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« on: June 03, 2005, 09:15:20 AM »

Genetics is a major factor in tendency to commit murder.
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« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2005, 09:23:41 AM »

Genetics is a major factor in tendency to commit murder.

I'm pretty sure this is sarcasm, but actually it can be. Genetics and brain chemistry can affect behavioral patterns(however, as humans we do have the ability to choose and reason, so it's not an excuse for the act of murder). For instance, some people have 3 chromosomes instead of 2 - one section of these are men who have 2 Y chromosomes and 1 X. Having 2 Y chromosomes generally inceases aggressive tendencies. Studies have shown that there are a good number of such people in prison populations, greater than the ratio in the population at large.

No, not sarcasm. It's the truth.
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A18
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« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2005, 10:44:14 AM »

The government shouldn't get involved, but correcting the gene would be a great advance for humanity.
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A18
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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2005, 11:13:45 AM »

As I said before, genetics has been connected to murder tendencies. I doubt God wants people to murder, but I could be wrong.

The fact that something is, is not an indication that God supports it.
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A18
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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2005, 11:59:52 AM »

It would certainly be a great advance for humanity to wipe out homosexuality disorder for good.
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A18
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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2005, 03:57:10 PM »

Well, certainly, much like bipolar disorder, I would imagine homosexuality disorder is linked to genetics. However, we tend to think of things such as bipolar and homosexuality as 'unnatural' in the sense that they are not the way things ought to work. Nevertheless, one can consider anything a disorder, and anything 'natural.'
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A18
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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2005, 10:27:18 PM »

If that is the case then so much for the Land of the Free that's all I can say Sad

What does freedom have to do with acceptance?
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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2005, 05:45:38 PM »

Especially for the foreign posters, I can't stress this fact enough: In the United States, homosexuality is a condition/behavior that is truly despised even among self-described liberals.

Am I the only one who not only finds this comment inaccurate, but disturbing as well?

It's true of all the liberals I know.
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A18
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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2005, 05:56:46 PM »


All I know is that they hate Bush. Not that I talk about politics with them much, but you know, the sort of thing comes up.

This is more people I know from prior years. I spend a lot less time at school now.
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A18
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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2005, 06:00:57 PM »

One of them is a socialist.

Anyway, I didn't say they were intolerant of homosexuals, just that being gay is something dispised almost universally from what I've seen.
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A18
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« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2005, 06:05:27 PM »

This board is not really a good indicator of the general population, though. A poll here showed a majority supported repealing the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
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A18
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« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2005, 07:04:19 PM »

Well, yes, much like the mentally ill often refuse to take meds, and insist there's nothing wrong with them.
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A18
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« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2005, 01:24:40 PM »

Yes, but not because your homosexuality disorder. That's just a subconscious error, the tendency for which may be encoded genetically. Though much like with murderers, I would not say that all homosexuals are the product of genetics.

And yes, genes are inherited. What a, um, stunning revelation... All kinds of disorders are genetic in nature.
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A18
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« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2005, 01:40:50 PM »

Since sexuality is mental, anyone who says homosexuality is not mental is a braindead idiot.

As for genes, it's already been pointed out that the tendency for a number of things we deem improper, including murder, are genetic. It's a non-issue.
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A18
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« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2005, 08:08:57 PM »

Since sexuality is mental, anyone who says homosexuality is not mental is a braindead idiot.

Just a suggestion: If you want any more people than the ones who agree with you to take you seriously, don't say stupid things like that.  It's not PROVEN that sexuality is genetic and until then everyone's entitled to their opinion.  I feel really stupid writing this...

Whether it is genetic or not changes nothing, and there is nothing 'stupid' about the segment of my post you quoted.

Additionally, whether it is genetic or not also does not change the fact that it's mental. Bipolar can certainly be inherited, but it is mental. Behavioral patterns are mental, so unless you think sexuality is not a behavioral pattern, then I can't believe you're refuting this.
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A18
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« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2005, 08:13:56 PM »

So why does God make people gay via their genes?

So why does God make people criminals via their genes?
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A18
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« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2005, 08:41:19 PM »

So why does God make people gay via their genes?

So why does God make people criminals via their genes?

Hopefully that question isn't aimed at me, because you'd be asking the wrong person.  Ask StatesRights, because he actually believes in God.  I just use the subject for picking out fallacies in believers' arguments.  The one you asked right there is also a good one.

It's the equivalent of asking, "If there is a God, why aren't all people perfect?" It's a logical fallacy, because the former would not require the latter.
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