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« Reply #75 on: March 12, 2016, 10:45:37 PM »

Clinton gained most in Pottawattamie, Black Hawk, Cerro Gordo, and Johnson Counties.
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« Reply #76 on: March 12, 2016, 10:58:52 PM »

Well, we can obviously trust the state party run by someone with a license plate of HRC2016.
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« Reply #77 on: March 12, 2016, 11:02:26 PM »

Well, we can obviously trust the state party run by someone with a license plate of HRC2016.
Just get over it.  Goddamn, you make people hate Bernie more and more everyday.
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« Reply #78 on: March 12, 2016, 11:05:19 PM »

This is what a Bernie supporter said about Polk -

I'm here at our Dem Polk County Convention. Hillary initially won Polk County the night of the caucus.

The preliminary numbers are as follows. Hillary 530; Bernie 600. Polk county has unofficially flipped to Bernie.

Hill camp does not like the numbers. They are completely freaking out. The Hill camp changed the rules and ordered all Bernie supporters leave the room, and again and be counted one by one. It's taking a long time. All 600 of us had to leave, wait in a hot atrium and file in individually and be checked off.

Bernie dem leaders told us that she's trying to wear is down. They're hoping we will leave. Many Bernie supporters with disabilities and many senior citizens toughing it out.

Apparently the County Chair had to quit after trying to manipulate 3 times
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« Reply #79 on: March 12, 2016, 11:06:10 PM »

This is what a Bernie supporter said about Polk -

I'm here at our Dem Polk County Convention. Hillary initially won Polk County the night of the caucus.

The preliminary numbers are as follows. Hillary 530; Bernie 600. Polk county has unofficially flipped to Bernie.

Hill camp does not like the numbers. They are completely freaking out. The Hill camp changed the rules and ordered all Bernie supporters leave the room, and again and be counted one by one. It's taking a long time. All 600 of us had to leave, wait in a hot atrium and file in individually and be checked off.

Bernie dem leaders told us that she's trying to wear is down. They're hoping we will leave. Many Bernie supporters with disabilities and many senior citizens toughing it out.

Apparently the County Chair had to quit after trying to manipulate 3 times

lol sure
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« Reply #80 on: March 12, 2016, 11:09:37 PM »

Well, we can obviously trust the state party run by someone with a license plate of HRC2016.
Just get over it.  Goddamn, you make people hate Bernie more and more everyday.

And people like Landslide Lyndon don't make you hate Hillary? What a joke.
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« Reply #81 on: March 12, 2016, 11:12:40 PM »

Looks like Clinton 511 County delegates to 503 for Sanders which breakss out to 115-113 state level delegates.  The state delegte equiv's appear to have been 121-105-2 on Election night.  

Wow, that's a huge change.

Trying to see if I can find county delegate data for Polk from Election Day to see if it would give any indication if the change had to do with more Bernie delegates showing up than Clinton ones, or if it would show that some Clinton delegates may have switched.

County Delegates elected from the Polk County precinct caucuses were 638 Clinton, 554 Sanders, 8 O'Malley (1200 total). Only 1040 delegates showed in Polk today. Based on the final count, Sanders lost 45 while Clinton lost 107.

So a net -62 for Hillary, certainly enough to swing the state should things hold relatively the same.

Looks like she picked up ground elsewhere, some slight changes on the CD level, but the state level is basically where we were


http://iowademocrats.org/iowa-democratic-county-convention-results/

Good. It would've been ugly if the results were significantly altered, in either direction.

But apparently, this isn't even Iowa's final form. FFS.

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« Reply #82 on: March 12, 2016, 11:17:43 PM »

Looks like Clinton 511 County delegates to 503 for Sanders which breakss out to 115-113 state level delegates.  The state delegte equiv's appear to have been 121-105-2 on Election night.  

Wow, that's a huge change.

