PBS Milwaukee, WI Democratic debate @9pm ET **live commentary thread**

[DrScholl]

From what I've heard Sanders doesn't have many political friends period. Is there anyone in the Senate that is an ally of his?

[Blue3]

So, Sanders doesn't think Nixon should have gone to China?

He wants no trade or diplomatic relations with China?

[The Other Castro]

From what I've heard Sanders doesn't have many political friends period. Is there anyone in the Senate that is an ally of his?

C'mon man is this the best you can do now?

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From what I've heard Sanders doesn't have many political friends period. Is there anyone in the Senate that is an ally of his?

Depends. What do you define as 'ally'? Do you mean a political ally, or just a friend in general? Because I don't think he's hated as much as Cruz.

[Lyin' Steve]

Sanders is nuts.
Yes, Kissinger made some bad bets in Vietnam.  There were a lot of tough decisions to make back then, and he made a lot of good bets too.
Dude also negotiated the Paris Peace Accords that ended the Vietnam war.
But Kissinger did tons of good things.  And he was very effective at orchestrating a complex international strategy and building a coalition to defeat the Soviet Union, the crowning jewel of which was winning China, the "Elizabeth Warren endorsement" of the Cold War.

[DrScholl]

From what I've heard Sanders doesn't have many political friends period. Is there anyone in the Senate that is an ally of his?

C'mon man is this the best you can do now?

If you don't have people you can work with rationally, how can you expect to be an effective President?

[angus]

Kissinger is a big name, easy to demonize.  By the way, Romney also could be paraphrased as saying "count me as one who will not be listening to Kissinger" and he did win his party's nomination.

I think we're generally bigoted toward China, so on this I disagree with both major parties, but if history is any indication, Sanders' statement about Kissinger does not doom his campaign.  In fact, anti-Chinese bigotry seems to be fashionable among Americans of all stripes.  

[Lyin' Steve]

Sanders needs to stop wagging his finger.  Very irritating.

[Beet]

Kissinger is a big name, easy to demonize.  By the way, Romney also could be paraphrased as saying "count me as one who will not be listening to Kissinger" and he did win his party's nomination.

I think we're generally bigoted toward China, so on this I disagree with both major parties, but if history is any indication, Sanders' statement about Kissinger does not doom his campaign.  In fact, anti-Chinese bigotry seems to be fashionable among Americans of all stripes.  

Well, except for most Chinese Americans.

[Bigby]

Sanders needs to stop wagging his finger.  Very irritating.

But that's where he sucks his power out of Hillary's campaign!

[Comrade Funk]

Kissinger is a big name, easy to demonize.  By the way, Romney also could be paraphrased as saying "count me as one who will not be listening to Kissinger" and he did win his party's nomination.

I think we're generally bigoted toward China, so on this I disagree with both major parties, but if history is any indication, Sanders' statement about Kissinger does not doom his campaign.  In fact, anti-Chinese bigotry seems to be fashionable among Americans of all stripes. 

Well, except for most Chinese Americans.

Chinese American =/= Chinese government....

[Beet]

Kissinger is a big name, easy to demonize.  By the way, Romney also could be paraphrased as saying "count me as one who will not be listening to Kissinger" and he did win his party's nomination.

I think we're generally bigoted toward China, so on this I disagree with both major parties, but if history is any indication, Sanders' statement about Kissinger does not doom his campaign.  In fact, anti-Chinese bigotry seems to be fashionable among Americans of all stripes. 

Well, except for most Chinese Americans.

Chinese American =/= Chinese government....

What? I never said we were. I wish the government would be overthrown. But I and most Chinese Americans I know aren't favorable towards anti-Chinese bigotry.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Yay for FDR!

[Pyro]

Calling back to FDR is the smartest thing Sanders could do there.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

So is Sanders still winning this thing?

[angus]

"Turkey did a decent thing."

Indeed.  

Here's where Sanders is weak.  Unlike Clinton, who studies at least ten polls before making any statement, Sanders speaks from the heart.  Crazy shit.  I'd like to think we are, but I doubt we are, ready for a statesman who actually speaks truth.  This sort of schtick may be his undoing.

[DrScholl]

Sanders turned a foreign policy question into one about economics.

[jaichind]

But nothing of what Sanders says about FDR is about foreign policy.  The question is about foreign policy principles.

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So is Sanders still winning this thing?

Yes, and it isn't very close either.

[The Free North]

Sanders likes FDR and CHURCHILL?

Wow, thats a bit out in right field.

Considering the tremendous conservatism Churchill represented, thats a bit odd.

[Joe Republic]

Hillary: (Churchill, eh?  Okay, lemme just shore up the black vote real quick here...) "Nelson Mandela!"

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But nothing of what Sanders says about FDR is about foreign policy.  The question is about foreign policy principles.

He did mention World War 2 at the end with Churchill. He clearly meant the same with FDR.

[Pyro]

Clinton: "C'mon Sanders! Say you don't like Obama! Please??"

[The Other Castro]

Clinton uses question of foreign policy heroes to attack Sanders on Obama. And people wonder why her approvals are low...

[Beet]

Kissinger is a big name, easy to demonize.  By the way, Romney also could be paraphrased as saying "count me as one who will not be listening to Kissinger" and he did win his party's nomination.

I think we're generally bigoted toward China, so on this I disagree with both major parties, but if history is any indication, Sanders' statement about Kissinger does not doom his campaign.  In fact, anti-Chinese bigotry seems to be fashionable among Americans of all stripes. 

Well, except for most Chinese Americans.

Chinese American =/= Chinese government....

What? I never said we were. I wish the government would be overthrown. But I and most Chinese Americans I know aren't favorable towards anti-Chinese bigotry.

Well, let's say China was a democratic state. Would there still be as much bigotry against them? Maybe, but probably not. Part of the attack on them is on trade and political issues.

There was bigotry against Japan on trade issues and it was democratic at the time. Hopefully it'll die down as China's economy starts faltering, as with Japan. But still not a fan of Bernie's engagement with it. Especially since he seems to have good judgement on foreign policy in general.