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« Reply #625 on: March 02, 2016, 12:10:02 AM »

Sanders has 'GOP lite' appeal amongst non white voters. And yet apparently that's their fault. Not his. If you want to try and win an election on white voters backs go ahead. But it's getting almost delusional now.
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« Reply #626 on: March 02, 2016, 12:11:57 AM »

FEEL THE (CLINTON) BURN! PLUS IT WILL ONLY GONNA GET STRONGER!
Demographically, the Clinton burn will be stronger today than at any other time. She can look forward to getting these margins in MS, LA, and DC, but nowhere else.

She doesn't need those massive margins anymore due to her massive delegate lead. Even in the worst case scenario, she just needs to keep most contests remotely close. Easy peasy.

She needs big wins otherwise she could loose. CA, PA, etc have huge delegates & a 7-8% loss would make substantial differences. Add to it the string of states Bernie will win next.

She needs big wins MS,LA,IL,FL, etc to put this race to bed. If she is like 350 delegate ahead, it will be impossible for Bernie
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« Reply #627 on: March 02, 2016, 12:13:17 AM »

FEEL THE (CLINTON) BURN! PLUS IT WILL ONLY GONNA GET STRONGER!
Demographically, the Clinton burn will be stronger today than at any other time. She can look forward to getting these margins in MS, LA, and DC, but nowhere else.

She doesn't need those massive margins anymore due to her massive delegate lead. Even in the worst case scenario, she just needs to keep most contests remotely close. Easy peasy.

She needs big wins otherwise she could loose. CA, PA, etc have huge delegates & a 7-8% loss would make substantial differences. Add to it the string of states Bernie will win next.

She needs big wins MS,LA,IL,FL, etc to put this race to bed. If she is like 350 delegate ahead, it will be impossible for Bernie

You wish dude. Just go back to reddit already.
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« Reply #628 on: March 02, 2016, 12:13:45 AM »
« Edited: March 02, 2016, 12:19:51 AM by Reginald »

I know it's only by 0.1% but, in a race he's loosing by 34.1 points, why is Sanders leading in Austin?

Austin is the Portland (or Asheville?) of Texas. It should honestly be a huge disappointment for Sanders that he's not doing better there.

I actually looked up the precinct data for Travis Co. and Sanders is winning pretty much all white areas in Austin, but his margins aren't huge honestly. And Clinton is cleaning up in the rest of the county.
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« Reply #629 on: March 02, 2016, 12:14:49 AM »

I know it's only by 0.1% but, in a race he's loosing by 34.1 points, why is Sanders leading in Austin?

Sanders has 'GOP lite' appeal amongst non white voters. And yet apparently that's their fault. Not his. If you want to try and win an election on white voters backs go ahead. But it's getting almost delusional now.

Austin is Bernie country bro, I am surprised at 0.1% btw, if Sanders was gonna get 40% odd Austin would have to give a 10-15% lead. Austin is very liberal compared to Texas, plus add college votes.

As did Clinton after being 1st Black 1st lady, she was whipped out among blacks. Sanders has only done a shade bad than Clinton despite no name recognition & not a candidate of Clinton's stature or without establishment support.

This just spells doom for Clinton in the general
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« Reply #630 on: March 02, 2016, 12:14:55 AM »

I know it's only by 0.1% but, in a race he's loosing by 34.1 points, why is Sanders leading in Austin?

Austin is the Portland (or Asheville?) of Texas. It should honestly be a huge disappointment for Sanders that he's not doing better there.
Sanders is underperforming in virtually every urban area.
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« Reply #631 on: March 02, 2016, 12:16:31 AM »

Whoo! You go Bernie; ride that wave on white voters and no one else...FEEL THE BERN on your pasty skin.