Trying to see if I can find county delegate data for Polk from Election Day to see if it would give any indication if the change had to do with more Bernie delegates showing up than Clinton ones, or if it would show that some Clinton delegates may have switched.

County Delegates elected from the Polk County precinct caucuses were 638 Clinton, 554 Sanders, 8 O'Malley (1200 total). Only 1040 delegates showed in Polk today. Based on the final count, Sanders lost 45 while Clinton lost 107.

So a net -62 for Hillary, certainly enough to swing the state should things hold relatively the same.

Looks like she picked up ground elsewhere, some slight changes on the CD level, but the state level is basically where we were


http://iowademocrats.org/iowa-democratic-county-convention-results/

Good. It would've been ugly if the results were significantly altered, in either direction.

But apparently, this isn't even Iowa's final form. FFS.

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Funny how we didn't hear anything about the counties were Hillary gained? It's only a 11 hour crazy marathon of trying to get people to leave when Bernie gains.
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« Reply #83 on: March 12, 2016, 11:33:57 PM »

This is a freaking mess. Kill the caucuses now!
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« Reply #84 on: March 13, 2016, 03:25:04 AM »

Well, we can obviously trust the state party run by someone with a license plate of HRC2016.
Just get over it.  Goddamn, you make people hate Bernie more and more everyday.

I'm starting to suspect that jfern is actually a Clinton plant whose purpose is to post all these ridiculous conspiracy theories and hysterical personal attacks to embarrass Sanders and his followers.
Otherwise he is a clinical case.
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« Reply #85 on: March 13, 2016, 03:41:45 AM »

This is what a Bernie supporter said about Polk -

I'm here at our Dem Polk County Convention. Hillary initially won Polk County the night of the caucus.

The preliminary numbers are as follows. Hillary 530; Bernie 600. Polk county has unofficially flipped to Bernie.

Hill camp does not like the numbers. They are completely freaking out. The Hill camp changed the rules and ordered all Bernie supporters leave the room, and again and be counted one by one. It's taking a long time. All 600 of us had to leave, wait in a hot atrium and file in individually and be checked off.

Bernie dem leaders told us that she's trying to wear is down. They're hoping we will leave. Many Bernie supporters with disabilities and many senior citizens toughing it out.

Apparently the County Chair had to quit after trying to manipulate 3 times
These lies have already been thoroughly debunked.
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« Reply #86 on: March 13, 2016, 03:59:39 AM »
« Edited: March 13, 2016, 04:01:29 AM by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ »

Here's an image of the original counts before Hillary hacks spent hours stalling so that they could disenfranchise voters. Of course they told Bernie supporters they could leave.



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« Reply #87 on: March 13, 2016, 05:37:59 AM »

This is what a Bernie supporter said about Polk -

I'm here at our Dem Polk County Convention. Hillary initially won Polk County the night of the caucus.

The preliminary numbers are as follows. Hillary 530; Bernie 600. Polk county has unofficially flipped to Bernie.

Hill camp does not like the numbers. They are completely freaking out. The Hill camp changed the rules and ordered all Bernie supporters leave the room, and again and be counted one by one. It's taking a long time. All 600 of us had to leave, wait in a hot atrium and file in individually and be checked off.

Bernie dem leaders told us that she's trying to wear is down. They're hoping we will leave. Many Bernie supporters with disabilities and many senior citizens toughing it out.

Apparently the County Chair had to quit after trying to manipulate 3 times
These lies have already been thoroughly debunked.

This is a pattern now - Iowa, NH & many states had videos of Hillary violating rules, County Chairs resorting to immoral practices like say Voting is over & let few Sanders supporters leave & then count. Below is what a person who attention the Convention in New Mexico said. You may chose to believe or not, but his is becoming a pattern.

