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« on: March 05, 2016, 03:08:29 PM »

Looks like trump is collapsing among his New England base. Sad!
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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2016, 03:28:41 PM »

Honestly, Maine was always seen as the safest trump state tonight, with a Cruz victory in Kansas likely and Kentucky and Louisiana as longshots for the Cruz campaign (which I think they still are, unfortunately). It's hard to say which would be more favorable, since LA is better geographically (notably the border with LA was one of Cruz's strongest areas of Texas) while KY is a caucus, and he's always showed strength in caucuses.
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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2016, 03:41:05 PM »

Honestly, Maine was always seen as the safest trump state tonight,

Uh... LA should be way safer for Trump than ME.

How so? I'm legitimately curious. LA borders states where trump lost and where he got <35% of the vote, and there is a single anti-trump candidate there. By contrast, ME borders much stronger trump-performing areas and there didn't seem to be a clear anti-trump candidate there until the votes started coming in (most were predicting Kasich in second). I understand that ME is a caucus and LA is a primary, but...
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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2016, 03:45:12 PM »

Oh, sorry realistic, I didn't see the answer the first time. I suppose that makes sense.
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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2016, 04:04:16 PM »

CNN: Cruz campaign feeling good about Maine and Louisiana as well, but not necessarily wins. Feeling good about decent delegate counts.

This doesn't jive with the "reports" we are seeing out of Maine. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

I think it jives with Ted Cruz being a master of setting expectations.
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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2016, 05:26:41 PM »

Rubio needs to take whatever course of action is likeliest to prevent a trump victory in Florida. I am unconvinced by these results that dropping out is the best course of action; I think his FL support would split between Cruz and Kasich and give the state to trump. If I'm Rubio, I keep fighting.
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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2016, 07:51:47 PM »

If trump can't do much better than 41-32 in coal country, he's going to lose Kentucky to Cruz.
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« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2016, 07:59:03 PM »

trump wins Magoffin County, in the heart of coal country, 58-20; those are the numbers he needs to cancel out Cruz in western KY. We'll see how this goes.
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« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2016, 08:10:55 PM »


how does that break down delegate wise?

It's totally proportional among candidates who get over 5%, for 46 delegates. So long as all 4 candidates stay over 5%, which seems pretty certain, 41% is good for 19/46 delegates. Kentucky is another defeat for trump, essentially, that puts us still closer to the contested convention.
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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2016, 08:17:47 PM »

I wonder if there are enough votes out in WKY and the urban areas to overtake Trump? I highly doubt it.

It doesn't matter. trump did not do well enough to get a sufficient amount of delegates.

more close states like this and there is no way trump will get 1237.

If he wins Florida and Ohio he could.

If Kasich is even close in Michigan, then he's winning Ohio by double-digits.

How close does Cruz have to get to tie trump in delegates?

Overall or for the day? I don't think there're enough allocated today for Cruz to tie trump overall. For the day, it depends on whether Cruz can get over the 50% hump in Maine for it to become WTA, and what the results are in Louisiana. The utter poll failures in the other states that voted today make that hard to forecast.
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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2016, 08:22:58 PM »

Everyone in this thread is missing the point. Trump is killing himself with these under-performances. He is pissing away delegates.

Romney got 70% of the vote in kentucky.

Are you being sarcastic?

The anti-TRUMP trolls on this forum are so hysterical, Poe's Law must apply.

Man, trump is going down in flames tonight
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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2016, 08:28:56 PM »


Are you enjoying

SUPER CRUZDAY?!?!?!?!?!
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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2016, 08:43:44 PM »

How close does Cruz have to get to tie trump in delegates?

Overall or for the day? I don't think there're enough allocated today for Cruz to tie trump overall. For the day, it depends on whether Cruz can get over the 50% hump in Maine for it to become WTA, and what the results are in Louisiana. The utter poll failures in the other states that voted today make that hard to forecast.
For the day I meant

I typed out a long reply to this, but essentially even to tie Cruz in delegates today trump needs to basically double up on him in LA. If Cruz is over 30% there, even with Trump over 50%, he wins the "delegates won on March 5" category.

