Democratic South Carolina Primary results thread (polls close @7pm ET)

[Holmes]

A line of voters in Columbia:

Where all the white people at? Oh......yeah, I forgot, Southern White Democrats are becoming a myth now.

I'm thinking a good chunk of white Dixiecrats that voted in the primary in 2008 opted for the Republican primary last week instead.

My guess on turnout is about 500k.

[HillOfANight]

http://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/local/2016/02/27/live-blog-south-carolina-democratic-primary/80987478/

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I've read generally that between 2004 and 2008 is the likeliest Dem turnout.

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Turnout is low to moderate, per CNN. Hopefully this is bad for Clinton.

[Fusionmunster]

Turnout is low to moderate, per CNN. Hopefully this is bad for Clinton.

I think you have it backwards, Sanders is helped by high Turnout, low turnout probably means older voters showed up but young people didnt.

[HillOfANight]

Turnout is low to moderate, per CNN. Hopefully this is bad for Clinton.

LOL!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/02/21/bernie-sanders-says-lower-turnout-contributed-to-his-nevada-loss-to-hillary-clinton/

[Ebsy]

Turnout is low to moderate, per CNN. Hopefully this is bad for Clinton.

How would this be bad for Clinton? It means that the electorate is going to be even blacker and older than a high turnout election.

[The Other Castro]

I believe someone said before that the county to watch for a Sanders win is Pickens. I saw that Charleston is also a potential close county. There was this handy chart on Reddit suggesting that a hypothetical Sanders SC result of 38% would correspond to about a 2.5% win in Pickens and about a 4% loss in Charleston.

[Mehmentum]

Turnout is low to moderate, per CNN. Hopefully this is bad for Clinton.

How would this be bad for Clinton? It means that the electorate is going to be even blacker and older than a high turnout election.

Well, it could be bad for Clinton in GE, but not in the primary.

[Lyin' Steve]

Guys my friend is at a university and went along a ballot line, there wasn't a single person over 23 and none of them were voting for Clinton!
Sanders landslide imminent!!!!

Someone else sent me this picture from a polling center.  Where are all the black people???  This is going to be a rough night for Hillary!

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

Democrats seem very low energy this cycle.

[Mehmentum]

Guys my friend is at a university and went along a ballot line, there wasn't a single person over 23 and none of them were voting for Clinton!
Sanders landslide imminent!!!!

Someone else sent me this picture from a polling center.  Where are all the black people???  This is going to be a rough night for Hillary!

Look at all the Iraqi voters voting for Sanders in South Carolina!

[Averroës Nix]

I think that the racial crosstabs on exit polls matter more for Sanders than Clinton's raw margin of victory. Assuming that exit polls aren't a joke like they were in NV, at least.

A race in which Clinton wins among both white and black voters in South Carolina will be covered very differently than one in which Sanders wins the white vote - however small the white share of the electorate is today.

[Xing]

Low turnout is bad for both Clinton and Sanders. It means either one of them will have work to do before the GE.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Low turnout is bad for both Clinton and Sanders. It means either one of them will have work to do before the GE.

Nah, the Democratic primary has been low key. If they were hurling insults like TRUMP and Rubio then I'm sure Democrats would have record turnout too.

[IceSpear]

Not to mention the fact that more candidates and a more competitive primary will of course lead to higher turnout. For example, if it was just Trump vs. Rubio, there would be a turnout dropoff among supporters of the other candidates. And many Hillary lovers and even people who dislike Hillary assume it is in the bag for her anyway, so don't bother to vote.

[The Free North]

Guys my friend is at a university and went along a ballot line, there wasn't a single person over 23 and none of them were voting for Clinton!
Sanders landslide imminent!!!!

Someone else sent me this picture from a polling center.  Where are all the black people???  This is going to be a rough night for Hillary!

Didn't realize South Carolina was now majority Kurdish.

Amazing how demographics change so radically.

[Xing]

I'm not saying the Democrats should be more vicious to one another, I'm saying that they need to excite Democratic voters more. It's foolish to assume that everyone who would support Sanders or Clinton over Trump but is sitting on the sidelines right now will stampede towards the polls in November. Some will, but others, for better or for worse, need a reason to get out and vote.

