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« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2016, 02:17:16 PM »

Don't they realize that what they're doing will backfire. I'm against trump but what they're doing is against the law and also violates the free speech rights of trump supporters.
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« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2016, 02:21:52 PM »

Once more, fantastic news. Shut it down. Do not accept fascism lying down.

To anyone saying this will help Trump, literally /anything/ seems helps Trump (in the primary) at this point so it honestly doesn't matter.
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« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2016, 02:22:47 PM »

Don't they realize that what they're doing will backfire. I'm against trump but what they're doing is against the law and also violates the free speech rights of trump supporters.

Protesting is literally what free speech is about.
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« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2016, 02:23:53 PM »

Don't they realize that what they're doing will backfire. I'm against trump but what they're doing is against the law and also violates the free speech rights of trump supporters.

Protesting is literally what free speech is about.
Blocking people from going to a Trump rally isn't free speech, that's tyranny. You're preventing people to hear a different political perspective. Maybe you should move to North Korea dude.
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« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2016, 02:24:57 PM »

Free speech? Does that give a person the right to encourage violence as Trump has done? Regardless of whether you agree with a protester's right to protest or not, don't ignore the LOG in Trump's eye please.

Do we now live a world where anything goes? Trump can say and do anything he wants? He can lie all he wants and complain all he wants when his lies are challenged? Moral Relativity thy name is Trump.
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« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2016, 02:26:50 PM »
« Edited: March 19, 2016, 02:29:10 PM by 5280 »

Free speech? Does that give a person the right to encourage violence as Trump has done? Regardless of whether you agree with a protester's right to protest or not, don't ignore the LOG in Trump's eye please.

Do we now live a world where anything goes? Trump can say and do anything he wants? He can lie all he wants and complain all he wants when his lies are challenged? Moral Relativity thy name is Trump.
I'd rather live in a world where almost anything goes, than having people using government coercion and using people to blockade others from hearing different political perspectives. It's obviously the Democratic party was hijacked by Socialists, tyranny, big government brown shirt cults.
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« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2016, 02:27:41 PM »

Don't they realize that what they're doing will backfire. I'm against trump but what they're doing is against the law and also violates the free speech rights of trump supporters.

Protesting is literally what free speech is about.
Blocking people from going to a Trump rally isn't free speech, that's tyranny. You're preventing people to hear a different political perspective. Maybe you should move to North Korea dude.
Protesting is exercising free speech. Without it, there would be no United States. People are allowed to speak out against politicians, especially those who advocate violence and race-baiting. If you disagree with that, then perhaps it's you who belongs in North Korea.
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« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2016, 02:28:44 PM »

Don't they realize that what they're doing will backfire. I'm against trump but what they're doing is against the law and also violates the free speech rights of trump supporters.

Protesting is literally what free speech is about.
Blocking people from going to a Trump rally isn't free speech, that's tyranny. You're preventing people to hear a different political perspective. Maybe you should move to North Korea dude.
Protesting is exercising free speech. Without it, there would be no United States. People are allowed to speak out against politicians, especially those who advocate violence and race-baiting. If you disagree with that, then perhaps it's you who belongs in North Korea.
You're putting words in my mouth, I never said protesting isn't free speech. Blocking people from going to a rally is tyranny.
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« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2016, 02:30:51 PM »

Don't they realize that what they're doing will backfire. I'm against trump but what they're doing is against the law and also violates the free speech rights of trump supporters.

Protesting is literally what free speech is about.
Blocking people from going to a Trump rally isn't free speech, that's tyranny. You're preventing people to hear a different political perspective. Maybe you should move to North Korea dude.
Protesting is exercising free speech. Without it, there would be no United States. People are allowed to speak out against politicians, especially those who advocate violence and race-baiting. If you disagree with that, then perhaps it's you who belongs in North Korea.
You're putting words in my mouth, I never said protesting isn't free speech. Blocking people from going to a rally is tyranny.
Blocking main roads is a common form of protest. Dunno where you've been.
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« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2016, 02:37:44 PM »

Love seeing right wingers freaking out over blocking roads. Yes we are the crazy ones, you guys only want to  ban a whole religion from the country. How patriotic.
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« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2016, 02:38:55 PM »

Love seeing right wingers freaking out over blocking roads. Yes we are the crazy ones, you guys only want to  ban a whole religion from the country. How patriotic.

typical leftist generalizing the right again
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« Reply #36 on: March 19, 2016, 02:44:34 PM »

Love seeing right wingers freaking out over blocking roads. Yes we are the crazy ones, you guys only want to  ban a whole religion from the country. How patriotic.

typical leftist generalizing the right again

Your right only 2/3 of your party Roll Eyes
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« Reply #37 on: March 19, 2016, 02:53:39 PM »

You can always find 100 people to protest against anything under the sun. More than a million people live in Phoenix and New York City. The silent majority isn't protesting. Why is the media giving so much coverage to the loud few?
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« Reply #38 on: March 19, 2016, 02:54:37 PM »

There were 60,000 people protesting Trump in Chicago lol
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« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2016, 03:08:36 PM »

These guys are great. Really appreciate all the work that they've done for the campaign.
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« Reply #40 on: March 19, 2016, 03:12:06 PM »

Free speech? Does that give a person the right to encourage violence as Trump has done? Regardless of whether you agree with a protester's right to protest or not, don't ignore the LOG in Trump's eye please.

