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[Goldwater]

How many of the "principled" conservatives in this thread would have had no problem supporting Bush in 2004?

I'm not sure how the two are equivalent.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

I wouldn't have supported Bush in 2004, just as I would not support Trump in 2016

[Clark Kent]

How many of the "principled" conservatives in this thread would have had no problem supporting Bush in 2004?

George W. Bush is a conservative. trump is not.

[Vosem]

How many of the "principled" conservatives in this thread would have had no problem supporting Bush in 2004?

x Vosem

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

How many of the "principled" conservatives in this thread would have had no problem supporting Bush in 2004?

George W. Bush is a conservative. trump is not.

No.

[This account no longer in use.]

Now we know where the cucks are.

[Vosem]

How many of the "principled" conservatives in this thread would have had no problem supporting Bush in 2004?

George W. Bush is a conservative. trump is not.

No.

I don't think that statement is really even contestable.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

How many of the "principled" conservatives in this thread would have had no problem supporting Bush in 2004?

George W. Bush is a conservative. trump is not.

No.

I don't think that statement is really even contestable.

It very much is.

[RINO Tom]

Dumb.

This.

RFayette's ballot this November:

Hillary Clinton (D) _____
Donald Trump (R) __X__

Hardly surprising considering you proudly stated in another thread that you would have "definitely" voted for STROM THURMOND in 1948, whose entire campaign was based around White supremacy.

[RINO Tom]

It's only "dumb" because Republicans should have realized that the spirit behind Donald Trump's rise is what's been animating the Republican base for years, even if it hadn't completely bubbled to the surface like it's doing now.

Not every registered Republican is responsible for the sins of everyone in the party, and if a Republican has convictions to refuse to support Trump, he or she isn't "dumb" for doing so, and more importantly they aren't "getting what they deserve," or whatever.

[DavidB.]

Now we know where the cucks are.

using this word unironically = back on ignore again

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

It's only "dumb" because Republicans should have realized that the spirit behind Donald Trump's rise is what's been animating the Republican base for years, even if it hadn't completely bubbled to the surface like it's doing now.

Not every registered Republican is responsible for the sins of everyone in the party, and if a Republican has convictions to refuse to support Trump, he or she isn't "dumb" for doing so, and more importantly they aren't "getting what they deserve," or whatever.

If you had "convictions" you wouldn't remain a Republican to begin with if that is how you view the party.

[RINO Tom]

It's only "dumb" because Republicans should have realized that the spirit behind Donald Trump's rise is what's been animating the Republican base for years, even if it hadn't completely bubbled to the surface like it's doing now.

Not every registered Republican is responsible for the sins of everyone in the party, and if a Republican has convictions to refuse to support Trump, he or she isn't "dumb" for doing so, and more importantly they aren't "getting what they deserve," or whatever.

If you had "convictions" you wouldn't remain a Republican to begin with if that is how you view the party.

Huh?  I should change my registration because I don't like the current front runner?  That's ludicrous.

[Goldwater]

It's only "dumb" because Republicans should have realized that the spirit behind Donald Trump's rise is what's been animating the Republican base for years, even if it hadn't completely bubbled to the surface like it's doing now.

Not every registered Republican is responsible for the sins of everyone in the party, and if a Republican has convictions to refuse to support Trump, he or she isn't "dumb" for doing so, and more importantly they aren't "getting what they deserve," or whatever.

If you had "convictions" you wouldn't remain a Republican to begin with if that is how you view the party.

What if somebody doesn't support Trump but votes Republican for other offices? This whole debate about who is or isn't a "True Conservative" or a "RINO" is just silly, since people have varying reasons for voting the way they do and aren't under any obligation to vote fro somebody just becasue of a party label.

[100% pro-life no matter what]

I don't like Trump, but I will vote for him if he is the nominee, because he is far better than Clinton, and the Supreme Court is on the line.

[Vosem]

How many of the "principled" conservatives in this thread would have had no problem supporting Bush in 2004?

George W. Bush is a conservative. trump is not.

No.

I don't think that statement is really even contestable.

It very much is.

OK, contest it. I would say _trump being opportunistic and insincere in his views is pretty much a given (considering his numerous wholesale changes of ideology throughout his life and frequent changes on individual issues throughout the campaign), making him not a conservative, and that Bush at the very least campaigned as a conservative and tried to govern as a conservative -- he was hamstrung by foreign policy being the critical issue of his presidency and therefore made few domestic changes (though I'll notice he successfully cut taxes, expanded school choice, enacted free trade deals, and put Samuel Alito and John Roberts on the Supreme Court, who went on to give us decisions like Heller, McDonald, and Citizens United). Obviously far from perfect, but I think anyone reasonable would struggle to say that he was not conservative.

