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« on: March 26, 2016, 09:24:08 PM »
« edited: March 27, 2016, 03:40:03 AM by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ »

Just 5 days ago, they were Bernie's 2nd best state. Now they've been demoted to 7th place. Here's the top 7

Vermont 86.1%
Alaska 81.6%
Utah 79.3%
Idaho 78.1%
Washington 72.7%
Hawaii currently 70.6%
Kansas 67.7%
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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2016, 09:33:43 PM »

White people sure do love Sanders.
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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2016, 09:36:19 PM »


White Democrats.  Overall black and brown people probably like Sanders better than the general white population does.
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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2016, 09:37:34 PM »


Alaska is only 62% non Hispanic white.
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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2016, 09:38:35 PM »


Im sure most caucus goes in Alaska tonight were lily white.
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« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2016, 09:39:51 PM »


Im sure most caucus goes in Alaska tonight were lily white.
Maybe but the overwhelmingly non-white bush areas went 80% Sanders.
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« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2016, 09:40:13 PM »


Im sure most caucus goes in Alaska tonight were lily white.

He must have won minorities to get 81% of the vote.
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« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2016, 09:41:38 PM »

I bet in Alaska even the Democrats really love their guns, too.  That might be playing into it.
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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2016, 10:15:59 PM »

And they got eliminated from the NCAA tournament today. Goodbye, Selfish Bill!
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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2016, 10:21:35 PM »

I feel worse for NH. It was supposed to be his second-best state. Now it's in 9th place.
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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2016, 10:22:51 PM »

Embarrassing race-politicking from the Hillbots ITT. 
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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2016, 10:23:52 PM »

I feel worse for NH. It was supposed to be his second-best state. Now it's in 9th place.

It might stay as his second best primary.
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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2016, 10:40:05 PM »


Im sure most caucus goes in Alaska tonight were lily white.

He must have won minorities to get 81% of the vote.

Looks like he did at least as well in the Native majority areas as he did in the state as a whole.
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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2016, 10:40:48 PM »

I feel worse for NH. It was supposed to be his second-best state. Now it's in 9th place.

It might stay as his second best primary.
He might do better in MT, ND (if it's a primary), OR, WV. I think he'll win by 22+ points in at least one.
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« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2016, 10:41:41 PM »

I feel worse for NH. It was supposed to be his second-best state. Now it's in 9th place.

It might stay as his second best primary.

Might is the word - WV is surely gonna beat the number in a couple of weeks & a couple of other states will!
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« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2016, 10:49:55 PM »

I feel worse for NH. It was supposed to be his second-best state. Now it's in 9th place.

It might stay as his second best primary.

Based on how he overperformed Obama in WA, I wouldn't be surprised if he does better in OR than in NH.
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« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2016, 10:51:12 PM »

I feel worse for NH. It was supposed to be his second-best state. Now it's in 9th place.

It might stay as his second best primary.

Based on how he overperformed Obama in WA, I wouldn't be surprised if he does better in OR than in NH.

It's possible, but remember OR is closed. I think it'll be close to NH.
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« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2016, 11:06:48 PM »


Im sure most caucus goes in Alaska tonight were lily white.

Too many Natives in Alaska for that.
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« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2016, 11:17:49 PM »

I feel worse for NH. It was supposed to be his second-best state. Now it's in 9th place.

It might stay as his second best primary.

Based on how he overperformed Obama in WA, I wouldn't be surprised if he does better in OR than in NH.

It's possible, but remember OR is closed. I think it'll be close to NH.

Right, he won't crack 70%, but considering Obama won 59-41 in 2008, I think Sanders could get 61-63%.
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« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2016, 11:40:02 PM »

I feel worse for NH. It was supposed to be his second-best state. Now it's in 9th place.

It might stay as his second best primary.

Based on how he overperformed Obama in WA, I wouldn't be surprised if he does better in OR than in NH.

It's possible, but remember OR is closed. I think it'll be close to NH.

Right, he won't crack 70%, but considering Obama won 59-41 in 2008, I think Sanders could get 61-63%.

The parts near Oregon were his best - He did like 75-80% in most areas comfortably. There is still time. I see no reason for him not to crack the 60% even if it is closed. If it was open, I would say he would have done 70-75% confidently.
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« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2016, 01:31:08 AM »
« Edited: March 27, 2016, 03:29:23 AM by Grad Students are the Worst »


Im sure most caucus goes in Alaska tonight were lily white.

Too many Natives in Alaska for that.

Caucus turnout dynamics are awful.  If there's not good organization in the Native areas (not a surprise), it's possible that almost no one could turnout.  You'll notice this pattern in states like Idaho: there are clearly some areas with nearly zero Democratic organization, and those places had godawful turn out versus (already modest) Obama vote totals.  Native areas may have that problem even worse.
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« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2016, 01:40:01 AM »


Im sure most caucus goes in Alaska tonight were lily white.

Too many Natives in Alaska for that.

Caucus turnout dynamics are awful.  If there's not good organization in the Native areas (not a surprise), it's possible that almost no one could turnout.  You'll notice this pattern in states like Idaho: there are clearly some areas with nearly zero Democratic organization, and those places had godawful turnout versus (already modest) Obama vote totals.  Native areas may have that problem even worse.

Alaska has precinct delegates, and the number of precinct delegates are the same regardless of turnout, and Bernie got around the same 80% in areas with a high native population.
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« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2016, 01:46:58 AM »



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« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2016, 03:40:22 AM »

Well, that didn't last long, it looks like Hawaii probably dropped them to 7th place.
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« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2016, 03:43:11 AM »


Im sure most caucus goes in Alaska tonight were lily white.

Too many Natives in Alaska for that.

Caucus turnout dynamics are awful.  If there's not good organization in the Native areas (not a surprise), it's possible that almost no one could turnout.  You'll notice this pattern in states like Idaho: there are clearly some areas with nearly zero Democratic organization, and those places had godawful turnout versus (already modest) Obama vote totals.  Native areas may have that problem even worse.

Alaska has precinct delegates, and the number of precinct delegates are the same regardless of turnout, and Bernie got around the same 80% in areas with a high native population.

I know.  I'm only warning those caucus areas may be extremely low turnout or, where that's plausible, have a way disproportionate share of white voters.  I'm not saying I think Sanders probably lost Native voters -- that can't be inferred from the data.  I'm just saying be careful with the confidence of the inference.

On the other hand, it's pretty damn obvious that Sanders must have done at least decently with non-whites in Hawai'i.
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