Iowa Democratic County Convention Results- Where to find??

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The popular vote was never recorded, and Bernie likely won that.

LOL says who?

Bernie tended to do best in the large Democratic counties, which have fewer delegates per resident, and especially fewer delegates per voter.

I guess I can understand why you are so pathetically misguided if that is what you consider evidence.

I love how Hillary supporters just randomly insult when they're losing an argument.

[Ebsy]

Apparently the official count is 144 delegates for both Clinton and Sanders. Looks more like Sanders is abusing the caucus process than Clinton. Turning a 52-47 Clinton win into a 50-50 tie.

[Dr. Arch]

Where is everyone following this?

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Apparently the official count is 144 delegates for both Clinton and Sanders. Looks more like Sanders is abusing the caucus process than Clinton. Turning a 52-47 Clinton win into a 50-50 tie.

Precinct delegates are mostly normal people who can change their mind. Bernie is doing better now than he was doing before results came in on February 1st. I knew there was a decent chance Bernie would win Iowa in the end, but Hillary supporters are just in denial.

[IceSpear]

Maybe if we didn't have super delegates I would understand the people on here whining about this.

Did you not get the memo from the Sanders campaign? You guys are supposed to love super-delegates now, because he's going to use them to steal the nomination for him.



http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/12/us/politics/bernie-sanders.html?_r=0

Hahahahaha!!!

This is actually...a very strange statement. Bernie's very narrow path to the nomination is to pull off some miracles, pull ahead in pledged delegates and popular vote, and argue to the superdelegates that they should respect the will of the voters. And they would've been under tremendous pressure to do so. But in that statement, he actually seems to legitimize their role in the process. Which makes no sense, because if you do legitimize them, then Hillary is already the nominee.

Aside from the fact that Hillary is only 52% of the way to 2383 even with supers, this also acts as if the supers are locked in to Hillary. They aren't. They can change their mind at any time, they don't have to wait for Hillary's pledged delegate lead to go away. It's just two differing theories of how to switch them over. Your theory is basically forcing them to choose between voting Sanders or publicly saying they don't care about voters, Sanders's theory is that if he gets "close enough", they can be convinced to vote for him based on an electability argument.

52% of the way, as compared to Bernie's 24% of the way. There's no way to make up that deficit in a proportional system, period. As for the supers switching allegiances en masse just because they have a sudden revelation about him being "more electable"...never gonna happen.

[Beet]

Apparently the official count is 144 delegates for both Clinton and Sanders. Looks more like Sanders is abusing the caucus process than Clinton. Turning a 52-47 Clinton win into a 50-50 tie.

Precinct delegates are mostly normal people who can change their mind. Bernie is doing better now than he was doing before results came in on February 1st. I knew there was a decent chance Bernie would win Iowa in the end, but Hillary supporters are just in denial.

The Bernie folks and trying to make it hard for the Hillary folks so that they'll leave...

https://twitter.com/TanyaKeith/status/708808123532713984

[Landslide Lyndon]

Apparently the official count is 144 delegates for both Clinton and Sanders. Looks more like Sanders is abusing the caucus process than Clinton. Turning a 52-47 Clinton win into a 50-50 tie.

Precinct delegates are mostly normal people who can change their mind. Bernie is doing better now than he was doing before results came in on February 1st. I knew there was a decent chance Bernie would win Iowa in the end, but Hillary supporters are just in denial.

The Bernie folks and trying to make it hard for the Hillary folks so that they'll leave...

https://twitter.com/TanyaKeith/status/708808123532713984

It's amazing how the Sanders campaign is constantly whining about how the evil Clintonites are trying to steal the election when it's them that constantly engage in dirty tricks.

[Boston Bread]

lol Caucuses

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Apparently the official count is 144 delegates for both Clinton and Sanders. Looks more like Sanders is abusing the caucus process than Clinton. Turning a 52-47 Clinton win into a 50-50 tie.

Precinct delegates are mostly normal people who can change their mind. Bernie is doing better now than he was doing before results came in on February 1st. I knew there was a decent chance Bernie would win Iowa in the end, but Hillary supporters are just in denial.

The Bernie folks and trying to make it hard for the Hillary folks so that they'll leave...

https://twitter.com/TanyaKeith/status/708808123532713984

It's amazing how the Sanders campaign is constantly whining about how the evil Clintonites are trying to steal the election when it's them that constantly engage in dirty tricks.

The replies to that tweet indicate they're full of sh**t.

[Lief 🗽]

Final count from Polk seems to be Clinton 115 to Sanders 113.

[Beet]

https://twitter.com/kimfrederi/status/708820228285726720

[Antonio the Sixth]

These sorts of shenanigans aren't good for anyone.

[Smash255]

Looks like Clinton 511 County delegates to 503 for Sanders which breakss out to 115-113 state level delegates.  The state delegte equiv's appear to have been 121-105-2 on Election night. 

[Dr. Arch]

Looks like Clinton 511 County delegates to 503 for Sanders which breakss out to 115-113 state level delegates.  The state delegte equiv's appear to have been 121-105-2 on Election night. 

Wow, that's a huge change.

