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« on: February 24, 2016, 03:50:08 PM »
« edited: February 24, 2016, 08:40:07 PM by HillOfANight »

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=75899aa5-d534-4f73-a00d-5d84f2274ed3

Among viewers who almost always watched the show when Trump was the host, Trump leads Clinton by 24 points, 58% to 34%.

Among voters who almost never watched “The Apprentice” when Trump was host, Clinton leads Trump by 15 points, 53% to 38%.
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« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2016, 04:32:42 PM »

Glad to know SUSA still exists
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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2016, 04:47:13 PM »

These polls are sure reminding me of the "Obama Vs Romney" polls.
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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2016, 05:00:54 PM »

Sounds accurate. After SurveyUSA cleaned up their act in Kentucky in 2015, I tend to trust them more than I used to.
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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2016, 07:20:45 PM »

SUSA used to be good about polling different matchups, lame that they just have 1 here.
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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2016, 08:02:55 PM »

So Trump is getting 34% of the Hispanic vote? B-b-b-but Clinton was supposed to carry TX and AZ in the general election!
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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2016, 08:19:38 PM »

Clinton is leading
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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2016, 08:41:46 PM »
« Edited: February 24, 2016, 08:44:22 PM by HillOfANight »

So Trump is getting 34% of the Hispanic vote? B-b-b-but Clinton was supposed to carry TX and AZ in the general election!

Lots of other interesting crosstabs.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/09/09/about-that-poll-showing-donald-trump-doing-well-with-black-voters/
Don't forget SurveyUSA has screwy results with minorities. They found 25% of blacks voting for Trump, which no other poll has shown. Another thing is they aren't polling in Spanish.

Also, interestingly at the bottom, it says "This research was conducted 100% online.". I thought they used to do 80% landline 20% online.
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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2016, 09:08:34 PM »


You don't say?
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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2016, 09:10:18 PM »

So Trump is getting 34% of the Hispanic vote? B-b-b-but Clinton was supposed to carry TX and AZ in the general election!

Lots of other interesting crosstabs.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/09/09/about-that-poll-showing-donald-trump-doing-well-with-black-voters/
Don't forget SurveyUSA has screwy results with minorities. They found 25% of blacks voting for Trump, which no other poll has shown. Another thing is they aren't polling in Spanish.

Also, interestingly at the bottom, it says "This research was conducted 100% online.". I thought they used to do 80% landline 20% online.

They're online now? How odd. They used to be one of the best pollsters.
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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2016, 10:07:49 PM »

Winning whites by 13 won't do it for the GOP today.
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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2016, 10:17:47 PM »

Winning whites by 13 won't do it for the GOP today.

He'll win by way more. Hillary won't break 35% with white men against Trump, and he'll hold her below 45% with white women.
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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2016, 01:22:53 AM »

People are underestimating the probability of Trump looking like a complete moron and losing states even McCain won. Trump can go Todd Akin easily on a national level.
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« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2016, 05:28:50 AM »

Still within margin of error, Trump is within striking distance
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« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2016, 01:23:20 AM »

People are underestimating the probability of Trump looking like a complete moron and losing states even McCain won. Trump can go Todd Akin easily on a national level.

Trump has gone Todd Akin many times already.
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« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2016, 02:15:32 AM »

Sounds accurate. After SurveyUSA cleaned up their act in Kentucky in 2015, I tend to trust them more than I used to.

They said Conway was going to win. And they were way off downballot as well.
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« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2016, 03:19:42 AM »
« Edited: February 28, 2016, 06:26:52 AM by Da-Jon »

With Trump approvals at 42%, like most Senate GOPers, its not surprising why they are losing .
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« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2016, 06:40:18 AM »

People are underestimating the probability of Trump looking like a complete moron and losing states even McCain won. Trump can go Todd Akin easily on a national level.

How can we underestimate it when you remind us about it every single day?
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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2016, 08:53:16 AM »

Sounds accurate. After SurveyUSA cleaned up their act in Kentucky in 2015, I tend to trust them more than I used to.

They said Conway was going to win. And they were way off downballot as well.

This was not unique to them though, for one, they had it at a 45-40 race and he ended up with 45. Secondly, the few other pollsters there also found about the same thing.

The only ones sounding an alarm were PPP, and they stopped polling months before the actual election.
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« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2016, 09:05:50 AM »

Sounds accurate. After SurveyUSA cleaned up their act in Kentucky in 2015, I tend to trust them more than I used to.

They said Conway was going to win. And they were way off downballot as well.

Other polls (like WKU) agreed with SurveyUSA.

It wasn't the polls that were off. It was the election that was off.
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« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2016, 03:28:50 PM »

Sounds accurate. After SurveyUSA cleaned up their act in Kentucky in 2015, I tend to trust them more than I used to.

They said Conway was going to win. And they were way off downballot as well.

Other polls (like WKU) agreed with SurveyUSA.

It wasn't the polls that were off. It was the election that was off.

The polls should have been better at modeling turnout then. Claiming that the polls were fine because they "modeled what was supposed to happen" is at best a misunderstanding of what polls are to be - reflections of what WILL happen, not reflections of what would happen in an unusual, freak situation (since Bevin won by so much , him winning is not a freak situation), and at worst a pure partisan hack viewpoint.

SUSA is a company is not bad, but they are simply unable to model the KY electorate, and that's why Bluegrass banned SUSA from doing any more polling for them after the 2015 elections.
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« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2016, 03:32:49 PM »

SUSA is a company is not bad, but they are simply unable to model the KY electorate, and that's why Bluegrass banned SUSA from doing any more polling for them after the 2015 elections.

What this means is that Bluegrass and its media outlets don't have the guts to stand by their own pollster.
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« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2016, 09:44:40 PM »

SUSA is a company is not bad, but they are simply unable to model the KY electorate, and that's why Bluegrass banned SUSA from doing any more polling for them after the 2015 elections.

What this means is that Bluegrass and its media outlets don't have the guts to stand by their own pollster.

If someone does a bad job you're not going to rehire them, like if someone lays down a floor and there's a ton of dents, cracks, and it's barely put together then you aren't gonna "stand by them" and let them lay down another floor.
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« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2016, 10:18:41 PM »

If someone does a bad job you're not going to rehire them, like if someone lays down a floor and there's a ton of dents, cracks, and it's barely put together then you aren't gonna "stand by them" and let them lay down another floor.

Then Kentucky shouldn't rehire whoever makes its voting machines.
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« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2016, 10:29:19 PM »

If someone does a bad job you're not going to rehire them, like if someone lays down a floor and there's a ton of dents, cracks, and it's barely put together then you aren't gonna "stand by them" and let them lay down another floor.

Then Kentucky shouldn't rehire whoever makes its voting machines.

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