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« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2005, 03:28:16 pm »
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The only one I can definetely say is a bad person is Dumbya. 
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« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2005, 11:08:41 pm »
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Lincoln
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Hayes
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« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2005, 11:14:07 pm »
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Nixon
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Harding
Reagan
Jackson
Harrison (the first one)
Buchanan
Grant
Hayes
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« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2005, 11:17:22 pm »
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« Reply #29 on: July 28, 2005, 11:23:00 pm »
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Seriously or are you mocking me?
seriously. I despise Lincoln.
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« Reply #30 on: July 29, 2005, 03:37:36 pm »
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seriously. I despise Lincoln.

Is there a reason to despise him?  All he did was sent into motion the liberation of millions.  I believe he was our greatest president. 
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« Reply #31 on: July 29, 2005, 03:57:32 pm »
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seriously. I despise Lincoln.

Is there a reason to despise him?  All he did was sent into motion the liberation of millions.  I believe he was our greatest president. 
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1. started The Draft

2. Grant

3.McClellan wouldve done exactly what he did

4.One of the bloodiest wars ever. (woulnt have been nearly as bad under Douglas and McClellan)

5.allowed rich to skip out on the draft for $300. (the rich then sent a servant instead)

6.took advice from his wife who told him who to appoint to get out of debt with other politicians.

7.the list goes on and on and on........

(8. that hat)
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« Reply #32 on: July 29, 2005, 05:45:49 pm »
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The only truly bad people I can think of are Jefferson, Lincoln, LBJ, and Nixon.  That doesn't mean that they didn't do good things as president/weren't good presidents.  You can argue that Clinton and Kennedy were bad people for cheating on their wives but certainly were/would have been good presidents.
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« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2005, 11:38:15 am »
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And for once, I agree with you Smiley

I think Lincoln certainly had the most trying circumstances to deal with, with FDR being a close second.

As for the worst Presidents... I really don't think we've had 10 'bad' Presidents.  We've had Presidents that I disagree with (FDR, LBJ), but they were still good leaders in their own right and I can find things that I respect about them.

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seriously. I despise Lincoln.

Is there a reason to despise him?  All he did was sent into motion the liberation of millions.  I believe he was our greatest president. 
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« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2005, 05:06:42 pm »
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Buchanan, James
Bush, George H.W.
Bush, George W.
Clinton, William J.
Grant, Ulysses S.
Hayes, Rutherford B.
McKinley, William
Nixon, Richard
Polk, James
Taft, William H. 
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« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2005, 05:32:26 pm »
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Will someone tell me why Regan was Evil??
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« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2005, 05:35:37 pm »
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Polk, James

Why the hell?
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« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2005, 06:15:46 pm »
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I don't like Expansionism/Imperialism.
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« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2005, 06:56:32 pm »
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Is it "I disagree with them so I hate them" or is it because these men really were "bad". In my opnion the sleeze bags like JFK, Clinton, LBJ, and Harding were "bad people". Manical men like Nixon were "bad" guys. Guys like Ike, Hayes, McKinley, Garfeild, Hoover, and Reagan were all good guys who had integrity. We may be forgetting wha we may classify as "bad".
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« Reply #39 on: August 01, 2005, 07:31:30 pm »
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Coolidge

How was Coolidge a bad person?
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« Reply #40 on: August 01, 2005, 10:11:54 pm »
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Actually, I had a hard time coming up with ten "bad People."  Consider Carter, for example.  IMO he was fairly worthless as a president, but he was not a bad person, just an unfit president.  And consider Arthur.  I've always liked him as president.  He's no Washington, but I think he did a decent job as president.  He was a crook before the 1880 election, however, so I put him on the list.  I had a hard time coming up with ten for this list, and included Coolidge because he was a bit of a sourpuss.  He wasn't that bad, and maybe Pierce should be there instead.   
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« Reply #41 on: August 01, 2005, 10:28:25 pm »
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How was Coolidge a bad person?

He was a racist. He beleived that Anglo-Saxons should have control over the World and that any other race was below it. He loved to insult the Irish as well.

But a lot of Americans had these views for years. Explains why the KKK had over 4 million members in 1924.
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« Reply #42 on: August 02, 2005, 10:07:41 pm »
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Why does that make him a bad person? James K. Polk was our hardest-working President. He reported met with anyone concerned, staying up late into the night to consider different ideas. Upon being elected he chose to run for only one term; if he did not accomplish his four goals, he was not worthy of re-election, and if he did accomplish them - which was the case - the country would not need him. 103 days after leaving office he died from exhaustion.

Polk was our only President to seriously keep all of his campaign promises and probably the President who loved his wife the most. Imperialist or not, those are the markings of a good person. We could use more leaders like James K. Polk.
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« Reply #43 on: August 03, 2005, 12:34:13 am »
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GWB (not a partisan pick, he came accross as some drunk rich kid)



So that makes him a bed person? I think that is extremely offensive. When people say he is a bad person because he killed millions of innocent people, I think they are mentally disadvantaged, but to judge someone because they were an alcoholic? I was an alcoholic; does that make me a bad person? Does it make me or him a bad person because our fathers are successful people? That was a partisan pick; it would be no different than me saying Clinton was a Pot Smoking Poor kid. Neither man should be deemed a bad person because of there families financial situation, or there past indiscretions.
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« Reply #44 on: August 03, 2005, 09:17:03 pm »
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His love for dictators sickens me.

^^^^(speaking of Jimmy Carter, that sanctimonious hypocritical windbagged old scold).
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« Reply #45 on: August 09, 2005, 11:53:50 am »
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Any list would have to include James Buchanan and Franklin Pierce.  They practically sat there and watched the nation tear itself apart towards war.  Neither offered any real alternatives (Heck, Pierce sponsored a group of Southerners who wanted to colonize Cuba), and neither has any real accomplishments. 

Grant was a good military leader, but he was a lousy president.  Presidential corruption reached its peak in the 19th century during his administration.  Can you say Credit Mobilier?

In the 20th century, Nixon might be called out for the Watergate scandal, but he wasn't a bad president in the sense that  he actually got stuff done in office,  such as creating the EPA and opening up trade with China (a MAJOR foreign policy initiative). 

Harding was a worthless president.  The economy did well, under him, but he pretty much let his cabinet run things.  He had the Teapot Dome oil scandal as well.
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« Reply #46 on: August 09, 2005, 03:34:19 pm »
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I just love the responses that list America's worst presidents as only the most recent. That's pretty damned ignorant.

As far as people psychologically unfit for the presidency -- my definition of "evil" -- the list would be:

Andrew Jackson
Theodore Roosevelt
Woodrow Wilson
LBJ
Richard Nixon

Now, if you include the crooked and the ineffectual, but not necessarily deranged, like the five I mentioned before, the list would be a touch longer (I neglect those who died immediately in office):

J Q Adams
Buchanan
Grant
Harding
Carter

This makes up my ten worst, although Franklin Pierce and G H W Bush deserve dishonorable mentions

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« Reply #47 on: August 09, 2005, 03:36:31 pm »
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Other than being a racist, how was Wilson a bad president?
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« Reply #48 on: August 09, 2005, 03:38:55 pm »
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Other than being a racist, how was Wilson a bad president?

Have you actually read some of the messianic god-presidency crap he wrote as a grad student in Johns Hopkins?
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« Reply #49 on: August 09, 2005, 03:54:53 pm »
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I've seen it, but I thought he later wrote in the 1890s as a Princeton professor that he didn't actually take that seriously, like it was a phase he was going through or something.  Anyway, I was judging the presidents by their administrations, not their mental state.
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