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« Reply #1025 on: October 26, 2016, 08:26:37 PM »

Chaffetz is voting for Trump after all, so I've taken him off the list in the OP:

https://twitter.com/jasoninthehouse/status/791445788656226304
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« Reply #1026 on: October 26, 2016, 09:41:45 PM »

I won't add Powell to the list.  He's not really a Republican.  He's a true RINO; Clinton 2016 is the third straight Presidential election in which Powell has conspicuously endorsed the Democratic candidate.  At this point, Joe Lieberman is more of a Democrat than Colin Powell is a Republican.

In fairness, your party's messiah Ronald Reagan would be a RINO by today's Republican/Trump Party standards.

But yeah, we all know the only reason why Colin Powell is endorsing Hillary is the same reason why he endorsed Obama.
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« Reply #1027 on: October 26, 2016, 09:44:48 PM »

I won't add Powell to the list.  He's not really a Republican.  He's a true RINO; Clinton 2016 is the third straight Presidential election in which Powell has conspicuously endorsed the Democratic candidate.  At this point, Joe Lieberman is more of a Democrat than Colin Powell is a Republican.

In fairness, your party's messiah Ronald Reagan would be a RINO by today's Republican/Trump Party standards.

But yeah, we all know the only reason why Colin Powell is endorsing Hillary is the same reason why he endorsed Obama.

If Powell says he's a Republican and is registered that way (or votes in our primaries), he's a Republican.  Period.
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« Reply #1028 on: October 26, 2016, 09:48:32 PM »

I won't add Powell to the list.  He's not really a Republican.  He's a true RINO; Clinton 2016 is the third straight Presidential election in which Powell has conspicuously endorsed the Democratic candidate.  At this point, Joe Lieberman is more of a Democrat than Colin Powell is a Republican.

In fairness, your party's messiah Ronald Reagan would be a RINO by today's Republican/Trump Party standards.

But yeah, we all know the only reason why Colin Powell is endorsing Hillary is the same reason why he endorsed Obama.

If Powell says he's a Republican and is registered that way (or votes in our primaries), he's a Republican.  Period.

That sounds like something a RINO would say Smiley
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« Reply #1029 on: October 26, 2016, 09:49:03 PM »

I won't add Powell to the list.  He's not really a Republican.  He's a true RINO; Clinton 2016 is the third straight Presidential election in which Powell has conspicuously endorsed the Democratic candidate.  At this point, Joe Lieberman is more of a Democrat than Colin Powell is a Republican.

i agree that he seems to be quite liberal in some ways but otherwise your comparison doesn't hold water, imho.

1) two of his 3 endorsements have been for the SAME candidate.

2) trump is THE essential anti-republican and resulted into far more un-endorsements/crossover-voters than any other candidate since decades.

Trump described himself as a "Rockefeller Republican" when he stated in the mid-1990s that he was a Republican.  Endorsing the Democratic candidate 3 years in a row pretty much suggests that you're a not a Republican at heart.

The non-endorsements and unendorsements of Trump should put him down by 15 points, but we're nowhere near that level.  Indeed, while Trump is unlikely to win the popular vote, his chances of winning the EV with fewer popular votes than Clinton is fairly decent.  Trump may well lose by 15, but no poll shows that, and some polls show him even with Clinton.  That's something McGovern, Mondale, and Goldwater could never say.
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« Reply #1030 on: October 27, 2016, 05:26:30 AM »

I won't add Powell to the list.  He's not really a Republican.  He's a true RINO; Clinton 2016 is the third straight Presidential election in which Powell has conspicuously endorsed the Democratic candidate.  At this point, Joe Lieberman is more of a Democrat than Colin Powell is a Republican.

i agree that he seems to be quite liberal in some ways but otherwise your comparison doesn't hold water, imho.

1) two of his 3 endorsements have been for the SAME candidate.

2) trump is THE essential anti-republican and resulted into far more un-endorsements/crossover-voters than any other candidate since decades.

Trump described himself as a "Rockefeller Republican" when he stated in the mid-1990s that he was a Republican.  Endorsing the Democratic candidate 3 years in a row pretty much suggests that you're a not a Republican at heart.

The non-endorsements and unendorsements of Trump should put him down by 15 points, but we're nowhere near that level.  Indeed, while Trump is unlikely to win the popular vote, his chances of winning the EV with fewer popular votes than Clinton is fairly decent.  Trump may well lose by 15, but no poll shows that, and some polls show him even with Clinton.  That's something McGovern, Mondale, and Goldwater could never say.