Dude, you won. No need to be a colossal asshole.
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« Reply #632 on: March 02, 2016, 12:17:05 AM »

FEEL THE (CLINTON) BURN! PLUS IT WILL ONLY GONNA GET STRONGER!
Demographically, the Clinton burn will be stronger today than at any other time. She can look forward to getting these margins in MS, LA, and DC, but nowhere else.

She doesn't need those massive margins anymore due to her massive delegate lead. Even in the worst case scenario, she just needs to keep most contests remotely close. Easy peasy.

She needs big wins otherwise she could loose. CA, PA, etc have huge delegates & a 7-8% loss would make substantial differences. Add to it the string of states Bernie will win next.

She needs big wins MS,LA,IL,FL, etc to put this race to bed. If she is like 350 delegate ahead, it will be impossible for Bernie

You wish dude. Just go back to reddit already.

This is common sense. When you have 1000 Delegates left (say) with 40 days left with a 100-150 delegate margin, if you call it over, you're just dumb.

You're sig counting the Super Delegates is also insanely dumb & I don't want to waste my time explaining, you should have the intelligence to figure that out- I don't want to waste my time with you so there goes my last reply to you!!!
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« Reply #633 on: March 02, 2016, 12:18:50 AM »

Well good for Bernie to keep the hope alive, but lets look at MN, where he is winning by 19 points. CNN has awarded him 36 delegates to Clinton's 28, for an 8 delegate lead for Bernie (13 delegates remain to be allocated). These delegate margins are just too small. He'll need to win in places like PA, OH, MI and the West if he wants to win the nomination.
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« Reply #634 on: March 02, 2016, 12:20:14 AM »

Thank you Massholes! No way this can be spun as anything other than an amazing night for Hillary now.

Bernie got 4 wins, and should shut Hillary out of delegates in Vermont.

Remember in 2008 when Mitt Romney won 7 of 20 states on February 5th, shutting everybody out from Utah's delegates, and then dropped out on February 7th?  Smiley
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« Reply #635 on: March 02, 2016, 12:21:01 AM »

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« Reply #636 on: March 02, 2016, 12:21:18 AM »

FEEL THE (CLINTON) BURN! PLUS IT WILL ONLY GONNA GET STRONGER!
Demographically, the Clinton burn will be stronger today than at any other time. She can look forward to getting these margins in MS, LA, and DC, but nowhere else.

She doesn't need those massive margins anymore due to her massive delegate lead. Even in the worst case scenario, she just needs to keep most contests remotely close. Easy peasy.

She needs big wins otherwise she could loose. CA, PA, etc have huge delegates & a 7-8% loss would make substantial differences. Add to it the string of states Bernie will win next.

She needs big wins MS,LA,IL,FL, etc to put this race to bed. If she is like 350 delegate ahead, it will be impossible for Bernie

You wish dude. Just go back to reddit already.

This is common sense. When you have 1000 Delegates left (say) with 40 days left with a 100-150 delegate margin, if you call it over, you're just dumb.

You're sig counting the Super Delegates is also insanely dumb & I don't want to waste my time explaining, you should have the intelligence to figure that out- I don't want to waste my time with you so there goes my last reply to you!!!

The magic number is 2,383 to clinch the nomination. She can do this with even a Superdelegate, although it will be a state that officially takes her over. So you are just plain wrong. A delegate is a delegate is a delegate.
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« Reply #637 on: March 02, 2016, 12:22:42 AM »

Looking at the map, Bernie should have pumped some money into Western Virginia. He was within 5% in both the 6th and 9th congressional districts. Maybe could have made it more respectable.
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« Reply #638 on: March 02, 2016, 12:25:02 AM »

Sanders has 'GOP lite' appeal amongst non white voters. And yet apparently that's their fault. Not his. If you want to try and win an election on white voters backs go ahead. But it's getting almost delusional now.

And what exactly does this mean?
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« Reply #639 on: March 02, 2016, 12:25:13 AM »
« Edited: March 02, 2016, 12:27:14 AM by RJEvans »

Looking at the map, Bernie should have pumped some money into Western Virginia. He was within 5% in both the 6th and 9th congressional districts. Maybe could have made it more respectable.

