No candidate can get on the ballot for all 50 states as an indepedent

[User157088589849]

correct?

I heard on tv somewhere that if any candidate wanted to run as an independent they wouldn't have time to get on the ballot, its to late.

[Fuzzy Bear]

That may only technically be true.  An "independent" candidate could, if he or she were so inclined, become the candidate of a minor party in a state where the "independent" option is closed.  I know that in New York, everyone is the nominee of a "party", even if you and the committee to fill vacancies on your petition are its only members.  In Florida, you can truly be "independent", but you must get signatures on petitions.  But the laws (A) are different in the various states, and (B) favor Democrats and Republicans and discourage everyone else.

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I think Oklahoma is the most difficult. It says 40k signatures.

[°Leprechaun]

https://ballotpedia.org/Ballot_access_for_presidential_candidates#Requirements_for_independents

[°Leprechaun]

If Trump were to be denied the nomination in a brokered convention and waited until July 22nd the day after the convention the most he could get is 363 electoral votes according to this link:

http://www.electoral-vote.com/#item-10

[Mr. Morden]

If Trump were to be denied the nomination in a brokered convention and waited until July 22nd the day after the convention the most he could get is 363 electoral votes according to this link:

http://www.electoral-vote.com/#item-10

Of course, 363 is still enough to win, if you actually won them all.  (Not that he'd be likely to win in that case, but he could use that fact to justify his move, as could an anti-Trump candidate running if Trump is nominated.)

In principle, even if someone missed all of the May, June, and July deadlines, the August 1st and later deadlines add up to more than 270 electoral votes.

Note as well that write in votes are allowed in most states, so even failing to get on the ballot wouldn't necessarily lock you out of contention.

[SteveRogers]

Even in states where Trump could still make the deadlines, you have to account for sore loser laws which would prevent him from getting on the ballot in many states. For example, the sore loser law in Texas would now prevent Trump from competing in the general election as an independent, by hijacking a third party ballot line, or as a write-in.

[PresidentTRUMP]

Its now to late to get on a few major states ballot as a 3rd party if you haven't started the process, for example a major state like Texas. So for anyone claiming they may run 3rd party is full of it, they would have had to start the process atleast a month ago if they were serious.

[Crumpets]

Its now to late to get on a few major states ballot as a 3rd party if you haven't started the process, for example a major state like Texas. So for anyone claiming they may run 3rd party is full of it, they would have had to start the process atleast a month ago if they were serious.

Do sore loser laws apply to candidates who switch before their convention, particularly those who are ahead going into the convention, but get the word that their party is planning on throwing the kitchen sink at them before they'll let them on the ballot?

[SteveRogers]

Its now to late to get on a few major states ballot as a 3rd party if you haven't started the process, for example a major state like Texas. So for anyone claiming they may run 3rd party is full of it, they would have had to start the process atleast a month ago if they were serious.

Do sore loser laws apply to candidates who switch before their convention, particularly those who are ahead going into the convention, but get the word that their party is planning on throwing the kitchen sink at them before they'll let them on the ballot?

It varies from state to state, but usually what matters is whether the candidate in question already appeared on that state's ballot in a political party's primary.

[defe07]

I wonder if a losing presidential candidate from either party can run as a running mate for an independent or third party ticket!?

[Blair]

Doesn't Texas need 80K signature by May/June, and they can't be primary voters either