Democratic Freak States Holy Saturday results thread (1st caucuses begin @1pmET)

[Lyin' Steve]

I'll be caucusing as well.  Will let y'all know how it goes.

[Lyin' Steve]

I'm at the North Seattle caucus location and the line is seven blocks, well over 1000 people surely.

I heard there's very heavy Bernie presence at city hall

[Lyin' Steve]

So many people.  The gym is so packed that we've overflown

[Lyin' Steve]

My caucus was 3-1 for Bernie.  9% of people were uncommitted for god knows what reason.

I gave a speech for Clinton, but people kept interrupting me to say they couldn't hear even though I was shouting at the top of my lungs.  Oh well, you win some you lose some.

[Lyin' Steve]

I recall Seattle electing a trotskyist for city council about 2 years ago, did she and her activists mobilize for sanders?

Kshama Sawant can go straight to hell

[Lyin' Steve]

Seattle is possibly the most liberal major city in the country, with SF and Portland being its two closest rivals.  We elected a legitimately evil "Trotskyite Socialist" Kshama Sawant to our city council, the far-far-far-far-left newspaper everyone reads, The Stranger, is run almost exclusively by gay communists,  and we have a giant statue of Lenin.  My precinct had a bunch of hippies with dreadlocks and those organic-store purses that are made to look like they were sewn together from patches, and there were a couple millenials in brown jackets standing together with hammer and sickle pins and red star hats.

I don't think Hillary is going to win this one.

Another interesting observation from the caucus:  the main argument the Bernie people had left was that Bernie beats Trump in the polls by more than Hillary, so he is the safe choice.  I think I heard that argument, and mostly a recitation of some poll that apparently had Hillary losing to Trump by a point, about a dozen times and not much else.  All the Bernie speakers had lists of talking points or were reading their speeches off of papers; the Clinton people came unprepared.  Anyway, it seems like an odd argument to make; I don't think anyone, including Team Sanders themselves, actually believes that Sanders is a stronger general election candidate than Hillary, unless they've been stuck in their bubble for too long.

[Lyin' Steve]

So much lol in this.

Lyin' Steve continues to provide his #analysis.

I hope all the Sanders people will cool down after he drops out, it really is getting tiresome just being pelted with stones every time I post about him.  Nobody ever directly responds to what I write, either.

Another observation, lots of old people came to vote, but most of them didn't stick around.  The rooms were packet and suffocatingly hot and loud with chatter and everyone had to stand, I talked to some poor woman who said she had to leave even though she wanted to be a county delegate because she thought she was going to faint.  Doesn't mean much since they had already voted, though.  But by the time the actual caucusing began it was just about all Sanders people left.

[Lyin' Steve]

Someone on twitter is claiming the 98% Sanders thing is a lie.

https://twitter.com/withmeyourheart/status/713826069296451584

1484 is the number of the precinct, they say. The actual result is 28-11. If people would stop lying and posting bad information, we would maybe be able to have reasonable analysis.

I thought NC taught you not to take random stuff Bernie people on Twitter/Reddit say as gospel.

Yeah no way 1484 people live in a single precinct.
Unless... how do they deal with supertall apartment buildings?  If 3000 people live in one block of skyscrapers, do they all vote in one precinct?

[Lyin' Steve]

At this point, the only two people in the history of the modern Democratic Party primary system who did better than Bernie Sanders but didn't win the Democratic nomination were Gary Hart and Hillary '08.

Jackson '88 and Kennedy '80 were both strong as well.

Humphrey '72 is probably never going to be beat, because McGovern stole the nomination from him at the convention.

Also 1968, but once we go back past the 80s it starts to make less sense to talk about there being a democratic primary at all.

[Lyin' Steve]

When the hell are we getting Hawaii results?  I want to go to bed

[Lyin' Steve]

Your couple minutes has just ended. And still no results. Again, this is why:

The Hawaii caucus wasn't actually held. DWS canceled it and did some fake reporting of turnout so no one realizes until a couple days from now. Any protests will be ignored, and a carefully regulated state convention will be held later, where a 100% Hillary delegate slate will be selected for the national convention.

I'm starting to believe you.

She even made up this story to make it seem legit.



https://twitter.com/Parker9_/status/713907623205076993

Yeah, because Clinton precinct captains are going to risk her entire campaign on a highly illegal scheme to get rid of a few votes in a one-sided state that barely effects an election that she's already winning by an insurmountable margin.  Show me the video.