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« on: February 12, 2016, 10:14:35 PM »

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/dnc-chair-superdelegates-make-sure-party-leaders-elected

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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2016, 10:16:26 PM »

As a conservative on the outside looking in here, DWS is quite entertaining to watch.
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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2016, 10:17:54 PM »

How has this woman remained dnc chair for so long?
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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2016, 10:21:36 PM »

How has this woman remained dnc chair for so long?

I think DNC Chair elections are only every 4 years or so.
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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2016, 10:29:34 PM »

How has this woman remained dnc chair for so long?

I think DNC Chair elections are only every 4 years or so.

Yeah, there's no official vote on her leadership until the DNC 2016 winter meeting. But Obama could use his influence to force her out at any random moment, the DNC as a whole wouldn't dare oppose him.
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2016, 10:30:13 PM »

How has this woman remained dnc chair for so long?

I think DNC Chair elections are only every 4 years or so.

Yeah, there's no official vote on her leadership until the DNC 2016 winter meeting. But Obama could use his influence to force her out at any random moment, the DNC as a whole wouldn't dare oppose him.

It surprises me that Obama hasn't tried taking her out yet after all the dumb s--- she's said.
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2016, 10:41:01 PM »

How has this woman remained dnc chair for so long?

Because Obama is wishy washy and the Clintons are evil.
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2016, 10:44:56 PM »

This is... literally true. What's the issue?
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2016, 11:19:59 PM »

How has this woman remained dnc chair for so long?

Because Obama is wishy washy and the Clintons are evil.
You watch too much House of Cards.
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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2016, 11:22:17 PM »

This is... literally true. What's the issue?

Can you imagine if only the activists got to choose the nominee? Holy s*** we'd have never won the White House in a generation.
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2016, 11:24:27 PM »

nice to see Atlas' resident sexist teenagers on form
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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2016, 11:29:39 PM »

I think if Sanders continues to win primaries and lose delegate count, The Dem establishment is asking for trouble.
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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2016, 11:29:49 PM »

This is... literally true. What's the issue?

Can you imagine if only the activists got to choose the nominee? Holy s*** we'd have never won the White House in a generation.

Good thing the superdelegates gave us safe establishment candidates like Walter Mondale who did great in DC.
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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2016, 11:34:52 PM »

How has this woman remained dnc chair for so long?

I think DNC Chair elections are only every 4 years or so.

Yeah, there's no official vote on her leadership until the DNC 2016 winter meeting. But Obama could use his influence to force her out at any random moment, the DNC as a whole wouldn't dare oppose him.

It surprises me that Obama hasn't tried taking her out yet after all the dumb s--- she's said.

Because Debbie has threatened to call him sexist if he does. Dead serious.
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« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2016, 11:35:05 PM »

This is... literally true. What's the issue?

Can you imagine if only the activists got to choose the nominee? Holy s*** we'd have never won the White House in a generation.

Yes, because Dukakis and Mondale turned out really well...and that Ted Kennedy campaign in 1980 really managed California....or not.
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« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2016, 11:36:06 PM »

I guess honesty is good, at least.
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« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2016, 11:40:08 PM »

This is... literally true. What's the issue?

everything DWS says is bad.. so this is bad. Duh. Being the DNC chair is basically a thankless job unless you're a Howard Dean who has a base of support from non-elected officials.

In a literal sense, there's some merit to what she says. I've been in the room when delegates were elected to the DNC. That election involved picking quite a few people that are not going to run for any elective office ever telling you how much they did in the last election. As a delegate to a convention that nominated DNC delegates, I even got take an occasional phone call or mailer/letter from a candidate trying to increase visibility for a bid to go to the DNC. Some groups had "slates", that I pretty much totally ignored before casting my votes.

Let's just say that unpledged PLEOs (Superdelegates) didn't exist. Then that'd mean that they'd probably get into conventions as pledged delegates anyways and there'd be media/activist complaints about the convention having too many elected officials and not enough random activists.

Superdelegates are not likely to be the House of Lords. It's one of those quirky lil honorifics that'd exist in another form without the Superdelegate setup.
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« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2016, 11:41:54 PM »

How has this woman remained dnc chair for so long?

I think DNC Chair elections are only every 4 years or so.

Yeah, there's no official vote on her leadership until the DNC 2016 winter meeting. But Obama could use his influence to force her out at any random moment, the DNC as a whole wouldn't dare oppose him.

It surprises me that Obama hasn't tried taking her out yet after all the dumb s--- she's said.

Because Debbie has threatened to call him sexist if he does. Dead serious.

I really don't think DWS would go that far. Can somebody give me proof on this?
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« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2016, 11:47:12 PM »

This is... literally true. What's the issue?

Can you imagine if only the activists got to choose the nominee? Holy s*** we'd have never won the White House in a generation.
Um, superdelegates are only a minority of the delegates. Enough to sway things if there's a tie, but that's it.
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« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2016, 11:52:17 PM »

This is... literally true. What's the issue?

Can you imagine if only the activists got to choose the nominee? Holy s*** we'd have never won the White House in a generation.

Yeah, who needs the people who actually invest their time and energy in the party because they care about the beliefs it purports to stand for? Better have a bunch of establishment bigwigs decide everything, that will definitely lead to great candidates and policies. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2016, 12:05:15 AM »

God she's horrible. It's more to stop the actual voters then anything Superdelegates are terrible.
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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2016, 12:09:02 AM »

Bernie Sanders has been throwing shade at the Dems for a good minute but the moment he runs as a dem all of a sudden people wanna change the party rules GTFOH. DWS is right here even though she has been wrong many times.
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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2016, 12:14:33 AM »

Bernie Sanders has been throwing shade at the Dems for a good minute but the moment he runs as a dem all of a sudden people wanna change the party rules GTFOH. DWS is right here even though she has been wrong many times.

I've always thought superdelegates were trash. If anything, it's the Hillary folks who have suddenly grown a fondness for them (although I assume some of them already thought superdelegates were going to save her ass in 2008... fat chance).
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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2016, 12:17:02 AM »

Get rid of Superdelegates and the Caucus system.
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« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2016, 12:52:10 AM »

Get rid of Superdelegates and the Caucus system.

Seems logical by itself but also a fair compromise. Caucuses benefit the activists and super delegates benefit the establishment.
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