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« Reply #475 on: March 26, 2016, 07:38:36 PM »

I would've thought Clinton would do better in Yakima. There's a decent Latino population there.

Yeah, more Hispanics than non Hispanic whites. I guess they didn't get the message that they weren't supposed to vote Bernie.
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« Reply #476 on: March 26, 2016, 07:41:05 PM »

I know it doesn't have implications for other states, but Sanders obviously won among minorities here in WA. We'll see if he can do it in HI. Wink
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« Reply #477 on: March 26, 2016, 07:41:31 PM »

When will we know Hawaii?
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« Reply #478 on: March 26, 2016, 07:42:24 PM »

I know it doesn't have implications for other states, but Sanders obviously won among minorities here in WA. We'll see if he can do it in HI. Wink

He obviously won them in Alaska too.
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« Reply #479 on: March 26, 2016, 07:42:46 PM »

I know it doesn't have implications for other states, but Sanders obviously won among minorities here in WA. We'll see if he can do it in HI. Wink
It seems Sanders does better with Hispanics in more Liberal States then Hispanics in more Conservative ones, maby good news for Sanders in California.
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« Reply #480 on: March 26, 2016, 07:45:02 PM »

Rules are rules, but I don't think low turnout unrepresentative caucuses are the best thing for the party. I like both of our candidates and I don't mind seeing the race go on (especially because California's top-two system can product nasty results if only Republicans have competitive races, such as CA-31 in 2012), but I really don't believe these kind of margins are representative of the broader Democratic electorate.

I think all states should have primaries. And, I think if Washington Republicans can have a primary for delegates, Democrats should certainly do so as well. I would hope this is something the party can work on for the future once we have our nominee.

Agreed. Caucuses are a relic
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« Reply #481 on: March 26, 2016, 07:46:58 PM »

He's still going to be way down after tonight, but Bernie did a lot better in Washington than he had to in the abstract, which will end up helping him make up for lost ground. It's still a long shot for him, but this margin in Washington is really what will end up keeping him alive through the weekend.
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« Reply #482 on: March 26, 2016, 07:47:54 PM »

I've noticed that 538 isn't covering these contests. Why no love for the Pacific states, Nate? Sad
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« Reply #483 on: March 26, 2016, 07:48:21 PM »

Rules are rules, but I don't think low turnout unrepresentative caucuses are the best thing for the party. I like both of our candidates and I don't mind seeing the race go on (especially because California's top-two system can product nasty results if only Republicans have competitive races, such as CA-31 in 2012), but I really don't believe these kind of margins are representative of the broader Democratic electorate.

I think all states should have primaries. And, I think if Washington Republicans can have a primary for delegates, Democrats should certainly do so as well. I would hope this is something the party can work on for the future once we have our nominee.

Agreed. Caucuses are a relic

For the anti-caucus crowd, if you got your way and caucuses were done away with, would you make an exception for Iowa?  There is a lot of tradition there, and they do a good job managing it.
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« Reply #484 on: March 26, 2016, 07:49:08 PM »

Thurston County 2008: Obama 67.2%
Thurston County 2016: Sanders 77.7%
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« Reply #485 on: March 26, 2016, 07:49:24 PM »

Rules are rules, but I don't think low turnout unrepresentative caucuses are the best thing for the party. I like both of our candidates and I don't mind seeing the race go on (especially because California's top-two system can product nasty results if only Republicans have competitive races, such as CA-31 in 2012), but I really don't believe these kind of margins are representative of the broader Democratic electorate.

I think all states should have primaries. And, I think if Washington Republicans can have a primary for delegates, Democrats should certainly do so as well. I would hope this is something the party can work on for the future once we have our nominee.

Agreed. Caucuses are a relic

For the anti-caucus crowd, if you got your way and caucuses were done away with, would you make an exception for Iowa?  There is a lot of tradition there, and they do a good job managing it.

I would make Iowa the only exception
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« Reply #486 on: March 26, 2016, 07:49:34 PM »

I've noticed that 538 isn't covering these contests. Why no love for the Pacific states, Nate? Sad
538 dislikes Sanders. They think the Dem contest is already over and show more interest in the GOP race because Trump.
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« Reply #487 on: March 26, 2016, 07:49:46 PM »

Rules are rules, but I don't think low turnout unrepresentative caucuses are the best thing for the party. I like both of our candidates and I don't mind seeing the race go on (especially because California's top-two system can product nasty results if only Republicans have competitive races, such as CA-31 in 2012), but I really don't believe these kind of margins are representative of the broader Democratic electorate.

I think all states should have primaries. And, I think if Washington Republicans can have a primary for delegates, Democrats should certainly do so as well. I would hope this is something the party can work on for the future once we have our nominee.

Agreed. Caucuses are a relic

For the anti-caucus crowd, if you got your way and caucuses were done away with, would you make an exception for Iowa?  There is a lot of tradition there, and they do a good job managing it.