There was literally a poll showing Trump down by 15 yesterday. And didn't Mondale at least tie Reagan at some point?
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« Reply #1031 on: October 31, 2016, 09:50:44 PM »

Kasich writes in McCain for president:

http://www.cleveland.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/10/john_kasich_follows_through_on.html

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« Reply #1032 on: October 31, 2016, 09:51:20 PM »

No surprise, but at least someone in the GOP has any spine at all.
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« Reply #1033 on: October 31, 2016, 09:53:45 PM »




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« Reply #1034 on: October 31, 2016, 09:55:48 PM »


Are you kidding me? John McCain?
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« Reply #1035 on: October 31, 2016, 10:23:16 PM »

All due credit to Kasich for not supporting trump. But cmon a wrote in for McCain is a waste of time.
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« Reply #1036 on: October 31, 2016, 10:24:31 PM »


Now that's a bit juicier. PA is locked up, and Toomey knows it as well as everyone else does.
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« Reply #1037 on: November 01, 2016, 12:10:20 AM »

All due credit to Kasich for not supporting trump. But cmon a wrote in for McCain is a waste of time.

As opposed to a write in for anyone else not running?

C'mon. It's not like he could publicly back Clinton or Johnson and have a future in the GOP.
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« Reply #1038 on: November 01, 2016, 12:12:19 AM »

Kasich should have written in George HW Bush
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« Reply #1039 on: November 01, 2016, 12:16:14 AM »

Kasich should have written in George HW Bush

Or himself
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« Reply #1040 on: November 01, 2016, 12:17:40 AM »


That would look tacky.

Though I might. Wink
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« Reply #1041 on: November 01, 2016, 12:28:08 AM »

All due credit to Kasich for not supporting trump. But cmon a wrote in for McCain is a waste of time.

As opposed to a write in for anyone else not running?

C'mon. It's not like he could publicly back Clinton or Johnson and have a future in the GOP.

There's a few conservatives that are *actual* write-in choices though from Evan McMullin to Darrell Castle and others.  Votes for John McCain literally get thrown out.  He's pretty much encouraging people to throw out their votes by doing this.  I know someone will try to say it's the same thing as a vote that counted, but it isn't.  At least when you vote for an actual candidate, it goes down in history in the results instead of just being as if nothing happened.
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« Reply #1042 on: November 01, 2016, 12:29:49 AM »

mark this down for re-appearance in the 2020 rep primary if he runs...he voted for mccain in 2016. I don't think that will play well to the base in 4 years.
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« Reply #1043 on: November 01, 2016, 12:30:35 AM »

mark this down for re-appearance in the 2020 rep primary if he runs...he voted for mccain in 2016. I don't think that will play well to the base in 4 years.

Most of that "base" wasn't going to vote for him anyway.
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« Reply #1044 on: November 01, 2016, 01:33:24 PM »

Btw, Paul Ryan said that he's already early-voted for Trump, though he did so without speaking Trump's name:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/01/politics/paul-ryan-voted-for-donald-trump/
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« Reply #1045 on: November 01, 2016, 02:03:53 PM »

All due credit to Kasich for not supporting trump. But cmon a wrote in for McCain is a waste of time.

As opposed to a write in for anyone else not running?

C'mon. It's not like he could publicly back Clinton or Johnson and have a future in the GOP.

There's a few conservatives that are *actual* write-in choices though from Evan McMullin to Darrell Castle and others.  Votes for John McCain literally get thrown out.  He's pretty much encouraging people to throw out their votes by doing this.  I know someone will try to say it's the same thing as a vote that counted, but it isn't.  At least when you vote for an actual candidate, it goes down in history in the results instead of just being as if nothing happened.

I find it frustrating myself.  Though I can also understand if most people, even perhaps those involved in public office, may not be aware of these candidates.
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« Reply #1046 on: November 01, 2016, 02:04:53 PM »

Lame. Kasich has enough stature that he might have been able to save the country from Trump by endorsing Clinton.
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« Reply #1047 on: November 02, 2016, 05:16:17 PM »

Jeff Flake says he might vote for McMullin:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/jeff-flake-evan-mcmullin-trump-230654
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« Reply #1048 on: November 02, 2016, 08:06:09 PM »

McMullin doesn't even have write-in status in Arizona though, correct?
Let's be honest, he's voting for Clinton.
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« Reply #1049 on: November 02, 2016, 09:08:11 PM »

Former Sen. Slade Gorton voting for McMullin, along with former WA Sec. of State Sam Reed:

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/politics/article/Ex-U-S-Sen-Gorton-submits-electors-for-10509998.php

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