[Beet]

"Patty Glaser • 23 minutes ago
Kcci get the facts straight. The first count was incorrect. Even a Bernie person stood up ( after we had been checked in for 3 hours) asking why he was listed as a Hillary person vs a Clinton. Others came forward with the opposite issue. Quite a few Clinton people were checked in as Bernie. Then a recount happened. Hillary people had to fill out a card and then were rechecked in. The count for Hillary went up a lot and Bernie went down. Then the Bernie people asked to recount the Hillary people and the count was similar. hillary had more. Both sides agreed to count. Then the 8 omalley people selected. 6 Hillary and 2 Bernie. But Bernie team disagreed and felt there was one more Malley on there side ( yup 2 plus six equals 9) so the Hillary people said fine take one. Then the Polk county people said no lets recount again. Many people left. The count dropped to almost equal. Then the Bernie people had a sit in and made everyone wait 3 hours while they determined who got to go to districts. The results should be similar to caucus night. The first count was messed up. Maybe the people checking folks in were the problem? Over 500 people were no shows and I think what happened is they let alternates in without making sure the alternate replaced the candidate they were an alternate for!"

http://www.kcci.com/news/supporters-leave-county-democratic-convention-in-frustration/38484946

[Smash255]

Looks like Clinton 511 County delegates to 503 for Sanders which breakss out to 115-113 state level delegates.  The state delegte equiv's appear to have been 121-105-2 on Election night. 

Wow, that's a huge change.

Trying to see if I can find county delegate data for Polk from Election Day to see if it would give any indication if the change had to do with more Bernie delegates showing up than Clinton ones, or if it would show that some Clinton delegates may have switched.

Either way it was a swing of +16 for Clinton to +2 for Clinton at state delegates, which depending on the results elsewhere in the state would be enough to flip that last delegate to Sanders.  It would not be enough to flip CD-3.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Seriously, end caucuses now.

[Ebsy]

We won't really know how the delegates are apportioned for quite some time. There were 98 other county caucuses that we don't have results for (apparently the Black Hawk County convention had problems as well) and we still have CD conventions and the statewide convention. It really is impossible to draw conclusions from the result in Polk.

[Smash255]

We won't really know how the delegates are apportioned for quite some time. There were 98 other county caucuses that we don't have results for (apparently the Black Hawk County convention had problems as well) and we still have CD conventions and the statewide convention. It really is impossible to draw conclusions from the result in Polk.

True, there are still multiple stages left, the best we can do at this point is estimate and without knowing the results in the other counties it is really hard to know much of anything.

[IceSpear]

Seriously, end caucuses now.

Please. This is utterly ludicrous. I don't know how these travesties of democracy flew under the radar for so long, but I'm glad they're finally getting attention. There's literally no good argument to keep them, other than "muh traditionz"

[RI]

Looks like Clinton 511 County delegates to 503 for Sanders which breakss out to 115-113 state level delegates.  The state delegte equiv's appear to have been 121-105-2 on Election night.  

Wow, that's a huge change.

Trying to see if I can find county delegate data for Polk from Election Day to see if it would give any indication if the change had to do with more Bernie delegates showing up than Clinton ones, or if it would show that some Clinton delegates may have switched.

County Delegates elected from the Polk County precinct caucuses were 638 Clinton, 554 Sanders, 8 O'Malley (1200 total). Only 1040 delegates showed in Polk today. Based on the final count, Sanders lost 45 while Clinton lost 107.

[Oak Hills]

Seriously, end caucuses now.

Seriously, they've been disastrous across the board this year.

[Shadows]

Seriously, end caucuses now.

Please. This is utterly ludicrous. I don't know how these travesties of democracy flew under the radar for so long, but I'm glad they're finally getting attention. There's literally no good argument to keep them, other than "muh traditionz"

I agree with you - End this stupidity & we can put to the rest finally all this bad blood which is being created for no good reason - There is no reason for animosity between candidates or supporters due to "The nature of the voting"

[Dr. Arch]

Looks like Clinton 511 County delegates to 503 for Sanders which breakss out to 115-113 state level delegates.  The state delegte equiv's appear to have been 121-105-2 on Election night.  

Wow, that's a huge change.

Trying to see if I can find county delegate data for Polk from Election Day to see if it would give any indication if the change had to do with more Bernie delegates showing up than Clinton ones, or if it would show that some Clinton delegates may have switched.

County Delegates elected from the Polk County precinct caucuses were 638 Clinton, 554 Sanders, 8 O'Malley (1200 total). Only 1040 delegates showed in Polk today. Based on the final count, Sanders lost 45 while Clinton lost 107.

So a net -62 for Hillary, certainly enough to swing the state should things hold relatively the same.

[Smash255]

Looks like Clinton 511 County delegates to 503 for Sanders which breakss out to 115-113 state level delegates.  The state delegte equiv's appear to have been 121-105-2 on Election night.  

Wow, that's a huge change.

Trying to see if I can find county delegate data for Polk from Election Day to see if it would give any indication if the change had to do with more Bernie delegates showing up than Clinton ones, or if it would show that some Clinton delegates may have switched.

County Delegates elected from the Polk County precinct caucuses were 638 Clinton, 554 Sanders, 8 O'Malley (1200 total). Only 1040 delegates showed in Polk today. Based on the final count, Sanders lost 45 while Clinton lost 107.

So a net -62 for Hillary, certainly enough to swing the state should things hold relatively the same.

Looks like she picked up ground elsewhere, some slight changes on the CD level, but the state level is basically where we were


http://iowademocrats.org/iowa-democratic-county-convention-results/