Democratic Ides of March Tuesday results thread (first polls close at 7pm ET)

[Boston Bread]

The polls were actually pretty good this time around. I guess they adjusted their models after MI and it payed off.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

hahahahahahahah

Discuss.

[Smash255]

Just got home so not sure if it was adressed in other posts, but what the hell happened in Orange County??  Putting aside Ohio's shocker, Sanders's overall margin in NC wasn't all that bad, but how exactly is he only winning an extremely liberal county by two points??

[Boston Bread]

Just got home so not sure if it was adressed in other posts, but what the hell happened in Orange County??  Putting aside Ohio's shocker, Sanders's overall margin in NC wasn't all that bad, but how exactly is he only winning an extremely liberal county by two points??

High income latte liberals are an Obama 2008 -> Hillary 2016 constituency. If I recall, the county voted for SSM in 2012, so it probably fits the bill.

[Shadows]

Ohio was a bad, can't sad I'm too disappointed with Illinois. We put a really close fight & got close. A Missouri win. A good performance in NC.

Ohio was not good, look @ the break-up & the gop one, independents deserted Sanders for Kasich, killed him - To an extent same thing happened in Illinois as I can't see Kasich winning this many states/

Florida looks bad too, 33% odd - He needed close to 40%, big delegates & huge difference.

The numbers look almost impossible now - I can't see Bernie making these up especially when he will lose big states like New York, Maryland for sure and even if he wins CA or PA, those will be small victories.

I want him to get as close as possible to ensure his agenda is not relegated to the back-ground. I don't think his candidacy ever looked very winnable but he should not roll over & let the issues be sidelined

[Wiz in Wis]

Ohio was a bad, can't sad I'm too disappointed with Illinois. We put a really close fight & got close. A Missouri win. A good performance in NC.

Ohio was not good, look @ the break-up & the gop one, independents deserted Sanders for Kasich, killed him - To an extent same thing happened in Illinois as I can't see Kasich winning this many states/

Florida looks bad too, 33% odd - He needed close to 40%, big delegates & huge difference.

The numbers look almost impossible now - I can't see Bernie making these up especially when he will lose big states like New York, Maryland for sure and even if he wins CA or PA, those will be small victories.

I want him to get as close as possible to ensure his agenda is not relegated to the back-ground. I don't think his candidacy ever looked very winnable but he should not roll over & let the issues be sidelined

I definitely do not want Bernie to drop out. He has no reason to. He has run a good campaign, and as  Hillary supporter, I appreciate the focus on very important issues he has highlighted. Also, on a personal, selfish reason, I am glad that Bernie will be driving up the vote in WI on April 5... very important Supreme Court race and we definitively need the energy on the D side that Tuesday.

[Clarko95 📚💰📈]

Hope that 41,000 vote margin for Hillary holds in Illinois!

[IceSpear]

Ohio was a bad, can't sad I'm too disappointed with Illinois. We put a really close fight & got close. A Missouri win. A good performance in NC.

Ohio was not good, look @ the break-up & the gop one, independents deserted Sanders for Kasich, killed him - To an extent same thing happened in Illinois as I can't see Kasich winning this many states/

Florida looks bad too, 33% odd - He needed close to 40%, big delegates & huge difference.

The numbers look almost impossible now - I can't see Bernie making these up especially when he will lose big states like New York, Maryland for sure and even if he wins CA or PA, those will be small victories.

I want him to get as close as possible to ensure his agenda is not relegated to the back-ground. I don't think his candidacy ever looked very winnable but he should not roll over & let the issues be sidelined

I definitely do not want Bernie to drop out. He has no reason to. He has run a good campaign, and as  Hillary supporter, I appreciate the focus on very important issues he has highlighted. Also, on a personal, selfish reason, I am glad that Bernie will be driving up the vote in WI on April 5... very important Supreme Court race and we definitively need the energy on the D side that Tuesday.

As a Hillary supporter in 08, I can understand his and his supporters desire to fight on even if the path is close to nonexistent. That said, I hope he tones down his attacks on her now that the end result is inevitable.

[user12345]

When my home county is the only county that hasn't reported their results in the whole state....

Not that anyone cares.... But Bernie won my home county by 1 vote. Pretty cool.

[Joe Biden 2020]

What prevents us from making a projection in Missouri?

[IceSpear]

Bernie could pushed under 50% in MO. Can't see him actually losing it though. They're just being careful I guess.

[Xing]

Well, I missed all the excitement. Looks like MO, IL, and NC were decent for Sanders, but because of his abysmal results in OH and FL, it was an awful night for him overall. I don't think anyone can deny that Clinton will win the nomination at this point, but I don't think it's time for Sanders to drop out just yet. Let his supporters have their say, then once Clinton officially crosses the finish line, we can work toward unity.

[Wiz in Wis]

What prevents us from making a projection in Missouri?

Based on what's left, we're looking at a Sanders win of about 3k. Pretty close, no reason to jump the call. Also, probably an even split in delegates.

Illinois looking safer and safer for Hillary though. That raw vote is holding pretty steady.

[Crumpets]

I've been away for about an hour. What's the status of Illinois? Does anybody know where the remaining vote is out?

