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« on: March 07, 2016, 06:18:36 PM »

http://www.phillyvoice.com/penn-student-petitions-strike-john-kasich-pennsylvania-republican-primary/

A University of Pennsylvania student is trying to have Republican presidential candidate John Kasich removed from the state's primary ballot.

Nathaniel Rome, a Penn sophomore and chairman of the Pennsylvania Students for Rubio network, has petitioned Commonwealth Court to remove Kasich from the April 26 primary election ballot, alleging that the Ohio governor did not meet the statutory requirement of at least 2,000 signatures on his nominating petition.

Rome, a resident of Strafford, Chester County, contends in his court filing that as many as 802 of the 2,184 signatures on the Kasich petition are invalid or ineligible, for multiple reasons.

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There's a hearing on March 9.   Kind of silly to have only provided a 184 signature cushion to the requirement.
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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2016, 06:22:11 PM »

Sad and desperate attempt by a supporter of a sad and desperate campaign.
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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2016, 06:24:52 PM »

Sad and desperate attempt by a supporter of a sad and desperate campaign.
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2016, 06:31:50 PM »

Sad and desperate attempt by a supporter of a sad and desperate campaign.
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2016, 06:32:40 PM »

That attempt will end once Rubio drops out of the race.
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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2016, 07:22:07 PM »

A politically motivated Rubio man?

Why, I never!
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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2016, 07:51:05 PM »

That attempt will end once Rubio drops out of the race.

Stone should pick this up and run with it.
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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2016, 08:00:24 PM »

No wonder Kasich likes Trump more than Twinkbot.
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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2016, 08:45:02 PM »

There's generally a tacit agreement among Republicans not to do this sort of thing to each other (often relevant when you need to meet signature requirements in deeply Democratic districts, for example).  The Rubio camp is either getting really, really desperate, or will lean on this guy to stop it.
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2016, 08:50:50 PM »

76% of PA's delegates are elected directly by district (loophole primary), which this wouldn't effect.
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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2016, 08:52:46 PM »


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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2016, 09:27:35 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2016, 11:14:15 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2016, 11:40:03 PM »

There's generally a tacit agreement among Republicans not to do this sort of thing to each other (often relevant when you need to meet signature requirements in deeply Democratic districts, for example).  The Rubio camp is either getting really, really desperate, or will lean on this guy to stop it.
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« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2016, 11:46:40 PM »

This is bad for the party.  In 2004 I signed a petition for Ralph Nader to be on the ballot but it didn't work for him.  No, I had no intention of voting for him.
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« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2016, 11:55:00 PM »

awww, Rubio's fanboy is butthurt

this is the only real explanation
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« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2016, 03:01:53 AM »

My understanding of the PA primary is that the candidates themselves aren't featured on the ballot at all; voters elect the delegates directly.  Though my question then is how do the voters know who these random names listed on the ballot are pledged to?
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« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2016, 03:18:30 AM »

Aside from the desperate attempt to stop Kasich, one legitimate question:

How is it even possible to have around 800 signatures that are potentially fake, out of 2.200 which where submitted ?

In Austria, presidential candidates have to collect 6.000 signatures to be on the ballot and it would be a shocking case if even 3 or 4 turned out to be invalid ...
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« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2016, 03:19:38 AM »

LOL RUBIOS PISSED WHAT A LOSER.
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« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2016, 04:19:55 AM »

Aside from the desperate attempt to stop Kasich, one legitimate question:

How is it even possible to have around 800 signatures that are potentially fake, out of 2.200 which where submitted ?

In Austria, presidential candidates have to collect 6.000 signatures to be on the ballot and it would be a shocking case if even 3 or 4 turned out to be invalid ...
Fake signatures are quite common in Italy. A couple of regions had to re-vote because of it.
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« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2016, 04:33:41 AM »

My understanding of the PA primary is that the candidates themselves aren't featured on the ballot at all; voters elect the delegates directly.  Though my question then is how do the voters know who these random names listed on the ballot are pledged to?

There is a Presidential Preference question on the ballot; this decides 17 of the delegates.

The other 54 delegates are elected directly on the ballot, 3 per CD.  Their preferences are not listed, so yeah the voters have no clue.  The campaigns may make a push to educate voters, but I don't even know if the candidates have preferred slates in the first place.  Yeah, essentially Pennsylvania will be electing 54 superdelegates.
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« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2016, 04:56:43 AM »

Sad. Don't back down, Johnny!
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« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2016, 11:14:31 AM »

Aside from the desperate attempt to stop Kasich, one legitimate question:

How is it even possible to have around 800 signatures that are potentially fake, out of 2.200 which where submitted ?

In Austria, presidential candidates have to collect 6.000 signatures to be on the ballot and it would be a shocking case if even 3 or 4 turned out to be invalid ...

The standard rule of thumb in the States is that you should have 50% more signatures than the petition requires because fakes are so common.

For Kasich to only submit 2184 signatures on a 2000 signature petition requirement is horrible campaign malpractice.
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« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2016, 12:48:38 PM »

There's generally a tacit agreement among Republicans not to do this sort of thing to each other (often relevant when you need to meet signature requirements in deeply Democratic districts, for example).  The Rubio camp is either getting really, really desperate, or will lean on this guy to stop it.

The judges that decide these things generally allow petitions to stand, unless it's a fringe candidate, a third party, or fraud that can't be ignored.
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« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2016, 04:01:35 PM »

There's generally a tacit agreement among Republicans not to do this sort of thing to each other (often relevant when you need to meet signature requirements in deeply Democratic districts, for example).  The Rubio camp is either getting really, really desperate, or will lean on this guy to stop it.

You really have to wonder about the description of any election method which begins with the words "There's generally a tacit agreement...". This process ultimately determines who will sit as President of the United States; tacit agreements should have nothing to do with it. I really have no idea why our election process is so wonky. I mean, really, can't we just get our act together and decide on a reasonable process?
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