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« on: February 25, 2016, 04:39:34 AM »

What would have happend in 1972 after RFK becomes president?

1968 election:



✓Senator Robert F. Kennedy (D-NY)/Former Governor Terry E. Sandford (D-NC): 291 EV. (44.7%)
Former Vice President Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Governor Spiro T. Agnew (R-MD): 202 EV. (42.5%)
Former Governor George Wallace (AI-AL)/General Curtis LeMay (AI-LA): 45 EV. (11.8%)
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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2016, 04:41:56 AM »

The only reason Maine went Democratic in 1968 was Muskie's presence of the ticket.
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2016, 12:10:47 PM »

RFKwould face the same hurdles as a hypothetical President Humphrey in 1972: rising crime and the threat of a Comnmunist takeover in Vietnam. Accordingly, he would lose in 1972, perhaps to Ronald Reagan.
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2016, 03:41:09 PM »



President Robert F. Kennedy/Vice President Terry Sanford - 108 EV
Governor Ronald Reagan/Senator James Buckley - 430 EV ✓
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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2016, 04:08:23 PM »

The country was not ready for someone like Reagan in 1972. He would have gotten the VP spot on a ticket with Governor Nelson Rockefeller to preserve party unity.

Assuming no Dixiecrat is running:



Governor Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Governor Ronald Reagan (R-CA): 390 EV. (53.73%)
President Robert F. Kennedy (D-MA)/Vice President Terry Sanford: 148 EV. (45.96%)
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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2016, 05:22:03 PM »
« Edited: February 28, 2016, 09:27:08 PM by Kingpoleon »


292: Rockefeller/Ford(45.6%)
177: Kennedy/McGovern(36.9%)
69: Thurmond/Rarick(18.1%)
Other: 0.4%
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2016, 09:12:57 PM »



President Robert Kennedy (D)-New York/Vice-President Terry Sanford (D)-North Carolina
Governor Ronald Reagan (R)-California/Senator Robert Dole (R)-Kansas

Kennedy is highly popular after withdrawing from Vietnam with the last troops leaving on New Years Eve 1970 and passing a form of guaranteed income. With the economy running smoothly he wins in a landslide in what's seen as a Goldwater redux. He does well in the south where he has strong support among both poor whites and African-Americans. Following the lessons of 1964 and 1972 the GOP never nominates a conservative ideologue again.
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« Reply #7 on: February 29, 2016, 03:04:05 AM »



President Robert Kennedy (D)-New York/Vice-President Terry Sanford (D)-North Carolina
Governor Ronald Reagan (R)-California/Senator Robert Dole (R)-Kansas

Kennedy is highly popular after withdrawing from Vietnam with the last troops leaving on New Years Eve 1970 and passing a form of guaranteed income. With the economy running smoothly he wins in a landslide in what's seen as a Goldwater redux. He does well in the south where he has strong support among both poor whites and African-Americans. Following the lessons of 1964 and 1972 the GOP never nominates a conservative ideologue again.

Reagan would have lost, I agree. What a pitty it didn't happen that way. Would have been good for the country and the GOP.

In that scenario I see someone like Rockfeller or maybe Gerald Ford running and winning in 1976.
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« Reply #8 on: February 29, 2016, 03:35:37 AM »



President Robert F. Kennedy/Vice President Terry Sanford - 108 EV
Governor Ronald Reagan/Senator James Buckley - 430 EV ✓
What an unbalanced GOP ticket. And Buckley wasn't even a Republican in 1972.
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« Reply #9 on: February 29, 2016, 03:46:24 AM »

The country was not ready for someone like Reagan in 1972. He would have gotten the VP spot on a ticket with Governor Nelson Rockefeller to preserve party unity.

Assuming no Dixiecrat is running:



Governor Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Governor Ronald Reagan (R-CA): 390 EV. (53.73%)
President Robert F. Kennedy (D-MA)/Vice President Terry Sanford: 148 EV. (45.96%)

Under that scenario, Rockefeller would likely get reelected in 1976 and then Reagan would end up as prez, since Rockefeller passed away in January 1979. In 1980, Reagan would have lost against a Democrat.
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« Reply #10 on: February 29, 2016, 06:48:35 AM »

The country was not ready for someone like Reagan in 1972. He would have gotten the VP spot on a ticket with Governor Nelson Rockefeller to preserve party unity.

Assuming no Dixiecrat is running:



Governor Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Governor Ronald Reagan (R-CA): 390 EV. (53.73%)
President Robert F. Kennedy (D-MA)/Vice President Terry Sanford: 148 EV. (45.96%)

Under that scenario, Rockefeller would likely get reelected in 1976 and then Reagan would end up as prez, since Rockefeller passed away in January 1979. In 1980, Reagan would have lost against a Democrat.

Rockefeller's death was... well... a bit accidental. He could've easily lived longer with some butterfly effect.
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« Reply #11 on: February 29, 2016, 07:47:08 AM »

The country was not ready for someone like Reagan in 1972. He would have gotten the VP spot on a ticket with Governor Nelson Rockefeller to preserve party unity.

Assuming no Dixiecrat is running:



Governor Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Governor Ronald Reagan (R-CA): 390 EV. (53.73%)
President Robert F. Kennedy (D-MA)/Vice President Terry Sanford: 148 EV. (45.96%)

Under that scenario, Rockefeller would likely get reelected in 1976 and then Reagan would end up as prez, since Rockefeller passed away in January 1979. In 1980, Reagan would have lost against a Democrat.

Rockefeller's death was... well... a bit accidental. He could've easily lived longer with some butterfly effect.

Or shorter, due to the stress as president.
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« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2016, 04:57:57 PM »



290-Bob Kennedy (D-NY)-Terry Sanford (D-NC) 51,1
248-George Romney (R-MI)-William Westmoreland (R-SC) 48,0
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