If Trump can come very close to winning maine  hes having a good night

If trump loses Maine he's having a terrible night. Remember before tonight when Maine was the safest for him of all these states?
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« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2016, 08:49:37 PM »

LONG LIVE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
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« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2016, 08:54:00 PM »


When was the last time we were rooting for the same guy before this election, Tony? Can't ever recall. Smiley

Who cares ... Trump still wins  by virtue of getting delagates.

trump loses wherever he gets <50% of delegates. Every such result puts him even further away from his majority.
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« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2016, 08:58:47 PM »


When was the last time we were rooting for the same guy before this election, Tony? Can't ever recall. Smiley

Who cares ... Trump still wins  by virtue of getting delagates.

trump loses wherever he gets <50% of delegates. Every such result puts him even further away from his majority.

Don't worry you will be singing a different tune on the 15th.  

D'you think Kasich or Rubio wins a plurality of delegates that day? Depends which is stronger in Illinois, I reckon.
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« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2016, 09:07:41 PM »

Reminder, profanity is not allowed. Trying tricks to get around the filters does not reflect well on your permanent record.

Sorry about that.

Trump loses Maine and and its " oh my gawd Ted Cruz is the 45th president "

God willing!
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« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2016, 09:14:27 PM »

Soo much much for the media narrative. .. Trump is crushing Cruz in Louisiana

Doesn't look like it'll be enough to get him a delegate lead out of tonight, and certainly nowhere near enough to get him >50% of delegates (which he won't get the nomination without). Sorry. Your boy lost tonight, it's all over but the shouting (and the contests ahead, sure).
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« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2016, 09:19:37 PM »


Look at the bags under the man's eyes. He didn't have the energy left to stay awake after this picture was taken.
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« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2016, 09:40:19 PM »

Its over people Cruz win Maine.   Lets get ready for the general election  Cruz vs Hillary

These results have probably made this the most likely scenario, yes. We'll have to wait for March 15 to confirm.
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« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2016, 09:45:51 PM »

How many delegates for little marco tonight?

6 from Kansas. 0 from Maine. Those are final. He's been going between 5 and 6 from Kentucky all night. LA is close -- the threshold for delegates from statewide allocation is 20%; he's currently at 17.9%. He seems to be doing worse in election day than absentee, so I doubt he'll make it. However, notably, LA delegates from CDs have no threshold, so anywhere trump fails to eclipse 50%, the delegates will probably go 1-1-1 for the 1st-2nd-3rd candidates. Since Rubio is solidly in third, he's likely to get 1-3 delegates from LA in this way.

So...12-15 is the answer here.
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« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2016, 09:50:23 PM »

How many delegates for little marco tonight?

6 from Kansas. 0 from Maine. Those are final. He's been going between 5 and 6 from Kentucky all night. LA is close -- the threshold for delegates from statewide allocation is 20%; he's currently at 17.9%. He seems to be doing worse in election day than absentee, so I doubt he'll make it. However, notably, LA delegates from CDs have no threshold, so anywhere trump fails to eclipse 50%, the delegates will probably go 1-1-1 for the 1st-2nd-3rd candidates. Since Rubio is solidly in third, he's likely to get 1-3 delegates from LA in this way.

So...12-15 is the answer here.
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« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2016, 10:01:49 PM »

Cruz is really gained ground in Louisana. Almost at 30% already.  I know it's already called, but it really shows the swing to Cruz from Rubio supporters.

It's very important to keep an eye on LA; if trump can be kept below 50% in all or most congressional districts, they will split 1-1-1 instead of 2-1, and if his statewide win over Cruz is sufficiently small that will result in trump getting <50% of delegates from LA, making this state another victory for the #Nevertrump movement, ignited by Mitt Romney, that is sweeping the nation.
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« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2016, 10:08:39 PM »

Kentucky is only 44% in and the precincts that are out are more heavily populated and seemingly much better for Cruz: much more urban, suburban, and western. trump is unfortunately probably still favored but Cruz still has a strong shot here.


At present numbers, trump is winning statewide allocated delegates in LA 16-12. If he can be kept under 50% in every congressional district, he loses the CD-allocated count ~12-6 (looks like Cruz won a northern CD, which would balance out somewhere Rubio does unusually poorly). In that case, trump is held to a minority of delegates in every state that voted today. Nice job.
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« Reply #24 on: March 05, 2016, 10:09:52 PM »

Looks like TRUMP won Kentucky.  Nice to see Him keep the momentum up tonight!

Looks like trump has been kept to a minority of delegates in every state. Yet another crushing defeat on the heals of Super Tuesday!
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