Just because you don't like something it doesn't become a lie - Don't make such ridiculous statements


I attended the New Mexico Democratic Party Pre-Primary Convention today as an elected delegate. The convention today was important for a few couple reasons. Delegates get to vote on our state democratic party's platform and we have a straw poll where the county delegates vote for their presidential candidate.
The straw poll is important because there are super-delegates at the convention (and even the super-delegates not there will find out the results of the poll) and they can see how the party members are voting and which presidential candidates have local support. It's one of the best opportunities to show that Bernie has a lot of support from active members in the NM democratic party. The way the vote was supposed to happen was delegates would receive a card in their registration packet and sometime during the convention they could put the card in the Bernie or Hillary box. I arrived and was amazed at all the support Bernie had at the convention. They had Caucuses for the candidates before the meeting started and the Bernie side was packed. It was obvious how the straw poll would play out and we were excited. A few minutes before it begins word gets around that the poll has been canceled by Debra Haaland, Chairwoman of the Democratic Party of New Mexico because she was "concerned about the integrity of the poll". Word around the convention is that she is a known Hillary supporter when she is supposed to be impartial as chairwoman. People are pretty upset and are chanting for a straw poll, but we never get one. The best we got was when we had a chance to speak about the platform a supporter asked all the Bernie supporters to stand up and I would say around 70% of us stood and cheered and that's guessing on the conservative side, but nothing formal will be logged and that would have been really useful for the campaign.
Debra Haaland has done a few pro Hillary things this year, but one other item related to the convention was that she changed how out party's platform would be implemented. Usually they have county meetings and the counties put together resolutions and those resolutions go to the state convention and the delegates vote to have those as our platform. Some notable resolutions put forth this year are support of the 15 dollar minimum wage, solar energy, no fracking, no coal, limits to predatory lending from payday loans, and lots of other great items. This year before the convention we were told that a team already put together our platform and none of the resolutions from local counties were going to make it to the platform. It went from a large document that talked about specific issues to a 4 page vague document that was basically handed down from national. We tried to vote down the document today and it needs a +60% majority vote to pass and I haven't heard anything about the results yet, but will be keeping an eye out for it. I don't have much faith in the local party leaders ability to be impartial right now.
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« Reply #88 on: March 13, 2016, 04:22:45 PM »

Shows the Bernie folks' complete disrespect of democracy. Reminds me of Ron Paul supporters in '12.

Come on, a lot of Hillary supporters switched to supporting Bernie, just like 8 years ago a lot of Hillary supporters switched to supporting Obama.

A comment like that says you fundamentally have no regard for the democratic process.

If you support sequestering people for 8 hours because you don't like the vote, then you are the one with no regard for the democratic process.

I have no idea what you are talking about. The caucus system is undemocratic as it is, but overturning the result at higher level conventions removes any semblance of democracy from it.
A caucus system more resembles a representative form of government. Those who participated in the precinct caucus chose their representatives to the county meeting. They could have chosen someone who would have reliably shown up, or they could have chosen someone who could intelligently reconsider their initial support, or they have chosen Robbie Robot.
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« Reply #89 on: March 13, 2016, 04:37:24 PM »

My god, I really can't wait until Bernie loses and his insane conspiracy theorist fanatics f[inks] off to the green party or whatever, where they belong.
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« Reply #90 on: March 13, 2016, 07:25:34 PM »

Seriously, end the United States of America now.

Please. This is utterly ludicrous. I don't know how these travesties of democracy flew under the radar for so long, but I'm glad they're finally getting attention. There's literally no good argument to keep them, other than "muh traditionz"
To be fair, pretty much nothing about your country has any good argument to keep it other than "muh traditionz"...
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« Reply #91 on: March 13, 2016, 07:35:53 PM »

Seriously, end the United States of America now.

Please. This is utterly ludicrous. I don't know how these travesties of democracy flew under the radar for so long, but I'm glad they're finally getting attention. There's literally no good argument to keep them, other than "muh traditionz"
To be fair, pretty much nothing about your country has any good argument to keep it other than "muh traditionz"...

Isn't a literal fascist currently leading the polls in your country? I'd tend to your own garden first.
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