I don't like Trump, but I will vote for him if he is the nominee, because he is far better than Clinton, and the Supreme Court is on the line.

If we can maintain our hold on the Senate, the Supreme Court really shouldn't be on the line. This is of course a very big if, and another very important reason not to support _trump -- I doubt Cruz will be able to beat Hillary (though he's got a helluva better shot than _trump does), but at least without _trump weighing them down people like Portman, Toomey, and Ayotte will be returned to the Senate.

[100% pro-life no matter what]

How many of the "principled" conservatives in this thread would have had no problem supporting Bush in 2004?

George W. Bush is a conservative. trump is not.

No.

I don't think that statement is really even contestable.

It very much is.

OK, contest it. I would say _trump being opportunistic and insincere in his views is pretty much a given (considering his numerous wholesale changes of ideology throughout his life and frequent changes on individual issues throughout the campaign), making him not a conservative, and that Bush at the very least campaigned as a conservative and tried to govern as a conservative -- he was hamstrung by foreign policy being the critical issue of his presidency and therefore made few domestic changes (though I'll notice he successfully cut taxes, expanded school choice, enacted free trade deals, and put Samuel Alito and John Roberts on the Supreme Court, who went on to give us decisions like Heller, McDonald, and Citizens United). Obviously far from perfect, but I think anyone reasonable would struggle to say that he was not conservative.

I don't like Trump, but I will vote for him if he is the nominee, because he is far better than Clinton, and the Supreme Court is on the line.

If we can maintain our hold on the Senate, the Supreme Court really shouldn't be on the line. This is of course a very big if, and another very important reason not to support _trump -- I doubt Cruz will be able to beat Hillary (though he's got a helluva better shot than _trump does), but at least without _trump weighing them down people like Portman, Toomey, and Ayotte will be returned to the Senate.

I agree with you about opposing Trump for the nomination.  But, if he does beat Cruz and the rest of the field, I will vote for him because he won't be as bad as President Clinton would be.

[RFayette]

Dumb.

This.

RFayette's ballot this November:

Hillary Clinton (D) _____
Donald Trump (R) __X__

Hardly surprising considering you proudly stated in another thread that you would have "definitely" voted for STROM THURMOND in 1948, whose entire campaign was based around White supremacy.

No, it was because he was the most conservative candidate running, and one who I think could have at least delayed the counter-culture of the '60s.  Of course I disagree with him on civil rights.  Plus, he wouldn't have lost China to the reds like Truman (and Dewey probably would have, too).

[Orthogonian Society Treasurer]

As a principled movement conservative, I would rather see President Clinton II erase freedom and speech, abolish the second amendment, and stack the Supreme Court with radical leftists than be looked down upon by my friends at the country club.

x clash

[Kingpoleon]

How many of the "principled" conservatives in this thread would have had no problem supporting Bush in 2004?

I'm not sure how the two are equivalent.

You're right. One was a mass murderer and war criminal, the other is a stupid demagog.

> calls Trump stupid
> misspells demagogue

TN, those angry woman are really getting to you, huh?

[Goldwater]

As a principled movement conservative, I would rather see President Clinton II erase freedom and speech, abolish the second amendment, and stack the Supreme Court with radical leftists than be looked down upon by my friends at the country club.

x clash

Except for the minor little detail that Hillary will do none of those things.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

As a principled movement conservative, I would rather see President Clinton II erase freedom and speech, abolish the second amendment, and stack the Supreme Court with radical leftists than be looked down upon by my friends at the country club.

x clash

Except for the minor little detail that Hillary will do none of those things.

I've heard Hillary HATES ethics in video game journalism

[SATW]

I'm a member of the #NeverTrump Movement, but I have not committed, officially, to not supporting Trump in the general.

I will not commit at this time to vote for Trump or to not vote for Trump. I will however say I will NOT support Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders.

[Clark Kent]

I trust Mrs. Clinton and trump as far as I can throw them. I assume that Mrs. Clinton is lighter, so I can throw her farther.

[Classic Conservative]

I'm a member of the #NeverTrump Movement, but I have not committed, officially, to not supporting Trump in the general.

I will not commit at this time to vote for Trump or to not vote for Trump. I will however say I will NOT support Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders.