Why does Trump do better with Republicans that live in less white areas?
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« on: March 19, 2016, 04:21:38 PM »

Other than 'they're racist' or whatever. In almost every state and area imaginable, where there's a high black or Hispanic population, there is a higher than average Trump vote in the Republican primary. We know Republican primaries are >90% white most of the time, so these are not necessarily black or Hispanic voters who have 'a great relationship' with Trump. Is it because these areas fit the Trump demographic - disaffected, poorer, blue collar, less education, etc? Or is there something else behind it?
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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2016, 04:23:14 PM »

Other than 'they're racist' or whatever. In almost every state and area imaginable, where there's a high black or Hispanic population, there is a higher than average Trump vote in the Republican primary. We know Republican primaries are >90% white most of the time, so these are not necessarily black or Hispanic voters who have 'a great relationship' with Trump. Is it because these areas fit the Trump demographic - disaffected, poorer, blue collar, less education, etc? Or is there something else behind it?

Why bother asking if you already know the answer?
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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2016, 04:23:34 PM »

Other than 'they're racist' or whatever. In almost every state and area imaginable, where there's a high black or Hispanic population, there is a higher than average Trump vote in the Republican primary. We know Republican primaries are >90% white most of the time, so these are not necessarily black or Hispanic voters who have 'a great relationship' with Trump. Is it because these areas fit the Trump demographic - disaffected, poorer, blue collar, less education, etc? Or is there something else behind it?

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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2016, 04:25:47 PM »

Familiarity breeds contempt.
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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2016, 04:28:26 PM »

So, prejudice/racism is the answer? I thought that was more of a left wing smear than a legitimate answer, but I guess not.
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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2016, 04:31:53 PM »

So, prejudice/racism is the answer? I thought that was more of a left wing smear than a legitimate answer, but I guess not.

I'd say both sides get more homogenized. You have uniformity in voting of both minorities and whites in mixed areas. I think it's just a normal consequence of two different groups of people living together and the majority group believing they are under siege by the minority group (Homogenization of minority groups is normal and expected).
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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2016, 04:51:38 PM »

Racial polarization is stronger in diverse areas.
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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2016, 04:58:30 PM »

One exception was in IL-07. It's a majority black CD that is mostly in Chicago, but includes some inner suburbs. The white areas include the downtown Loop and Oak Park. The Pub delegates in the CD were won by Kasich not Trump.
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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2016, 07:29:51 PM »

Probably for the same reason John McCain did so well in similar areas.
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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2016, 10:05:53 PM »

So, prejudice/racism is the answer? I thought that was more of a left wing smear than a legitimate answer, but I guess not.

Well:

The Civis Analytics polling over the past six months breaks down Trump support by Congressional district (yes, huge MoE, but it gives a rough idea), and there's overlap between where Trump is strongest in GOP primary support and where there's a disproportionately high share of "racially charged internet searches":



http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/31/upshot/donald-trumps-strongest-supporters-a-certain-kind-of-democrat.html

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« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2016, 07:24:25 AM »

Indeed.  One is less likely to blame the "other" for one's problems when there aren't many "other" around.
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« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2016, 11:54:12 AM »

I actually think it has more to do with income and education. Places where there are large concentrations of minorities are, unfortunately, usually places with lower median wages and lower overall education. Trump generally does well with lower income whites, and his popularity grows as you go down the ladder of education.

Racism is also still very much a part of it, but I feel that this result is more based on income/work type and education.
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« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2016, 05:30:15 PM »

So, prejudice/racism is the answer? I thought that was more of a left wing smear than a legitimate answer, but I guess not.

Well:

The Civis Analytics polling over the past six months breaks down Trump support by Congressional district (yes, huge MoE, but it gives a rough idea), and there's overlap between where Trump is strongest in GOP primary support and where there's a disproportionately high share of "racially charged internet searches":



http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/31/upshot/donald-trumps-strongest-supporters-a-certain-kind-of-democrat.html



the map on the right has very little correlation with racial/ethnic diversity.
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« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2016, 05:35:22 PM »

Isn't it the opposite in Europe? Don't far right parties traditionally do better in areas where there are less minorities?
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« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2016, 08:04:32 PM »

Because these cretins live near the objects of their affection.
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« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2016, 08:22:51 PM »

yeah... this didn't follow in MN either.  The blackest areas were Rubio's strongest areas while some of the whitest areas of the state (the Iron Range) were Trump's best (he still came in 2nd).
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« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2016, 08:54:05 PM »

I actually think it has more to do with income and education. Places where there are large concentrations of minorities are, unfortunately, usually places with lower median wages and lower overall education. Trump generally does well with lower income whites, and his popularity grows as you go down the ladder of education.

Racism is also still very much a part of it, but I feel that this result is more based on income/work type and education.
As a white man who once lived in Luis Gutierrez's district, I think this is the best answer so far.
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