Why Trump could legitamately do well with African-American voters.

[RR1997]

NOTE: I despise Trump with a passion, but I think that he could do well with AA.

I was watching CNN, a couple of days ago, and they were talking about how Trump would do very well (for a Republican) with African-American voters.

Here's why:
1. Obama is not running, so this will obviously help Trump.
2. Trump is strongly pro-affirmative action. He thinks that AA is a great thing, and he called Scalia's anti-affirmative action comments racist and offensive.
3. Polls have shown that African-Americans hate free-trade the most. They're the most protectionist group. Hillary has a history of supporting free trade, while Trump has been protectionist all his life. Trump strongly opposes TPP. This will help him a lot with working-class blacks.

I'll list more reasons shortly.

[HillOfANight]

https://today.yougov.com/news/2015/10/12/democrats-still-more-supportive-free-trade-tpp-rep/

Not really. Could he do better than Obama? Sure. But after the whole birth certificate charade, I doubt he does well.

[Figueira]

Voted 9%. I think it's possible that he'll get a small bump due to Obama no longer being on the ballot (mostly from lower turnout among black Democrats), but Trump is a terrible GE candidate.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

Slightly better than Romney (since Obama is not on the ballot), but won't crack double digits.

[RR1997]

4. Hillary is running. You guys have to remember that Hillary invented birther-ism. As you all know, she ran a very racist campaign against Obama, and Trump could use this to his advantage.
5. African-Americans are not pro-immigration. According to most polls, only a slim majority of blacks are pro-immigration reform, and there is a very significant portion of blacks who are anti-immigration. Asians and Hispanics are overwhelmingly pro-immigration on the other hand. Whites have not been the only ones who've suffered from immigrants taking their jobs, blacks have suffered too. Trump could appeal to a lot of working-class, blue-collar blacks.

[Gass3268]

Slightly better than Romney (since Obama is not on the ballot), but won't crack double digits.

I agree with this, but I voted 10% as the maximum amount that TRUMP could get.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

4. Hillary is running. You guys have to remember that Hillary invented birther-ism. As you all know, she ran a very racist campaign against Obama, and Trump could use this to his advantage.
5. African-Americans are not pro-immigration. According to most polls, only a slim majority of blacks are pro-immigration reform, while there is a very significant portion of blacks who are anti-immigration. Asians and Hispanics are overwhelmingly pro-immigration on the other hand. Whites have not been the only ones who've suffered from immigrants taking their jobs, blacks have suffered too. Trump could appeal to a lot of working-class, blue-collar blacks.

You guys have to remember that Hillary invented birther-ism

No she didn't, there was never any proof that she was responsible for that

As you all know, she ran a very racist campaign against Obama

Proof?

[Figueira]

4. Hillary is running. You guys have to remember that Hillary invented birther-ism. As you all know, she ran a very racist campaign against Obama, and Trump could use this to his advantage.

Which is why black people are doing everything they can to stop her from winning the primary.

[RR1997]

4. Hillary is running. You guys have to remember that Hillary invented birther-ism. As you all know, she ran a very racist campaign against Obama, and Trump could use this to his advantage.

Which is why black people are doing everything they can to stop her from winning the primary.

Sanders hasn't attacked Hillary over her 2008 campaign. Trump probably will.

[Zache]

4. Hillary is running. You guys have to remember that Hillary invented birther-ism. As you all know, she ran a very racist campaign against Obama, and Trump could use this to his advantage.

Only if Obama lets him. Which he won't.

[psychprofessor]

Seriously, Obama may not be on the ballot but he will be actively campaigning for Hillary. She has elements of the BLM behind her. She has a lot of built in advantages structurally from just being a Democrat. You think AA's are going to forgive Trump for basically trashing Obama for the past 8 years regarding his birth certificate and pretending to be Muslim?

[Figueira]

4. Hillary is running. You guys have to remember that Hillary invented birther-ism. As you all know, she ran a very racist campaign against Obama, and Trump could use this to his advantage.

Which is why black people are doing everything they can to stop her from winning the primary.

Sanders hasn't attacked Hillary over her 2008 campaign. Trump probably will.

Because Trump was never a birther.

Also, source on Clinton "inventing birtherism"?

[RR1997]

I think that Trump would get around 12% of the black vote. You guys have to remember that Bush got 11% of the black vote against Kerry, and Trump is a much better fit for black voters because of the reasons I listed.

[RR1997]

4. Hillary is running. You guys have to remember that Hillary invented birther-ism. As you all know, she ran a very racist campaign against Obama, and Trump could use this to his advantage.

Which is why black people are doing everything they can to stop her from winning the primary.

Sanders hasn't attacked Hillary over her 2008 campaign. Trump probably will.

Because Trump was never a birther.

Also, source on Clinton "inventing birtherism"?

Good point . Sorry about that.

Ignore that part and read my other reasons why Trump could do well with African-Americans. They're good and realistic reasons.