[Landslide Lyndon]

I'm not saying the Democrats should be more vicious to one another, I'm saying that they need to excite Democratic voters more. It's foolish to assume that everyone who would support Sanders or Clinton over Trump but is sitting on the sidelines right now will stampede towards the polls in November. Some will, but others, for better or for worse, need a reason to get out and vote.

If the prospect of a TRUMP presidency isn't motivating enough for Democrats and Dem leaning independents then I don't know what will be.

[Crumpets]

Guys my friend is at a university and went along a ballot line, there wasn't a single person over 23 and none of them were voting for Clinton!
Sanders landslide imminent!!!!

Someone else sent me this picture from a polling center.  Where are all the black people???  This is going to be a rough night for Hillary!

Look at all the Iraqi voters voting for Sanders in South Carolina!

This is a random thought, but I wonder if there's a partisan breakdown between Kurdish Iraqi Americans, Sunni Iraqi Americans, and Shi'a Iraqi Americans. I imagine Shi'as and Kurds would be both relatively more Republican and Clinton-friendly, while Sunnis would be relatively more Democratic and Sanders-friendly. Probably just conjecture.

[Mr. Morden]

This is a random thought, but I wonder if there's a partisan breakdown between Kurdish Iraqi Americans, Sunni Iraqi Americans, and Shi'a Iraqi Americans. I imagine Shi'as and Kurds would be both relatively more Republican and Clinton-friendly, while Sunnis would be relatively more Democratic and Sanders-friendly. Probably just conjecture.

Which group is more economically conservative, and which is more socially conservative?

[Xing]

I'm not saying the Democrats should be more vicious to one another, I'm saying that they need to excite Democratic voters more. It's foolish to assume that everyone who would support Sanders or Clinton over Trump but is sitting on the sidelines right now will stampede towards the polls in November. Some will, but others, for better or for worse, need a reason to get out and vote.

If the prospect of a TRUMP presidency isn't motivating enough for Democrats and Dem leaning independents then I don't know what will be.

The idea that the alternative to Trump is more than just "not as bad as Trump."

[Landslide Lyndon]

I'm not saying the Democrats should be more vicious to one another, I'm saying that they need to excite Democratic voters more. It's foolish to assume that everyone who would support Sanders or Clinton over Trump but is sitting on the sidelines right now will stampede towards the polls in November. Some will, but others, for better or for worse, need a reason to get out and vote.

If the prospect of a TRUMP presidency isn't motivating enough for Democrats and Dem leaning independents then I don't know what will be.

The idea that the alternative to Trump is more than just "not as bad as Trump."

Besides left-wing nutjobs like jfern I don't think there is any sane Democrat out there thinking like that about Clinton. Just look at her favorables.

[Holmes]

Guys my friend is at a university and went along a ballot line, there wasn't a single person over 23 and none of them were voting for Clinton!
Sanders landslide imminent!!!!

Someone else sent me this picture from a polling center.  Where are all the black people???  This is going to be a rough night for Hillary!

Didn't realize South Carolina was now majority Kurdish.

Amazing how demographics change so radically.

Obama's America.

[Xing]

I'm not saying the Democrats should be more vicious to one another, I'm saying that they need to excite Democratic voters more. It's foolish to assume that everyone who would support Sanders or Clinton over Trump but is sitting on the sidelines right now will stampede towards the polls in November. Some will, but others, for better or for worse, need a reason to get out and vote.

If the prospect of a TRUMP presidency isn't motivating enough for Democrats and Dem leaning independents then I don't know what will be.

The idea that the alternative to Trump is more than just "not as bad as Trump."

Besides left-wing nutjobs like jfern I don't think there is any sane Democrat out there thinking like that about Clinton. Just look at her favorables.

Even if Clinton wins the vote of every sane person in America, it won't be enough. She needs a majority. It certainly isn't a majority of Sanders supporters who would refuse to vote for Clinton. I'd gladly vote for her. The problem is that there might be just enough to tip the balance in Trump's favor.

[Xing]

Even if Clinton wins the vote of every sane person in America, it won't be enough.

>implying that only people who vote for Clinton are sane

Against Trump, yes, I'm more than happy to make that assumption.