Current status of Guantanamo dentention center? Will it close by 1/20/17?
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« on: March 25, 2016, 09:23:08 PM »

Does anyone know what the current status of the Guantanamo detention center is, especially how many inmates remain?

Also... do you think it will it close (or be empty) by 1/20/17, when Obama leaves office??
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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2016, 01:25:52 AM »

It's going to be open for as long as possible.
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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2016, 03:29:36 AM »

Even if th Democrats take both the House and Senate this November, there is no way that Guantanamo closes in the seventeen days it might be possible.
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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2016, 02:11:31 PM »

Even if th Democrats take both the House and Senate this November, there is no way that Guantanamo closes in the seventeen days it might be possible.
But the President can still transfer prisoners out of it.
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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2016, 05:09:06 AM »

Even if th Democrats take both the House and Senate this November, there is no way that Guantanamo closes in the seventeen days it might be possible.
But the President can still transfer prisoners out of it.
For the most part, they can't be transferred to the general prison population and until current restrictions are repealed, necessary preparations for a transfer can't be made. I may be wrong, but I don't think Obama is so shallow he'd authorize shortcuts with potential security flaws just to meet an arbitrary deadline. Especially not when the failure to do so would give his Democratic successor a guaranteed accomplishment for her first hundred days.
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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2016, 08:06:30 AM »

Does anyone know what the current status of the Guantanamo detention center is, especially how many inmates remain?
a biased source (in the direction of closing it) says 91 still there, 37 of which "have been recommended for release by high-level governmental review processes", whatever that means.  And I see those two numbers over and over.

I'm guessing (hoping) there are good reasons for keeping those extra 37 there.  Perhaps it's because they can't go home or they'll be killed, and there ain't no place else for them?  For the remaining 54 actual "bad guys" I suppose a facility on actual US soil would be better, but I'm not really sure why.  What's the difference other than accessibility (us to them and them to us)?  Would Puerto Rico count or would it need to be an actual state?  So one of the tiny islands on Hawaii then?  Reopen Alcatraz?
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« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2016, 03:01:47 PM »

We've been transferring a lot to island nations in the Pacific over the years, like Palau.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jun/10/palau-guantanamo-detainees-housed
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« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2016, 03:13:42 PM »

We've been transferring a lot to island nations in the Pacific over the years, like Palau.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jun/10/palau-guantanamo-detainees-housed

And prison ships
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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2016, 01:54:04 PM »

My guess is no.   I honestly dont grasp  the complaints liberals have with the facility.   (I can imagine, i simply dont hold them myself).   Its expensive, appparently.   A supermax in the us wouldnt be?   There is no tangible evidence to convict people of crimes against the country....  im not cool with letting them go on that basis..   if there are foreign, non uniformed fighters, percieved by the us gov as being so dangerous it is worth 100s k. Dollars per year to detain them, well  i heir or the cautious side and say.  I have no problem with guantanamo.
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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2016, 01:59:16 PM »

There is no tangible evidence to convict people of crimes against the country....  im not cool with letting them go on that basis..

Yeah, screw due process, amirite?
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« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2016, 02:13:28 PM »

Due process is something we provide to people who reside in our country with the permisdion of the government.   Its a perk, so to speak.   Have the gitmo prisoners earned, or deserved via their combat against this country in the battle-field, the same benefit of the doubt we might give to... o.j.  simpson for instance.


FYI, just because i am new... empsthy for terrorists is one of my most illiberal positions.

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