 09:21:04 PM »

Clinton surely felt the Bern last night.
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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2016, 09:21:32 PM »

As did all those women in hell for supporting Sanders.
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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2016, 09:28:29 PM »

When the money keeps rollin in
what's a boy to do?
Cream a little off the top
for expenses wouldn't you?

Nothing but crass speculation, but I can't help but think that some of that cash will end up in a personal account.
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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2016, 10:18:03 PM »


Here's my theory on where things stand in NH: I feel like the only way Sanders can win NH is if enough Democrats, err, Independents and angry women troll the GOP primary and vote for Trump or Cruz to make Hillary well-positioned for the general election. There will be a strong correlation between Sanders' and Trump's margin: The bigger Sanders' margin is (the fewer women vote for Clinton), the better Trump will do (because NH women have decided to troll the GOP primary). If Clinton wins NH (because of record-high women turnout), Trump will underperform massively. So this whole thing is going to come down to one question: What will be more important for NH Democrats/women/young voters: Voting against a black man or trolling the GOP primary?
There's no way that NH would vote for a man over a woman under normal circumstances, but those aren't normal circumstances by any means.

And he won the female vote.  ROFL at TN Vol.

He still lost angry women by a massive margin, though. And NH is still a solid blue state. Smiley

More people voted in the GOP primary than the Democratic one.

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...  Okay?

Not saying it's a red state.  Not even saying it's a toss-up.  However, it is not a solid D state, period.  The fact I pointed out, along with the split Senate and House delegation, close national margins and state legislatures prove that.
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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2016, 11:24:23 PM »

Beautiful indeed! "60% for Bernie" is going to be a nice talking point for the media.

On the minus side, that means I'm only getting 1 point for my prediction. Tongue
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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2016, 11:39:21 PM »

Analysis:

Angry women (26%): Hillary Clinton 78%, Bernie Sanders 21%
Young voters (19%): Bernie Sanders 83%, Hillary Clinton 16%
Others (55%): Bernie Sanders 69%, Hillary Clinton 29%

Final result: Bernie Sanders 60%, Hillary Clinton 38%

Too many angry NH women voted in the Republican primary. Clinton needed at least 33% angry women to vote in the Democratic primary and a 85-15 margin with this group to stand a chance. Didn't happen. Sanders dominated her among young voters and men.
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« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2016, 01:25:04 AM »

Is anyone surprised that Bernie's best county (the only one where he broke 70%) ended up being Cheshire? My money was on Grafton: it's more rural, more to the Northern and "Vermont-ish". It also was the strongest county for Bradley, Dean and Obama.
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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2016, 01:35:42 AM »

I'm hearing that this is the largest margin of victory of any non incumbent Democrat in the NH primary.  Dukakis winning by 16 points was 2nd place. It also beats the incumbent's victories in 1968 and 1980.  No one ever won the Democratic NH primary by double digits and failed to get the nomination. Of course we're not going to take anything for granted, it will be a long hard primary fight.
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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2016, 02:06:53 AM »

I'm hearing that this is the largest margin of victory of any non incumbent Democrat in the NH primary.  Dukakis winning by 16 points was 2nd place. It also beats the incumbent's victories in 1968 and 1980.  No one ever won the Democratic NH primary by double digits and failed to get the nomination. Of course we're not going to take anything for granted, it will be a long hard primary fight.

Among registered Democrats they were tied.

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/opinion/among-registered-democrats-hillary-clinton-and-bernie-sanders-finished-tied-in-new-hampshire/23800/
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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2016, 03:20:27 AM »

I'm hearing that this is the largest margin of victory of any non incumbent Democrat in the NH primary.  Dukakis winning by 16 points was 2nd place. It also beats the incumbent's victories in 1968 and 1980.  No one ever won the Democratic NH primary by double digits and failed to get the nomination. Of course we're not going to take anything for granted, it will be a long hard primary fight.

Among registered Democrats they were tied.

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/opinion/among-registered-democrats-hillary-clinton-and-bernie-sanders-finished-tied-in-new-hampshire/23800/

I think Hillary won registered Democrats in the 2008 primaries.
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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2016, 04:40:55 AM »
« Edited: February 11, 2016, 04:44:26 AM by Ronnie »

And yet, Hillary and Bernie are effectively tied in delegates from the state, factoring in superdelegates.

Chances are Bernie's wasting his time, in terms of being able to surmount Hillary for the nomination, but he's giving her some necessary training so that she won't be rusty when she has to deal with the Republican nominee.
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« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2016, 05:18:22 AM »

And just since the polls closed less than 24 hours ago, he's raised well over $6 million.



What about getting a new goal? Lazy campaign.
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