Is being a fiscal con/social lib or a fiscal lib/social con more common?
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Question: Which ideology is more common?
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Fiscally conservative/socially liberal
 
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« on: March 19, 2016, 09:27:43 PM »
« edited: March 19, 2016, 09:29:58 PM by RR1997 »

I know this thread is way too simplistic. I apologize for that lol.

For the past couple of years, I've always been under the misconception that being fiscally conservative/socially liberal is more common than being fiscally liberal/socially conservative.  I think that the Interent has skewed my perception a bit.

The 2016 election has proven that being fiscally liberal/socially conservative is a lot more common than being fiscally conservative/socially liberal.
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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2016, 09:51:13 PM »
« Edited: March 19, 2016, 09:53:46 PM by muon2 »

I made some reasonable approximations in the other thread. If you are from IL then the FiscCon/SocLib outnumbers the FiscLib/SocCon about 2 to 1 based on the IL legislature. I take that group of 177 members as a reasonable sample of the state as a whole on the issue.

Of course the ratio will be different in other states.
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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2016, 09:55:01 PM »

Out of all of those terms, I think that "socially conservative" is the most easily definable, and thus least inclusive, one. With that in mind, I think you could stretch the first option to include more people than the second one, making it more common.
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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2016, 08:30:25 PM »

This article is kind of bizarre but it has a chart that would imply that the former group is slightly bigger.
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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2016, 08:23:33 PM »

I think we should evaluate it by state. For example, the latter is certainly more common in the Midwest in places like Michigan, but in the pacific northwest and colorado the former is probably true.
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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2016, 06:33:45 AM »

I think we should evaluate it by state. For example, the latter is certainly more common in the Midwest in places like Michigan, but in the pacific northwest and colorado the former is probably true.

In the Midwest it depends on whether there are big city suburban areas. As I showed, statistically the former group is larger in IL, if you put together both the Dem and Pub parts.
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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2016, 07:48:33 AM »

How do you define the "center" along either dimension?
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« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2016, 04:32:48 PM »

Given how Obama's been governing, and what Obamacare really is...easily the former. The DLC and New Democrats are nothing but the former.
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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2020, 01:32:06 PM »

2.The story of the trump era.
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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2020, 02:21:51 PM »

This is mostly a pointless exercise given how vague (or in some cases, just wrong) those terms can be, but most metrics I've seen suggest that the "communitarian quadrant" is much bigger than the "libertarian quadrant" in real life.
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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2020, 02:41:22 PM »

I think it really depends on how we define the terms and which issues we are talking about.
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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2020, 05:12:13 PM »

I voted number 1 (probably in 2016 when this was posted), but the answer is clearly number 2. "Fiscally conservative and socially liberal" is rare outside of the internet.
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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2020, 05:16:19 PM »

"Fiscally conservative and socially liberal" is rare outside of the internet.
It really isn't but it definitely has above average overlap with the media/think tanks/generally publicly relevant people.
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« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2020, 05:50:25 PM »

Among elected officials and journalists, the former.  Among the people, the latter.  Economically left and socially right is the most underrepresented viewpoint in our politics.
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« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2020, 09:50:12 PM »

Fiscal lib/social con seems obvious to me, and even more so after seeing Trump's popularity.

But we have to distinguish those who claim to be one of these 2 categories and those who actually are. Particularly for those who claim to be fiscally conservative and socially liberal, most cant give remotely accurate estimates of what percent of the budget different items are, so its hard to take them seriously.
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« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2020, 01:44:22 PM »

The latter is more common but less likely to make well informed decisions while voting. The former is overwhelming more likely to vote in primaries.
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