[cinyc]

What prevents us from making a projection in Missouri?

About half of St. Louis City and part of St. Louis County are out.  If it's the African-American parts of those areas that are out, things can change.

[Holmes]

I've been away for about an hour. What's the status of Illinois? Does anybody know where the remaining vote is out?

Well, Lake county just came in big. 90% in and Clinton still leads. There's still some left in Cook, Lake, DuPage, McHenry, LaSalle and some more here and there, but it won't be enough. It looks like a Clinton win.

[Wiz in Wis]

I've been away for about an hour. What's the status of Illinois? Does anybody know where the remaining vote is out?

A lot of Lake just came in, margin unchanged. McHenry is only big part of IL out that leans Sanders. Hard to see him winning IL, or her winning MO.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

up by only 2.0%. Ugh soooo close.

[Shadows]

What prevents us from making a projection in Missouri?

Based on what's left, we're looking at a Sanders win of about 3k. Pretty close, no reason to jump the call. Also, probably an even split in delegates.

Illinois looking safer and safer for Hillary though. That raw vote is holding pretty steady.

83% of St. Louis & 89% of Kansas City is in - If the vote proportion remains the same, Hillary gains at best 4K, so Sanders should win a comfortable 6K.

Illinois will get closer & will probably be a 20-25K loss instead of 40-45K due to McHenry which has barely come in & where Sanders will make up good votes

[Koharu]

I definitely do not want Bernie to drop out. He has no reason to. He has run a good campaign, and as  Hillary supporter, I appreciate the focus on very important issues he has highlighted. Also, on a personal, selfish reason, I am glad that Bernie will be driving up the vote in WI on April 5... very important Supreme Court race and we definitively need the energy on the D side that Tuesday.

Agreed.

As a Bernie supporter (who will vote for Hillary in the GE without whining about it), I also think it benefits Hillary for Bernie to stay in. She's able to continue addressing issues in a sane manner. If Bernie dropped, she would have to start going head to head with Trump, and while she can still do that and stay civilized, it'll be better for her to put off that fight and slowly work up to it.

[cinyc]

83% of St. Louis & 89% of Kansas City is in - If the vote proportion remains the same, Hillary gains at best 4K, so Sanders should win a comfortable 6K.

Illinois will get closer & will probably be a 20-25K loss instead of 40-45K due to McHenry which has barely come in & where Sanders will make up good votes

Remember - there's a St. Louis County and a St. Louis City.  St. Louis City is only 57% reporting.

[Wiz in Wis]

Rachel Maddow saying that Bernie outspent Hillary in MO by nearly 3-1. If she had any inkling that Ohio would be a rout, she could have moved $$/staff around and swept.

Also... if Bernie has to outspend Hillary 3-1 to TIE in a state we all thought he would have an advantage in, his $$$ are not going to help him as much as we all thought.

[psychprofessor]

I definitely do not want Bernie to drop out. He has no reason to. He has run a good campaign, and as  Hillary supporter, I appreciate the focus on very important issues he has highlighted. Also, on a personal, selfish reason, I am glad that Bernie will be driving up the vote in WI on April 5... very important Supreme Court race and we definitively need the energy on the D side that Tuesday.

Agreed.

As a Bernie supporter (who will vote for Hillary in the GE without whining about it), I also think it benefits Hillary for Bernie to stay in. She's able to continue addressing issues in a sane manner. If Bernie dropped, she would have to start going head to head with Trump, and while she can still do that and stay civilized, it'll be better for her to put off that fight and slowly work up to it.

If Bernie dropped out wouldn't she have to use GE funds from that point forward? I remember reading something to that effect...anyone know?

[ProgressiveCanadian]

What prevents us from making a projection in Missouri?

Based on what's left, we're looking at a Sanders win of about 3k. Pretty close, no reason to jump the call. Also, probably an even split in delegates.

Illinois looking safer and safer for Hillary though. That raw vote is holding pretty steady.

83% of St. Louis & 89% of Kansas City is in - If the vote proportion remains the same, Hillary gains at best 4K, so Sanders should win a comfortable 6K.

Illinois will get closer & will probably be a 20-25K loss instead of 40-45K due to McHenry which has barely come in & where Sanders will make up good votes

Recount? LOL

[Wiz in Wis]

I definitely do not want Bernie to drop out. He has no reason to. He has run a good campaign, and as  Hillary supporter, I appreciate the focus on very important issues he has highlighted. Also, on a personal, selfish reason, I am glad that Bernie will be driving up the vote in WI on April 5... very important Supreme Court race and we definitively need the energy on the D side that Tuesday.

Agreed.

As a Bernie supporter (who will vote for Hillary in the GE without whining about it), I also think it benefits Hillary for Bernie to stay in. She's able to continue addressing issues in a sane manner. If Bernie dropped, she would have to start going head to head with Trump, and while she can still do that and stay civilized, it'll be better for her to put off that fight and slowly work up to it.

If Bernie dropped out wouldn't she have to use GE funds from that point forward? I remember reading something to that effect...anyone know?

I thought it was pre/post convention - not candidates