[SillyAmerican]

4. Hillary is running. You guys have to remember that Hillary invented birther-ism. As you all know, she ran a very racist campaign against Obama, and Trump could use this to his advantage.
5. African-Americans are not pro-immigration. According to most polls, only a slim majority of blacks are pro-immigration reform, while there is a very significant portion of blacks who are anti-immigration. Asians and Hispanics are overwhelmingly pro-immigration on the other hand. Whites have not been the only ones who've suffered from immigrants taking their jobs, blacks have suffered too. Trump could appeal to a lot of working-class, blue-collar blacks.

You guys have to remember that Hillary invented birther-ism

No she didn't, there was never any proof that she was responsible for that

It may not have been Hillary, but I think it's fairly clear that it originated within the ranks of the Democrats.

In a Politico article dated April 22, 2011 with the headline "Birtherism: Where it all began"  (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53563.html), we read the following:

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[Figueira]

4. Hillary is running. You guys have to remember that Hillary invented birther-ism. As you all know, she ran a very racist campaign against Obama, and Trump could use this to his advantage.

Which is why black people are doing everything they can to stop her from winning the primary.

Sanders hasn't attacked Hillary over her 2008 campaign. Trump probably will.

Because Trump was never a birther.

Also, source on Clinton "inventing birtherism"?

Good point . Sorry about that.

Ignore that part and read my other reasons why Trump could do well with African-Americans. They're good and realistic reasons.

I just think that Trump is a bad enough candidate among people in general, including black voters, that it will negate any advantage he has on particular issues.

[MK]

Seriously, Obama may not be on the ballot but he will be actively campaigning for Hillary. She has elements of the BLM behind her. She has a lot of built in advantages structurally from just being a Democrat. You think AA's are going to forgive Trump for basically trashing Obama for the past 8 years regarding his birth certificate and pretending to be Muslim?

This.  Blacks are pretty much irrelevant.    Only Ben Carson could get maybe 20% .      What would have to happen is Trump wins and in 4 years blacks wealth and employment  increases significantly.  Then the Republicans would have something to point to.  But we all know thats not happening any time soon. Dems get the white house and make policy that keeps blacks chained to the plantation.

[Devils30]

Hillary will run ads showing Trump's whole episode questioning Obama's birth certificate. Maybe in theory a Trump like candidate would do well with black voters but Trump isn't the guy to pull this off.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

He can certainly improve on the Romney numbers, but in purple stated like Penn State, he will do poorly. 13%

[PresidentTRUMP]

I say around 10% give or take. Regarding immigration reform and allowing citizenship to illegals is awful for the African American population for many reasons.

[they don't love you like i love you]

So Trump is going to attack Hillary for "starting Birtherism" even though he dabbled in it up until this campaign? And blacks will believe him with Obama campaigning for Hillary?

Only on Atlas.

[Lyin' Steve]

He's running against Hillary.
On Bloomberg yesterday, I was watching a bunch of black preachers straight up tell their congregations that it was idiotic to vote Republican and that they needed to vote for Hillary, and singing Hillary's praises.
How do you combat that?  Trump may have a better chance than Bernie since he's much smarter and better-connected than Bernie, but it's tough to see how you could convince a black preacher to tell his congregation to vote Republican.

[SillyAmerican]

So Trump is going to attack Hillary for "starting Birtherism" even though he dabbled in it up until this campaign? And blacks will believe him with Obama campaigning for Hillary?

If Hillary starts in on Trump, he'll simply start waving the Politico article that indicates that the whole thing originated somewhere with the Democrats, so good luck with making that an issue...

4. Hillary is running. You guys have to remember that Hillary invented birther-ism. As you all know, she ran a very racist campaign against Obama, and Trump could use this to his advantage.

You guys have to remember that Hillary invented birther-ism

No she didn't, there was never any proof that she was responsible for that

It may not have been Hillary, but I think it's fairly clear that it originated within the ranks of the Democrats.

In a Politico article dated April 22, 2011 with the headline "Birtherism: Where it all began"  (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53563.html), we read the following:

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[emailking]

I don't think Trump will do significantly better or worse with black voters than the other candidates, except for maybe Carson.

I guess we'll find out. But as other have said, it's hard to see how the birtherism wouldn't come back to haunt him if Clinton has to play that card. Brushing it off as the past and insisting we talk about something else (as he's been doing this campaign), probably won't cut it.

[Zache]

So Trump is going to attack Hillary for "starting Birtherism" even though he dabbled in it up until this campaign? And blacks will believe him with Obama campaigning for Hillary?

If Hillary starts in on Trump, he'll simply start waving the Politico article that indicates that the whole thing originated somewhere with the Democrats, so good luck with making that an issue...

4. Hillary is running. You guys have to remember that Hillary invented birther-ism. As you all know, she ran a very racist campaign against Obama, and Trump could use this to his advantage.

You guys have to remember that Hillary invented birther-ism

No she didn't, there was never any proof that she was responsible for that

It may not have been Hillary, but I think it's fairly clear that it originated within the ranks of the Democrats.

In a Politico article dated April 22, 2011 with the headline "Birtherism: Where it all began"  (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53563.html), we read the following:

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Obama himself will never allow Donald Trump of all people to deflect from birtherism. Clinton doesn't even have to mention a single word about it.