Erdogan summons German envoy over satirical video

[DavidB.]

Our favorite Turkish dictator is at it again: he does not like a satirical video by extra 3, a program made by the German public broadcaster NDR. Therefore, he will formally declare protest and summon the German envoy in Ankara.

The video, based on Nena and Kim Wilde's hit song "Irgendwie, Irgendwo, Irgendwann" (in English known as "Anyplace, Anywhere, Anytime"), is called "Erdowie, Erdowo, Erdogan" and mocks the lack of press freedom in Turkey, Erdogan's huge palace, the fact that Erdogan prefers to bomb the Kurds instead of his "brothers in faith" of ISIS, and the deal with the EU regarding refugees and negotiations for EU accession.

Perhaps hilarious, but very disturbing that the Turkish regime now seeks to curb the press freedom outside Turkey too.

[Cranberry]

Oh my, this video is hilarious

[Hnv1]

I hope he tells him to stick it up his...

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Evidence for my 'brain tumour' theory grows by the day!

[dead0man]

It's always good to see the Streisand effect at play.  Wait, that stupid "right to be forgotten" law some of you have isn't going to come into play here is it?

[Simfan34]

Evidence for my 'brain tumour' theory grows by the day!

Maybe he was just always like this?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Yeah, Turkey has been down a very dangerous path lately.

[President Johnson]

Amazing video, Erdogan is a complete fool. But our (German) leaders are weak. They didn't response at all.

[DavidB.]

Amazing video, Erdogan is a complete fool. But our (German) leaders are weak. They didn't response at all.

Amazing how both Erdogan and the German leadership try to prove the video right, isn't it?

In the lmao department: after Erdogan's complaint, extra 3 published a version of the video with Turkish subtitles. Not sure if YouTube is accessible in Turkey at the moment, though...

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

When you see how a French Président can be disconnected from reality, then those exotic guys like him or Putin are just victims of their 'testosneronned regimes'...

[SATW]

Lol. erdogan.

[ingemann]

Amazing video, Erdogan is a complete fool. But our (German) leaders are weak. They didn't response at all.

Why should they?

Yes I know we all want our leaders react properly when the barbarians get uppity (no sarcasm). But we're better off with them not saying anything and take revenge in more subtle ways or sometimes in less subtle ways but when the opportunity is there (which was how Ghadaffy ended up sodomised with knives before someone shot him).

[Hnv1]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/15/angela-merkel-agrees-prosecution-comedian-erdogan-poem?CMP=fb_gu

My dislike of Merkel grows stronger

[dead0man]

Gross.  But (most) Europeans don't really understand freedom, so this shouldn't surprise anybody.

[Hifly]

Invoking bestiality and paedophilia is very clearly unacceptable, regardless of whether it's directed towards a citizen or foreign dignitary. It's filth and slander, and the man should be prosecuted, as he will be. No police protection is deserved.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Evidence for my 'brain tumour' theory grows by the day!

To get a brain tumor one need to have a brain in the first place.

[palandio]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/15/angela-merkel-agrees-prosecution-comedian-erdogan-poem?CMP=fb_gu

My dislike of Merkel grows stronger

Gross.  But (most) Europeans don't really understand freedom, so this shouldn't surprise anybody.

Actually I find it normal that Erdogan can sue Boehmermann for defamation. Let the courts decide whether what Boehmermann said on the show is libellous or not.

What I find problematic is that there is an extra paragraph (the so-called Shah paragraph) for defamation of a foreign head of state, that allows for higher sentences. Legal prosecution according to this paragraph requires the agreement of the government. (Legal prosecution according to the ordinary defamation paragraph does not require this.) I find this paragraph antiquated, why should foreign heads of state have privilegues? The government should not have agreed to legal prosecution according to the Shah paragraph. Erdogan has already requested legal prosecution according to the normal paragraph, that should be enough.

Invoking bestiality and paedophilia is very clearly unacceptable, regardless of whether it's directed towards a citizen or foreign dignitary. It's filth and slander, and the man should be prosecuted, as he will be. No police protection is deserved.

If you would have watched or read what Boehmerman said before and after the poem, he actually said something like "You must not say 'Erdogan is a pedophile, zoophile, etc.'". Of course you might say that this was a cheap trick so that Boehmermann could insult Erdogan and maybe it was.

Apart from that I have often read things like "That's not anymore satire, that's only filth and slander of the lowest immaginable level". Yes, of course, otherwise it would not have served its purpose. Boehmermann wanted to say something like "You feel insulted by the fact-based, satirical Extra3 song? I'll show you what a real insult is!" The way he did it was the best way to get his message heard.

Finally I find that many Germans when judging satire exhibit a very "conservative" concept of art, that ignores the fact that the artist interacts with his environment. Art doesn't take place in an empty space. It may provoke people. It may provoke reactions. It may provoke further developments, some of them calculated, some unpredicted. By this the work of art gets a higher relevance, the provoked developments become a part of the work, or the other way round, the work becomes only the first piece in a greater work.

[Tender Branson]

Böhmermann = Germany's Tender Branson

Much like our Forum fascists on here and their aiders and abettors who took my posts 100% (!) seriously, now the Islamo-Fascist Erdogan and his aiders and abettors in Germany are doing the same to Böhmermann.

Disgusting.

[palandio]

politically correct, naive left-leftists

We are at the start of an invasion.

Don't worry, they [politicians] are seeing it. But they are leading Europe into the abyss with their eyes wide open. In their quest to transform Europe into an impoverished wasteland like Syria and Africa ...

Don't worry, "Mhysa Merkel" will fix all of these problems ...

That was ironic? Or do I somehow not get your point here?

[Tender Branson]

No, the statements above were absolutely correct.

I was talking about my comment to the Negusa guy about "flying over the Atlantic and punching his fu**ing face" - which was taken really seriously by the usual suspects on here and which even led Merkel Dave to de-mod me because of it.

[Antonio the Sixth]

This is disgusting. Merkel should be forced to resign in shame for that.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Technically, there's a paragraph in Poland (originating, unsurprisingly, from the Brezhnev era due to dissidents) that makes it a felony to insult a foreign head of state. Was used to prosecute Jerzy Urban for "insulting John Paul II". Hell, if I were to prosecuted every time I insult a foreign leader, I'd never get out of prison.

Now I see we're not the only ones with that retarded laws.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Btw, I wonder if Erdogan is going to summon Dave over some comments in this thread.

[MaxQue]

This is disgusting. Merkel should be forced to resign in shame for that.

I'm more concerned by SDP being their usual doormat.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

I wonder when the AKP will start to freeze out Erdogan? He's really a liability at this stage.