Lessons learned. He raised $40+ million. I'm sure he'll start to use his dollars more wisely and strategically.
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« Reply #640 on: March 02, 2016, 12:31:54 AM »
« Edited: March 02, 2016, 12:34:08 AM by locke lamora »

FEEL THE (CLINTON) BURN! PLUS IT WILL ONLY GONNA GET STRONGER!
Demographically, the Clinton burn will be stronger today than at any other time. She can look forward to getting these margins in MS, LA, and DC, but nowhere else.

She doesn't need those massive margins anymore due to her massive delegate lead. Even in the worst case scenario, she just needs to keep most contests remotely close. Easy peasy.

She needs big wins otherwise she could loose. CA, PA, etc have huge delegates & a 7-8% loss would make substantial differences. Add to it the string of states Bernie will win next.

She needs big wins MS,LA,IL,FL, etc to put this race to bed. If she is like 350 delegate ahead, it will be impossible for Bernie

You wish dude. Just go back to reddit already.

This is common sense. When you have 1000 Delegates left (say) with 40 days left with a 100-150 delegate margin, if you call it over, you're just dumb.

You're sig counting the Super Delegates is also insanely dumb & I don't want to waste my time explaining, you should have the intelligence to figure that out- I don't want to waste my time with you so there goes my last reply to you!!!

The magic number is 2,383 to clinch the nomination. She can do this with even a Superdelegate, although it will be a state that officially takes her over. So you are just plain wrong. A delegate is a delegate is a delegate.

No you're wrong.  Let me ask you something.  If Sanders beats Hillary in pledged delegates, do you think the superdelegates would still vote for Hillary?  They would be crazy to do so, unless they want the party to be destroyed in the general election.  Superdelegates haven't taken a pledge, so counting them right now is idiotic.
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« Reply #641 on: March 02, 2016, 12:32:04 AM »

According to 538, this is how Bernie performed relative to his benchmarks:

CO: +6
OK: +6

MN: -1
VT: -11
MA: -14
GA: -16
VA: -20
TX: -22
AR: -25
TN: -35
AL: -41

Looks like a landslide folks.

Dude you'r fake. He won 87% of Votes in VT & he under-performed by 11% - What was he supposed to get? 98%

Where is the link? Do not come up with fake data to spread your message - Disgusting
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« Reply #642 on: March 02, 2016, 12:33:38 AM »


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« Reply #643 on: March 02, 2016, 12:41:20 AM »
« Edited: March 02, 2016, 12:42:59 AM by RJEvans »

According to 538, this is how Bernie performed relative to his benchmarks:

CO: +6
OK: +6

MN: -1
VT: -11
MA: -14
GA: -16
VA: -20
TX: -22
AR: -25
TN: -35
AL: -41

Looks like a landslide folks.

Dude you'r fake. He won 87% of Votes in VT & he under-performed by 11% - What was he supposed to get? 98%

Where is the link? Do not come up with fake data to spread your message - Disgusting

Dude, chill.

Do not accuse someone of being disingenuous without facts.

The benchmarks were posted at 10:50pm

http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/super-tuesday-primaries-presidential-election-2016/?#livepress-update-11918052
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« Reply #644 on: March 02, 2016, 12:42:40 AM »

Actual Numbers vs 538 -

Vs Polling Average -
(Sanders)
Alabama -6%
Arkansas -2%
Georgia +0%  (+0.3)
Mass +5%
Okla +3.5%
Tenn 0%(+0.4%)
Texas -1.5%
Vermont +1.5%
Virginia +0% (+0.2%)

No Polls for MN & CO

538 gave a tough target to Sanders to win the nomination(if tied nationally & he is 10% odd behind)

MN (Target - 60%) (Actual - 60%)
Co (Target - 55%) (Actual - 58%) - +3%

Alabama is the only state Where Sanders has out-performed by 6%.

