Should super delegates be abolished?

[ElectionsGuy]

Yes. Let's get rid of something that rigs the game for the establishment and undermines democracy.

[Oakvale]

The point of superdelegates is to recognise democracy's not a good thing if it leads to candidates like Sanders. There's a reason they were brought in after the '72 disaster.

[MaxQue]

The point of superdelegates is to recognise democracy's not a good thing if it leads to candidates like Sanders. There's a reason they were brought in after the '72 disaster.

Except they were brought in 1984. Which was also a disaster.

[Beet]

If they really wanted to make it democratic, they would have made all 4 early states primaries that vote on the same day, and change them up on a random basis every cycle, or would make it a national primary.

[Shadows]

Super delegates always switch n i guarantee there will be many switches if Sanders does well.

I hope Sanders abolishes it working with the party if he can be President. Beyond stupid n stupid of ppl to even justify this sh**t

[The Other Castro]

It's a stupid concept but I'm not worried about its role in the primaries. If we get to the point where Sanders is clearly the candidate of the people (winning a solid majority of pledged delegates) and the only way Clinton can win is by superdelegates, she's not going to win. There's no way they would deny Sanders what was a clear victory and risk breaking the party in half, not to mention guaranteeing a loss in the general. Superdelegates seem like more of a tool used to show which party members support which candidates with little practical use.

[7,052,770]

Of course they should, but only if caucuses and the ridiculous schedule are abolished too.

[Angel of Death]

It probably won't ever be necessary in practice, but it might be a good idea to make it an official rule that superdelegates only get a vote if no candidate gets a majority of pledged delegates.

[Lief 🗽]

Berniebots crying about democracy when it comes to superdelegates, but don't seem to mind that the first two states are lily white electorates, one of which is a caucus that disenfranchises plenty of voters.

[Gass3268]

Berniebots crying about democracy when it comes to superdelegates, but don't seem to mind that the first two states are lily white electorates, one of which is a caucus that disenfranchises plenty of voters.

This Sanders supporter does not support the way things are. There needs to be fundamental changes to our nomination system. No more superdelgates, caucuses, very white states going first, etc.

[indysaff]

Yes, definitely

Also, I fully agree with this:

If they really wanted to make it democratic, they would have made all 4 early states primaries that vote on the same day, and change them up on a random basis every cycle, or would make it a national primary.

[President Johnson]

Yes, it's a scam.

[IceSpear]

Sure, as soon as we abolish caucuses and stop letting 2-3 states decide our presidential nominees every election.

[The Free North]

Correct me if i'm wrong but dont Republicans have fewer super-delegates compared to democrats?

If so, the Rep model should be adopted across the board.

[Ebsy]

Correct me if i'm wrong but dont Republicans have fewer super-delegates compared to democrats?

If so, the Rep model should be adopted across the board.

The Republican superdelegate system is rather complicated and operates almost nothing like the Democratic one.

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Berniebots crying about democracy when it comes to superdelegates, but don't seem to mind that the first two states are lily white electorates, one of which is a caucus that disenfranchises plenty of voters.

This Sanders supporter does not support the way things are. There needs to be fundamental changes to our nomination system. No more superdelgates, caucuses, very white states going first, etc.

Don't bite the bait.

[Panhandle Progressive]

Correct me if i'm wrong but dont Republicans have fewer super-delegates compared to democrats?

If so, the Rep model should be adopted across the board.

For Republicans, there are generally 3 unpledged delegates in each state, consisting of the state chairman and two RNC committee members. However, according to the RNC communications director Sean Spicer, convention rules obligate those RNC members to vote according to the result of primary elections held in their states.

[Thunderbird is the word]

If the superdelegates rig the election for Hillary while she loses the popular vote which I could see happening that would severely hurt the party in the general election. You might also see the Democratic convention looking like Chicago in 68.

[Mehmentum]

That's why they won't.

[Ebsy]

Probably a premature call, considering only two states have voted so far.

[IceSpear]

[Figueira]

Haven't people explained enough times what's wrong with this argument?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Yes (sane)

[IceSpear]

Haven't people explained enough times what's wrong with this argument?

You can "explain" it all you want, it doesn't change the facts. Don't hate the player, hate the game. The only reason Bernie even has the 1% chance at the nomination he has is because two lily white states (one of which was in his own backyard) were the first to vote. Case in point: life isn't fair.

[Pyro]

That's why they won't.