No. No exceptions. I've participated in the Iowa caucuses. And though going to the county and district conventions was kind of fun and interesting to a political junkie like m'self, in the end, the terrible starting process is not worth it.
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« Reply #488 on: March 26, 2016, 07:50:40 PM »

Thurston County 2008: Obama 67.2%
Thurston County 2016: Sanders 77.7%
Excellent! Looks like #Sandersover70
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« Reply #489 on: March 26, 2016, 07:50:52 PM »

I've noticed that 538 isn't covering these contests. Why no love for the Pacific states, Nate? Sad
538 dislikes Sanders. They think the Dem contest is already over and show more interest in the GOP race because Trump.

lol. They don't "dislike Sanders", they just accept the reality that the race is over.
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« Reply #490 on: March 26, 2016, 07:51:01 PM »

I know it doesn't have implications for other states, but Sanders obviously won among minorities here in WA. We'll see if he can do it in HI. Wink
It seems Sanders does better with Hispanics in more Liberal States then Hispanics in more Conservative ones, maby good news for Sanders in California.

No, Sanders does better with minorities (and every other voting segment) in caucuses.
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« Reply #491 on: March 26, 2016, 07:54:29 PM »

I've noticed that 538 isn't covering these contests. Why no love for the Pacific states, Nate? Sad
538 dislikes Sanders. They think the Dem contest is already over and show more interest in the GOP race because Trump.

lol. They don't "dislike Sanders", they just accept the reality that the race is over.

lol. Sanders gets landslide victories in Idaho, Utah, Alaska, Washington, with likely victories in Hawaii and Wisconsin.

THE RACE IS OVER, NOTHING TO LOOK AT FOLKS.
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« Reply #492 on: March 26, 2016, 07:55:58 PM »

CNN has Alaska 100% reporting, with Sanders winning 80.7% to 19.3%.
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« Reply #493 on: March 26, 2016, 07:56:20 PM »


CNN said midnight ET before they switched to regular programming.  We've still got about 3 hours until results start coming in there.
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« Reply #494 on: March 26, 2016, 07:56:31 PM »

I've noticed that 538 isn't covering these contests. Why no love for the Pacific states, Nate? Sad

I had that thought too. Perhaps because of March Madness?
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« Reply #495 on: March 26, 2016, 07:57:06 PM »

CNN has Alaska 100% reporting, with Sanders winning 80.7% to 19.3%.
So not one Atlas prediction was right Tongue (nobody has Bernie >80%)
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« Reply #496 on: March 26, 2016, 07:57:18 PM »

I've noticed that 538 isn't covering these contests. Why no love for the Pacific states, Nate? Sad
538 dislikes Sanders. They think the Dem contest is already over and show more interest in the GOP race because Trump.

lol. They don't "dislike Sanders", they just accept the reality that the race is over.

lol. Sanders gets landslide victories in Idaho, Utah, Alaska, Washington, with likely victories in Hawaii and Wisconsin.

THE RACE IS OVER, NOTHING TO LOOK AT FOLKS.

Uh, I meant the overall outcome is already decided.
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« Reply #497 on: March 26, 2016, 07:57:25 PM »

I've noticed that 538 isn't covering these contests. Why no love for the Pacific states, Nate? Sad
538 dislikes Sanders. They think the Dem contest is already over and show more interest in the GOP race because Trump.

lol. They don't "dislike Sanders", they just accept the reality that the race is over.

lol. Sanders gets landslide victories in Idaho, Utah, Alaska, Washington, with likely victories in Hawaii and Wisconsin.

THE RACE IS OVER, NOTHING TO LOOK AT FOLKS.

Clinton won landslide victories in West Virginia, Kentucky, Puerto Rico and upset Obama in Indiana, South Dakota.
Why do people insist the race is over???
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« Reply #498 on: March 26, 2016, 07:57:37 PM »

For the anti-caucus crowd, if you got your way and caucuses were done away with, would you make an exception for Iowa?  There is a lot of tradition there, and they do a good job managing it.

No. No exceptions. I've participated in the Iowa caucuses. And though going to the county and district conventions was kind of fun and interesting to a political junkie like m'self, in the end, the terrible starting process is not worth it.

Not to mention the fact that even though the Iowa caucus was well run it only had a turnout of 15.7% of those eligible to vote. Overall, in 2008, 29% of those eligible across the country voted, so even one of the best run caucuses in the nation couldn't break that very low threshold.
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« Reply #499 on: March 26, 2016, 07:58:41 PM »

I've noticed that 538 isn't covering these contests. Why no love for the Pacific states, Nate? Sad
538 dislikes Sanders. They think the Dem contest is already over and show more interest in the GOP race because Trump.

lol. They don't "dislike Sanders", they just accept the reality that the race is over.

lol. Sanders gets landslide victories in Idaho, Utah, Alaska, Washington, with likely victories in Hawaii and Wisconsin.

THE RACE IS OVER, NOTHING TO LOOK AT FOLKS.

Is it not? After tonight, Hillarys lead dips to 240ish delegates. Which states does Sanders have left where he can make up such a huge delegate difference?
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