Most states he has out-performed the polls including beating a very tough target in MN & CO.

Overall average he has out-performed

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/super-tuesday-preview-democratic-presidential-election-2016/
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2016/primaries/2016-03-01

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« Reply #645 on: March 02, 2016, 12:42:44 AM »

According to 538, this is how Bernie performed relative to his benchmarks:

CO: +6
OK: +6

MN: -1
VT: -11
MA: -14
GA: -16
VA: -20
TX: -22
AR: -25
TN: -35
AL: -41

Looks like a landslide folks.

Dude you'r fake. He won 87% of Votes in VT & he under-performed by 11% - What was he supposed to get? 98%

Where is the link? Do not come up with fake data to spread your message - Disgusting

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/bernie-sanders-doesnt-need-momentum-he-needs-to-win-these-states/
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« Reply #646 on: March 02, 2016, 12:44:59 AM »

Sanders "underperforming" his target in VT is literally meaningless since it resulted in 0 change of delegates. And it's not as if the media will call VT a disappointment for Sanders.
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« Reply #647 on: March 02, 2016, 12:47:00 AM »

According to 538, this is how Bernie performed relative to his benchmarks:

CO: +6
OK: +6

MN: -1
VT: -11
MA: -14
GA: -16
VA: -20
TX: -22
AR: -25
TN: -35
AL: -41

Looks like a landslide folks.

Dude you'r fake. He won 87% of Votes in VT & he under-performed by 11% - What was he supposed to get? 98%

Where is the link? Do not come up with fake data to spread your message - Disgusting

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/bernie-sanders-doesnt-need-momentum-he-needs-to-win-these-states/

That was comparing FB Likes, etc & considering Sanders was tied Nationally with Clinton (Which he is not). If you want to compare with Online Likes, etc & say he is under-performing, please go ahead.

Very intelligent way to compare - Clinton hacks will do anything to make Sanders look bad & make Trump supporters look like an angel.
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« Reply #648 on: March 02, 2016, 12:47:45 AM »

Sanders "underperforming" his target in VT is literally meaningless since it resulted in 0 change of delegates. And it's not as if the media will call VT a disappointment for Sanders.

Okay fine, throw away VT. The point is that Sanders significantly underperformed in the vast majority of the states, and now has to win other states by even more massive margins (and cut Hillary's leads significantly in her strong states) to have a prayer. It's math.
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« Reply #649 on: March 02, 2016, 12:47:55 AM »

FEEL THE (CLINTON) BURN! PLUS IT WILL ONLY GONNA GET STRONGER!
Demographically, the Clinton burn will be stronger today than at any other time. She can look forward to getting these margins in MS, LA, and DC, but nowhere else.

She doesn't need those massive margins anymore due to her massive delegate lead. Even in the worst case scenario, she just needs to keep most contests remotely close. Easy peasy.

She needs big wins otherwise she could loose. CA, PA, etc have huge delegates & a 7-8% loss would make substantial differences. Add to it the string of states Bernie will win next.

She needs big wins MS,LA,IL,FL, etc to put this race to bed. If she is like 350 delegate ahead, it will be impossible for Bernie

You wish dude. Just go back to reddit already.

This is common sense. When you have 1000 Delegates left (say) with 40 days left with a 100-150 delegate margin, if you call it over, you're just dumb.

You're sig counting the Super Delegates is also insanely dumb & I don't want to waste my time explaining, you should have the intelligence to figure that out- I don't want to waste my time with you so there goes my last reply to you!!!

The magic number is 2,383 to clinch the nomination. She can do this with even a Superdelegate, although it will be a state that officially takes her over. So you are just plain wrong. A delegate is a delegate is a delegate.

If Sanders beats Hillary in pledged delegates

He has no chance now of doing that.
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