Bloomberg runs. Who benefits the republican candidate or democrat? Swing-states?
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« on: February 22, 2016, 06:02:16 PM »

Have no idea how this would impact the race.
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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2016, 06:52:26 PM »
« Edited: February 22, 2016, 06:56:11 PM by RR1997 »

Bloomberg is a left-wing liberal on most issues. It would obviously help the Republicans.
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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2016, 07:01:28 PM »

Sanders wins even with Bloomberg in the race.
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2016, 07:04:08 PM »

It definitely benefits the Republicans. In particular, it is, actually, the main realistic path to victory for Trump.
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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2016, 07:08:11 PM »

According to logic, it hurts the Democrat.

According to evidence (recent polls), shockingly in a Sanders-Trump-Bloomberg race it's 45-35-10.
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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2016, 07:16:31 PM »

Bloomberg is big money, corporate type. Sure he's socially liberal but he's also very fiscally conservative. Establishment/Rockerfeller Republicans, Wall Street types, plutocrats, Grover Norquist anti-taxers will flock to him instead of the pseudo-populist Trump.

Face it, he'll cut into both candidates, just not evenly.
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2016, 07:21:32 PM »

Bloomberg is big money, corporate type. Sure he's socially liberal but he's also very fiscally conservative. Establishment/Rockerfeller Republicans, Wall Street types, plutocrats, Grover Norquist anti-taxers will flock to him instead of the pseudo-populist Trump.

Face it, he'll cut into both candidates, just not evenly.
He's not fiscally conservative. He's staunchly pro-minimum wage increases, pro-Obamacare, pro-environmental regulations, etc. He's fiscally centrist/center-left.
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2016, 07:22:15 PM »

Bloomberg is big money, corporate type. Sure he's socially liberal but he's also very fiscally conservative. Establishment/Rockerfeller Republicans, Wall Street types, plutocrats, Grover Norquist anti-taxers will flock to him instead of the pseudo-populist Trump.

Face it, he'll cut into both candidates, just not evenly.
He's not fiscally conservative. He's staunchly pro-minimum wage increases, pro-Obamacare, pro-environmental regulations, etc. He's fiscally centrist/center-left.

Although I hate Bloomberg, I'm glad we have at least one Bloombot here. Diversity is a good thing. Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2016, 07:39:22 PM »
« Edited: February 22, 2016, 07:42:48 PM by RR1997 »

Bloomberg is big money, corporate type. Sure he's socially liberal but he's also very fiscally conservative. Establishment/Rockerfeller Republicans, Wall Street types, plutocrats, Grover Norquist anti-taxers will flock to him instead of the pseudo-populist Trump.

Face it, he'll cut into both candidates, just not evenly.
He's not fiscally conservative. He's staunchly pro-minimum wage increases, pro-Obamacare, pro-environmental regulations, etc. He's fiscally centrist/center-left.

Although I hate Bloomberg, I'm glad we have at least one Bloombot here. Diversity is a good thing. Smiley

Is there anything wrong with my post? I'm simply stating the fact that AltWorlder is wrong, and Bloomberg is mostly fiscally liberal. He's a liberal on every issue except for school vouchers and the retirement age, and maybe taxes. He cut taxes for the poor and middle class, he supports letting the Bush Tax Cuts for only the rich, he cut taxes on Wall Street and corporations, and he raised property taxes. So he's center-left on taxes. I'm just stating the fact that he's mostly liberal, and AtlWorlder is completely wrong.
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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2016, 07:41:44 PM »

I like Bloomberg, but a very small amount of his support would come from conservatives. He'd get 3% of the vote, and 75% of his support of his support would come from liberals.
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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2016, 08:36:17 PM »

I like Bloomberg, but a very small amount of his support would come from conservatives. He'd get 3% of the vote, and 75% of his support of his support would come from liberals.

Completely disagree.
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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2016, 08:52:13 PM »

Bloomberg is a left-wing liberal on most issues. It would obviously help the Republicans.