Do we now live a world where anything goes? Trump can say and do anything he wants? He can lie all he wants and complain all he wants when his lies are challenged? Moral Relativity thy name is Trump.
I'd rather live in a world where almost anything goes, than having people using government coercion and using people to blockade others from hearing different political perspectives. It's obviously the Democratic party was hijacked by Socialists, tyranny, big government brown shirt cults.
I never condoned what these specific protesters are doing. Trump isn't exactly
supporting free speech for others. He lies and whines when called on his lies or in the case of Fox, his bigoted statements towards women.

You totally ignored the point. The question is does free speech include to
YELL FIRE! in a crowded auditorium? "Other are doing bad, that gives me the right
to be evil as well" That is a two year old argument. Trump rarely backs down from his demagoguery. Once in a while, true. He changed his view on torture. He won't do
anything illegal. He will make it Legal. That is how he changed on torture.
He is still the TORTURE candidate.
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« Reply #41 on: March 19, 2016, 03:12:13 PM »

Love seeing right wingers freaking out over blocking roads. Yes we are the crazy ones, you guys only want to  ban a whole religion from the country. How patriotic.

typical leftist generalizing the right again

Your right only 2/3 of your party Roll Eyes

I'm not even a right-winger.  I support Hillary.
I just don't want to see Trump elected because these idiot supporters are alienating everyone from the anti-Trump movement.  People are going to say "I don't want to be on the same side as those people!"
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« Reply #42 on: March 19, 2016, 03:14:57 PM »

This idea that Cruz doesn't at least start off favored in AZ continues to be ridiculous.



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« Reply #43 on: March 19, 2016, 03:16:16 PM »

You can't have it both ways. Either "civil disobedience" is wrong or it isn't. Honestly, I don't really know.
I am inclined to say it is, but not when it involves violence and certainly not if it involves murder.

What about anti-abortion protesters? Are you going to condemn them when they protest?
I am not referring to those who are terrorists and murderers, but to protests involving peaceful, albeit illegal, protests.
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« Reply #44 on: March 19, 2016, 03:21:56 PM »

Civil disobedience is OK if you have no other way of expressing your opinion (in dictatorships, where free speech is suspended, etc...)

Civil disobedience is not OK in a democracy that respects the right of free speech.
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« Reply #45 on: March 19, 2016, 03:24:50 PM »

My god Cleveland is going to be bedlam. Anti-Trump protestors will organize for weeks and descend on that city and raise awareness about his rhetoric and policies. What the media won't do protestors are doing - good for them!

And then what happens when Republicans start their shenanigans about changing the rules and switching delegates to deny Trump the nomination> You could have anti-Trump protestors outside and anti-Trump protestors INSIDE.

If there is any reason for the sadist in me to have Trump not reach the delegate threshold, it is to see how the Republicans would try and deny him the nomination and watch his rabid supporters blow the city up. My god, I can't even imagine what that would look like.

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« Reply #46 on: March 19, 2016, 03:26:39 PM »
« Edited: March 19, 2016, 03:39:09 PM by Lyin' Steve »

Civil disobedience is OK if you have no other way of expressing your opinion (in dictatorships, where free speech is suspended, etc...)

Civil disobedience is not OK in a democracy that respects the right of free speech.

This thread isn't even about free speech.  It is about an action, an action that has massive negative consequences on thousands of innocent people.  Surely every action isn't protected under free speech?  And just because you did an action in support of a cause doesn't make it suddenly protected.

As Reagan said fifty years ago:  "All of it began the first time those of you who know better, and are old enough to know better, let young people think that they had the right to choose the laws they would obey so long as they did it in the name of social protest."

https://youtu.be/Bpg0UfpuUAs?t=1m8s

Ronald Reagan, where have you gone...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBKDF7H4hyo
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« Reply #47 on: March 19, 2016, 03:46:41 PM »

Anyone purposely blocking a roadway and impeding traffic, and I mean for any reason, should be arrested immediately. That should be the response, if for no other reason than the fact that they're jeopardizing public safety. God forbid there should be an emergency, and first responders can't get through that area because of a blocked roadway. And I can almost guarantee that if the grandma or sister or other relative of one of the protesters was the one in need of unavailable assistance, you could count the minutes before the lawsuit was filed against the city.

Think, people. The principle is fairly straight forward...
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« Reply #48 on: March 19, 2016, 03:50:20 PM »

Anyone purposely blocking a roadway and impeding traffic, and I mean for any reason, should be arrested immediately. That should be the response, if for no other reason than the fact that they're jeopardizing public safety. God forbid there should be an emergency, and first responders can't get through that area because of a blocked roadway. And I can almost guarantee that if the grandma or sister or other relative of one of the protesters was the one in need of unavailable assistance, you could count the minutes before the lawsuit was filed against the city.

Think, people. The principle is fairly straight forward...

Wow how authoritarion of you. Remember these guys are protesting Trumps reteric.
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« Reply #49 on: March 19, 2016, 03:56:49 PM »

Anyone purposely blocking a roadway and impeding traffic, and I mean for any reason, should be arrested immediately. That should be the response, if for no other reason than the fact that they're jeopardizing public safety. God forbid there should be an emergency, and first responders can't get through that area because of a blocked roadway. And I can almost guarantee that if the grandma or sister or other relative of one of the protesters was the one in need of unavailable assistance, you could count the minutes before the lawsuit was filed against the city.

Think, people. The principle is fairly straight forward...

Wow how authoritarion of you. Remember these guys are protesting Trumps reteric.

He said for any reason.  Does the fact that they were protesting Trump's rhetoric make it ok to break the law?  Does that make it ok to break any law or just the ones that don't affect you?
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