Hello President Trump, if he runs.
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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2016, 09:03:20 PM »

I like Bloomberg, but a very small amount of his support would come from conservatives. He'd get 3% of the vote, and 75% of his support of his support would come from liberals.

Completely disagree.

Explain
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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2016, 09:09:24 PM »

I like Bloomberg, but a very small amount of his support would come from conservatives. He'd get 3% of the vote, and 75% of his support of his support would come from liberals.

Completely disagree.

Explain

Bloomberg's extremely limited appeal would be to a few moderate suburbanites who don't like Trump's nativism and generally populist feel.  Despite what this forum likes to believe, those folks are just as Republican as they are Democrat, and the more Dem-friendly ones will probably have no problem with Hillary.
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« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2016, 12:41:28 PM »

So the National Review editorial board, establishment GOP intelligentsia, and other people who follow them would rather hold their noses and vote for Trump, or stay at home, rather than vote for Bloomberg?
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« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2016, 04:08:22 PM »

Bloomberg won't run. If he does, there's no way he wins any EVs, unless he pours billions into NY to win it. But he'll be a non factor everywhere else. He takes 3% of the popular vote from the Dems
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« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2016, 04:18:43 PM »

So the National Review editorial board, establishment GOP intelligentsia, and other people who follow them would rather hold their noses and vote for Trump, or stay at home, rather than vote for Bloomberg?

They might vote for Bloomberg, or Hillary, or the Constitution or Libertarian nominee. They are less than 1% of the population combined though.
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« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2016, 04:35:03 PM »

He's known around the country as the guy who banned big sodas.
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« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2016, 04:39:51 PM »

Bloomberg is big money, corporate type. Sure he's socially liberal but he's also very fiscally conservative. Establishment/Rockerfeller Republicans, Wall Street types, plutocrats, Grover Norquist anti-taxers will flock to him instead of the pseudo-populist Trump.

Face it, he'll cut into both candidates, just not evenly.
He's not fiscally conservative. He's staunchly pro-minimum wage increases, pro-Obamacare, pro-environmental regulations, etc. He's fiscally centrist/center-left.

Only in a post-tea party world does that make him fiscally center-left.
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« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2016, 05:44:20 PM »

Bloomberg would be a non-factor in all but the closest of races. He'd pull the very few "principled" GOP members who are mostly upper-crust establishment urban types, and likewise, he'd pull the very few upper-class Democrats who mostly vote Democratic because they're gay and they want their rights. I guess he'd also get those MOMS DEMANDING ACTION.

At the end of the day, Bloomberg doesn't resonate at all with bread-and-butter Democrats or Republicans; he'd get less than 3% of the vote and it'd be evenly spread for the most part.
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« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2016, 08:01:38 AM »

Bloomberg is big money, corporate type. Sure he's socially liberal but he's also very fiscally conservative. Establishment/Rockerfeller Republicans, Wall Street types, plutocrats, Grover Norquist anti-taxers will flock to him instead of the pseudo-populist Trump.

Face it, he'll cut into both candidates, just not evenly.
He's not fiscally conservative. He's staunchly pro-minimum wage increases, pro-Obamacare, pro-environmental regulations, etc. He's fiscally centrist/center-left.

Only in a post-tea party world does that make him fiscally center-left.

He's fiscally liberal on other issues too. He's fiscally liberal on almost every issue, even taxes. He supports letting Bush's Tax Cuts expire for the rich only. He's a hardcore liberal on everything except for school vouchers.
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« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2016, 08:06:36 AM »

I feel like a lot of liberals on here don't even know why they hate Bloomberg. Bloomberg is a hardcore liberal. The only issue that Bloomberg and Hillary disagree on is school vouchers and that's it.
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« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2016, 07:13:51 PM »

Bloomberg is often viewed by liberals as an authoritarian crypto-racist for the Stop and Frisk program.
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« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2016, 07:16:29 PM »

I'll be contrarian and predict that Bloomberg would take college educated and younger republicans from trump
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« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2016, 07:31:08 PM »

Bloomberg's ban guns and, ban large sodas is symptomatic of a Democrat, so if he enters, Trump will be helped.
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